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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:56 PM
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Tom Frank: "Rooseveltian stemwinder" or push from "much-vilified bloggers"
'New Democrats' Rendezvous With Oblivion

by Thomas Frank
Published on Friday, September 1, 2006 by the New York Times
Thomas Frank, a guest columnist, is the author, most recently, of “What’s the Matter With Kansas?’’
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0901-21.htm


 
Over the last month I have tried to describe conservative power in Washington, but with a small change of emphasis I could just as well have been describing the failure of liberalism: the center-left’s inability to comprehend the current political situation or to draw upon what is most vital in its own history. What we have watched unfold for a few decades, I have argued, is a broad reversion to 19th-century political form, with free-market economics understood as the state of nature, plutocracy as the default social condition, and, enthroned as the nation’s necessary vice, an institutionalized corruption surpassing anything we have seen for 80 years. All that is missing is a return to the gold standard and a war to Christianize the Philippines.

Historically, liberalism was a fighting response to precisely these conditions. Look through the foundational texts of American liberalism and you can find everything you need to derail the conservative juggernaut. But don’t expect liberal leaders in Washington to use those things. They are “New Democrats” now, enlightened and entrepreneurial and barely able to get out of bed in the morning, let alone muster the strength to deliver some Rooseveltian stemwinder against “economic royalists.”

Mounting a campaign against plutocracy makes as much sense to the typical Washington liberal as would circulating a petition against gravity. What our modernized liberal leaders offer — that is, when they’re not gushing about the glory of it all at Davos — is not confrontation but a kind of therapy for those flattened by the free-market hurricane: they counsel us to accept the inevitability of the situation and to try to understand how we might retrain or re-educate ourselves so we will fit in better next time. This last point was a priority for the Clinton administration. But in “The Disposable American,” a disturbing history of job security, Louis Uchitelle points out that the New Democrats’ emphasis on retraining (as opposed to broader solutions that Old Democrats used to favor) is merely a kinder version of the 19th-century view of unemployment, in which economic dislocation always boils down to the fitness of the unemployed person himself.

<snip>

Everything I have written about in this space points to the same conclusion: Democratic leaders must learn to talk about class issues again. But they won’t on their own. So pressure must come from traditional liberal constituencies and the grass roots, like the much-vilified bloggers. Liberalism also needs strong, well-funded institutions fighting the rhetorical battle. Laying out policy objectives is all well and good, but the reason the right has prevailed is its army of journalists and public intellectuals. Moving the economic debate to the right are dozens if not hundreds of well-funded Washington think tanks, lobbying outfits and news media outlets. Pushing the other way are perhaps 10.

The more comfortable option for Democrats is to maintain their present course, gaming out each election with political science and a little triangulation magic, their relevance slowly ebbing as memories of the middle-class republic fade.


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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:02 PM
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1. Or, in other words...
A message to Democratic leaders: :spank:

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:12 PM
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3. &"traditional liberal constituencies, grass roots, much-vilified bloggers"
....and "strong, well-funded institutions fighting the rhetorical battle" that Frank calls on to apply pressure because "(Dem leaders) won't come on their own."


"Democratic leaders must learn to talk about class issues again. But they won’t on their own. So pressure must come from traditional liberal constituencies and the grass roots, like the much-vilified bloggers. Liberalism also needs strong, well-funded institutions fighting the rhetorical battle. Laying out policy objectives is all well and good, but the reason the right has prevailed is its army of journalists and public intellectuals. Moving the economic debate to the right are dozens if not hundreds of well-funded Washington think tanks, lobbying outfits and news media outlets. Pushing the other way are perhaps 10."

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:11 PM
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2. Exactamundo! --
Everything I have written about in this space points to the same conclusion: Democratic leaders must learn to talk about class issues again. But they won’t on their own. So pressure must come from traditional liberal constituencies and the grass roots, like the much-vilified bloggers. Liberalism also needs strong, well-funded institutions fighting the rhetorical battle. Laying out policy objectives is all well and good, but the reason the right has prevailed is its army of journalists and public intellectuals. Moving the economic debate to the right are dozens if not hundreds of well-funded Washington think tanks, lobbying outfits and news media outlets. Pushing the other way are perhaps 10.

The more comfortable option for Democrats is to maintain their present course, gaming out each election with political science and a little triangulation magic, their relevance slowly ebbing as memories of the middle-class republic fade.


How sweet it is! This is what I've been saying for ages!

TC
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:18 PM
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4. How do you deal with the misguided middle class & Democratic
identification more with the MegaSuperRich Class that is destroying the middle class, than with the "working class" as in the past?
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:29 PM
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12. The Democrats need to learn the fine art of branding
Killing the estate tax is a Paris Hilton tax break...

George Bush was a benificiary of affirmative action for the rich..being a legacy admit to Andover Academy and Yale.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:42 PM
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5. Liberalism needs strong wellfunded institutions fighting rhetorical battle
"Liberalism also needs strong, well-funded institutions fighting the rhetorical battle. Laying out policy objectives is all well and good, but the reason the right has prevailed is its army of journalists and public intellectuals"

"Its army of journalists and public intellectuals" :wtf: :wow:

Where are our :think: tanks? :bounce:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 07:48 PM
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6. Hello..... anyone know where our think tanks are?
:hi:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:00 PM
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OK-Kick.
& the R bit too.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:00 PM
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8. OK-Kick.
& the R bit too.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:21 PM
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11. Thanks JP Thanks JP
:hi: :hi:

Threads that suggest we DO something often need help getting going :evilgrin:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:05 AM
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22. You're welcome. You're welcome.
It's amazing. Sometimes I post (what I think are) serious, thoughtful comments & maybe 2 people respond. Other times I post some silly fluffery & get 60 replies.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 08:58 PM
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7. Right on. This guy should lead the party
He gets it.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:18 PM
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9. Have you read his books or The Baffler?
"Look through the foundational texts of American liberalism and you can find everything you need to derail the conservative juggernaut."
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:50 PM
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13. Info on Thomas Frank and The Baffler
http://www.tcfrank.com/

http://www.thebaffler.com/index.html

Next Issue

What a difference a few years make. It wasn’t so long ago that Americans thought they had learned a hard lesson about “irrational exuberance.” But on the party went. Expensive adventures abroad, a Ponzi economy at home, the largest asset bubble in human history … all topped off with a massive transfer of national wealth to you-know-who. Feeling nervous yet? We’re going to have fun paying for this.

In this issue, Tom Frank demands to know what’s so essential about peace, love and bipartisanship. Tom Geoghegan explains why we’re all screwed, legally speaking. Kim Phillips-Fein examines poker mania, and unearths clues to lumpen America’s dashed aspirations. Steve Evans reveals why American poetry is now run by Midwestern ad men dreaming of corncribs and the big Nebraska sky. Andrew O’Hagan ponders the last days of an American literary giant. Catherine Liu tells you why the debt-driven, service-oriented urbanity of your funky downtown isn’t such a good thing for you. And The Baffler propositions jerkwater burgs across America, “Give us a home.”

Yeah, pretty much the most upbeat thing about this issue is the cover art.

The Baffler P.O. Box 378293 Chicago, IL 60637

Baffler Issue No. 16

Many commentators have remarked that the United States is a nation of rank buffoons. Few, however, have carefully measured our nation's recent and steep tumble into idiocy, much less attempted a unified theory to explain it. In its sixteenth issue, "Nascar, How Proud a Sound," The Baffler reveals the shocking breadth of American ignorance, and argues that the nation's mental and moral decline-like that of the Roman Empire-is spreading from the better classes downward. In this highly readable issue, Tom Frank gets to the root of Ann Coulter's mental infirmity. Nick Cohen examines Britain's outbreak of millennial lunacy. Paul Maliszewski details the delusional narcissism of "the creative class" and its theorist, Richard Florida. Jamie Kalven chronicles Mayor Daley's Neronian cruelty to the poor of Chicago. Dubravka Ugresic fondly remembers the gentler days of Socialist Realism. Also included are clever and biting musings on an array of cultural products by the likes of Jim Arndorfer, Ana Marie Cox, Dan Kelly, and Dan Raeburn. Plus fiction by Laurie Weeks and the "Wal-Mart Epigrams" of poet Bernadette Mayer.



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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:08 PM
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15. I'm going to check out The Baffler....
NASCAR: How Proud a Sound....lol! I have long thought that NASCAR hypnotizes spectators. And the fumes must kill brain cells thousands/second.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:22 PM
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17. Great writing and funny too
:thumbsup:
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:18 PM
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10. If we had guys like this running the Dems
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 09:19 PM by booley
...the republicans would be out of office already.

In fact, why isn't this on the home page already?!

Kick Kick KICK!



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MysteryToMyself Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:52 PM
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14. Exactly
To solve a problem, you have to see the problem.

The New Democrats see nothing wrong with an America of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations.

Where we can we need to replace the DLC with Democrats that will fight for the workers and middle class programs. Where we can't replace them, we need to lean hard on the DINOs.

We have always been beholden to businesses and the wealthy for jobs, but the Democrats didn't let us be taken advantage of.

We have lost a Senator from assassination by Sir han Sir han and we didn't attack foreign country after country for it.

I read posts written on here in May of last year and there were DINO enablers saying that most of the country is happy the way things are going. Unbelievable.



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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:10 PM
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16. The United States of Corporations.....nt
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 11:02 PM
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18. Could he hold a seminar for our Dem leaders?
They could use him!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:36 AM
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19. He is part of "pushing the other way"
"Laying out policy objectives is all well and good, but the reason the right has prevailed is its army of journalists and public intellectuals. Moving the economic debate to the right are dozens if not hundreds of well-funded Washington think tanks, lobbying outfits and news media outlets. Pushing the other way are perhaps 10."

He suggests that OUR "army of journalists and public intellectuals" can "move the economic debate" to the left..............

Where is our "army of journalists and public intellectuals," our think tanks?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 01:39 AM
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20. There are a "few" Democrats who will talk about the Class War!
You can join them here:
http://www.pdamerica.org/

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.




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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 01:56 AM
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21. He's described it perfectly
Edited on Sun Sep-03-06 01:58 AM by Armstead
For 30 years I have been increasingly frustrated listening to Complacent Democratic Assholes who are trying to turn the Democratic Party into GOP Jr.

Fuck their complacency and acceptance of the unacceptable.

It's always at least comforting to hear my private frustrations being expressed so clearly and cogently in public by people like Frank.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:42 PM
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23. Several Assorted Opinions on This
Various opinions on this thing, both pro and con: First of all, I am sick of the silly opinion that "only Thomas Frank," or "only Thomas Frank and one or two others" understand this thing. This then dislocates the issue so that it is not people thinking about the problems, but everyone, like fans, praising "their leader." Get out into the real world, ESPECIALLY among us "sheeple/inferiors" of the Midwest, and hear the populist, anti-corporate statements, that we have been saying for generations, that you claim we do not...because you don't listen.

More importantly, I'm tired of the "I control you psychologically by 'framing' " attitude, that is too lazy to read about the issues and actually learn anything specific--(because of course, their consciousness towers above all and encompasses it by reaching into the very wellsprings of reality and thought, and affecting your very unconscious itself, dont'cha know)--and who then give the most egregiously ignorant "explanations" of things, and why they are. There are only two groups left that think Karl Rove, or George Bush, are "brilliant" or even intelligent--the ass-kissing corporate media, and the "framing" types. No matter how hated these two, and their whole Republican Party, become, these two groups, alone now, tell us slogans and phrases from the neo-cons, and marvel at how "wonderful" they are--as Bush's, Cheney's, the Republican Party's, approval ratings sink right into the sea. "Framing" types also never give the correct explanations for why anything is happening. As to why, up until now, the Republican Congress has voted lock-step, even when they didn't want to, the "framing" ilk tells us how "wonderfully disciplined" and "organized" they are--and always, always, that "we should be like Republicans"--when the actual reason for this behavior is that the Republican leadership changed the rules governing the way committees in Congress appoint the Chair of the committee. No longer earned by seniority, the Chair is now appointed by the Party leadership, (DeLay until now, for Christ's sake!), who punished severely anyone who did not tow the Party line, pool the money, keep quiet, vote as they were ordered, etc., etc. "Framing" types still tell you Republicans have their fingers on the pulse of--God help us, you call it that--"the Heartland," and this is "why they win." Are you completely ignoring the issue of the voting machines? I for one do not believe Bush won either election; we know Gore won, and the more that comes out about Ohio, the more it adds up to hundreds of thousands of lost Kerry votes. It seems WE have our pulse on what the American people want.

The Clinton type "D"LC pseudo-"Democrats" lost the Congress and further elections because they stabbed the American people in the back, with NAFTA, GATT, no National health care after promising it, no regulation of corporations, etc., etc., and not because they didn't have good slogans or because the country "is getting more conservative," which it is not. They also lost because of Clinton's personal selfish immorality, and the more the "liberal" males make "blow job" "cheating is okay" "jokes," the worse they make it all.

A few words about the great Roosevelt, with my hope that Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt will become the teachers of all in Government again, and the standard for how to do things: One of the typical ways that "the enemy" discredts the New Deal programs is by pretending that Roosevelt "didn't really do anything," but just pepped up and cheer-led the country while the capitalists, the "real source of good," "ended the Depression by just being themselves." This vicious lie, perpetrated by corporate propagandists, is then advanced by "framing" types, who are so ignorant that they do not even know what they advance. I cannot go over all the wonderful programs and departments that the New Deal had to help people, how it ended the Depression until Republican/corporate assaults on these programs during the late '30s returned higher unemployment and poverty figures, how Roosevelt won a few more battles, instituted new public works programs at the end of the '30s, ended the recession of the time, etc., etc., but I know that it is general ignorance and "D"LC anti-Roosevelt lies that have helped to ruin the reputation and memory of the great Roosevelt and the New Deal, as much as it was the original Republican devil who started the lie.

Roosevelt did not save the Nation by brain-dead "cheerleading" but by brilliant and economically sound programs, getting money to the unemployed, creating jobs programs, helping with personal debt, etc. The Fireside Chats often referred to, were not "happy talk," but explanations of upcoming programs, letting the American people know what their Government was doing about things. The very first line of the first Fireside Chat, about Roosevelt's new banking reforms, so people would not lose all their savings when banks failed, began this way: "I want to tell you what has been done in the last few days, why it was done, and what the next steps are going to be." Roosevelt then explained how banking works, what the disaster is, and how it will now end--and it did. Banks, now Federally-insured, do not fail. Quick quiz: What is the C.C.C., why was it so wonderful (list many reasons), and why would it help today? Also, what two problems did Roosevelt's farm subsidies to families solved, (for example)? What--where did the "framing" types go?...

My parents were of that New Deal generation, and I remember, and can feel, what they thought about things, how they hated Republicans--Roosevelt called Wall Street bankers and stockbrokers "crooks," because they are, and my parents knew that too--and how they loved this country and knew what kinds of programs it deserved. The older I get, the more I think that the most important thing that Democrats should be doing is to get rid of the "D"LC corporate slogans and "image," and re-educate people about Roosevelt and the New Deal--and what it REALLY was. If it slips away, we are all slaves. Once upon a time, the premises of New Deal programs were commonsense and commonly held--poor people need help, corporations need to be regulated, corporations that price-gouge or underpay employees are traitors--but all these ordinary opinions were attacked, laughed at, and discarded, not only by extremist Republicans, but by the corporate "They are too liberal for Amercia" "D"LC! When "your own" group attacks you, then who will set the record straight? You are doomed. The "D"LC helped to begin this horrific and totally anti-intellectual era of "characterizing" everything--liberal?, or conservative? whaddaya think: is it liberal? is that more liberal? conservative?, is this part of the country liberal?--incessantly, which nobody used to do. With the arrival of the corporate "D"LC, giving us the Republican Party's slogans themselves, there was nowhere for the New Deal mindset to go, and it was killed. Oddly, they made the mainstram New Deal thought sound "extreme" and "fringe," and so since it had no advocates in the public square anymore, it itself became disconnected from the apparent "way of things," and did not fit--deliberately. None of these traitors even uses the word "commercial" anymore; now they ALL use "private," which is a very threatening word. Clinton never had a program to help the poor; only: 1) cut them off; 2) deregulate; 3) you can give to charity, or volunteer--with what money, I don't know. This type does not even think of government as the source of democracy anymore, and so, it isn't. If people do not learn about the New Deal and how it worked, then any lie will work.

"Framing" types sound like assholes when they do not understand how issues work and what people's problems are, yet give us ultra-groovy catchphrases we are supposed to be impressed, and "controlled" by. It is really insulting, and noticed as such. It is not "clever," "brilliant," blah--it only works because people are civically ignorant, and so tricked, and because the rules and procedures of Congress were changed, allowing totalitarian rule, not "popular." The corporations that pay for elections and candidates are running things now. You have a crisis to deal with, not a TV commercial. Well, the issue goes on and on, but this is part of it. Learn your history--just don't now hold a "revolutionary 'framers' and bloggers" converntion at the Hyatt-Regency, the way they do, where only they can attend.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 07:20 PM
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24. All of this needs to be pushed up through the grass roots
...it won't come from top down. That's why your first point is SO important.

"First of all, I am sick of the silly opinion that "only Thomas Frank," or "only Thomas Frank and one or two others" understand this thing. This then dislocates the issue so that it is not people thinking about the problems, but everyone, like fans, praising "their leader." Get out into the real world, ESPECIALLY among us "sheeple/inferiors" of the Midwest, and hear the populist, anti-corporate statements, that we have been saying for generations, that you claim we do not...because you don't listen."

Every time that someone stands up and says "you can do this"-- INSTANT HERO!! and the point gets mostly lost. Thom Hartmann has a tag line to end his show "Democracy begins with you. Tag-- you're it!"

Tom Frank probably has a healthy ego-- I doubt he wants to be a '"hero" celebrity himself. He's spent his career working to inspire and motivate people to get the populist concept. Here he is calling for liberal think tanks and a competing "army of journalists" to combat Rovepublican evil. If you get a chance, check out The Baffler (links above). I think you'd like it. I'm glad Frank is still publishing it. Throughout the 90's til now, The Baffler has been full of essays, artwork, humor, personal tales and editorials that get at the heart of all these issues-- bullshit free!! Top quality. Highly recommended.

On a forum like DU that last bit needs to be emphasized more too. "Get out into the real world, ESPECIALLY among us "sheeple/inferiors" of the Midwest, and hear the populist, anti-corporate statements, that we have been saying for generations, that you claim we do not...because you don't listen."

I've yelled about this on DU-- and I know there are more voices here that lurk that we need to hear from. Not the phonies who wear ignorance like a badge of honor-- the real people with life stories and insights that would convince (honest) Democratic leaders and some of the (how-you-say) more protected/conventional DUers that the "sheeple" already know corporations run everything and they better start dealing with it (instead of treat it as too "radical" for polite company).

That misconception leads to apt comments on "framing" which is IMHO, as you know, dependent on that condescencion built into the language that will backfire cuz it don't pass the sniff test. As you say:

"More importantly, I'm tired of the "I control you psychologically by 'framing' " attitude, that is too lazy to read about the issues and actually learn anything specific--(because of course, their consciousness towers above all and encompasses it by reaching into the very wellsprings of reality and thought, and affecting your very unconscious itself, dont'cha know)--and who then give the most egregiously ignorant "explanations" of things, and why they are."

This should be common knowledge and would fit in with an approach based in reality rather than "branding."

"As to why, up until now, the Republican Congress has voted lock-step, even when they didn't want to, the "framing" ilk tells us how "wonderfully disciplined" and "organized" they are--and always, always, that "we should be like Republicans"--when the actual reason for this behavior is that the Republican leadership changed the rules governing the way committees in Congress appoint the Chair of the committee. No longer earned by seniority, the Chair is now appointed by the Party leadership, (DeLay until now, for Christ's sake!), who punished severely anyone who did not tow the Party line, pool the money, keep quiet, vote as they were ordered, etc., etc."

This would be relevant to a reality based approach:

"I for one do not believe Bush won either election; we know Gore won, and the more that comes out about Ohio, the more it adds up to hundreds of thousands of lost Kerry votes. It seems WE have our pulse on what the American people want."

The thing I hate most about framing and the whole "sheeple" thing is that people base their assumptions on everybody ELSE being the sucker or the dupe. How arrogant is that? If we all think everyone else is the asshole, who's left? :wow:

"The Clinton type "D"LC pseudo-"Democrats" lost the Congress and further elections because they stabbed the American people in the back, with NAFTA, GATT, no National health care after promising it, no regulation of corporations, etc., etc., and not because they didn't have good slogans or because the country "is getting more conservative," which it is not."

That's a big part of why some people chose not to vote for Gore, too. The obscenely, violently vicious non-discussions on DU about that election refuse to recognize that important point. Is that supposed to help the Dem corporatists continue to (not) draw votes?

Thank you for the Roosevelt comments. They want to rub out his memory entirely (see the "Reagan dime") Did you know that they dedicated a national memorial to FDR on the same day that Clinton's "End Welfare As We Know It" bill was signed?

"Roosevelt did not save the Nation by brain-dead "cheerleading" but by brilliant and economically sound programs, getting money to the unemployed, creating jobs programs, helping with personal debt, etc. The Fireside Chats often referred to, were not "happy talk," but explanations of upcoming programs, letting the American people know what their Government was doing about things. The very first line of the first Fireside Chat, about Roosevelt's new banking reforms, so people would not lose all their savings when banks failed, began this way: "I want to tell you what has been done in the last few days, why it was done, and what the next steps are going to be.""

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"The older I get, the more I think that the most important thing that Democrats should be doing is to get rid of the "D"LC corporate slogans and "image," and re-educate people about Roosevelt and the New Deal--and what it REALLY was. If it slips away, we are all slaves. Once upon a time, the premises of New Deal programs were commonsense and commonly held--poor people need help, corporations need to be regulated, corporations that price-gouge or underpay employees are traitors--but all these ordinary opinions were attacked, laughed at, and discarded, not only by extremist Republicans, but by the corporate "They are too liberal for Amercia" "D"LC!"

<>

"Framing" types sound like assholes when they do not understand how issues work and what people's problems are, yet give us ultra-groovy catchphrases we are supposed to be impressed, and "controlled" by. It is really insulting, and noticed as such. It is not "clever," "brilliant," blah--it only works because people are civically ignorant, and so tricked, and because the rules and procedures of Congress were changed, allowing totalitarian rule, not "popular." The corporations that pay for elections and candidates are running things now. You have a crisis to deal with, not a TV commercial. Well, the issue goes on and on, but this is part of it. Learn your history--just don't now hold a "revolutionary 'framers' and bloggers" converntion at the Hyatt-Regency, the way they do, where only they can attend."

Your posts just get better. It's all there. Some Democrats are getting it. I asked the question in this thread "how do you deal with the identification with the mega rich" by the middle class as it dissolves............ the only reply was that Dems need to learn the "fine art of branding" to which both you and I say :puke: and :wtf: That identification with the super rich and their representative authority figures is what all these things depend upon. Who's a sucker now?

I think Frank and The Baffler have potential to move thinking in the right direction. The think tank concept will work, as long as it's not done in a cynical, superior manner. Check out The Baffler. :hi:
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