TomInTib
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Mon Sep-04-06 01:02 AM
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I met this kid today. His name is Ethan and he can sign, but... |
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he is too young to speak.
Got me to thinking... How far behind is our learned verbal response to our cognitive resonance?
Think about it.
Spit.. we blink.
Lie... we think about it.
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pitohui
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Mon Sep-04-06 01:06 AM
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1. what does cognitive resonance mean when it's at home? |
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some of us on the autistic spectrum will never be able to see and send nonverbal communication, not if we live for a thousand years
there is no "our" learned verbal responses, all brains are different
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Mon Sep-04-06 01:21 AM
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5. See my feeble response at #4 nt |
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Mon Sep-04-06 01:11 AM
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2. I have a friend who had a hearing impaired sister so she knew ASL |
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and she taught both of her daughters as babies to sign before they could talk. It was awesome. They communicated like no babies I had ever seen.
I think the key here is not learned verbal response but language development. My friend's babies were proof that the brain is ready to learn and produce language long before verbal skills develop.
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Mon Sep-04-06 01:20 AM
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4. My idea here was that if you could figure out how to kick the inner self |
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in the crotch then why would one worry about the verbal?
Rove and Co., 'ya know.
I just wish that I was more expressive and more agile on the keyboard.
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Mon Sep-04-06 01:57 AM
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7. You are asking the brain to change the way it develops |
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That is probably not possible.
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pitohui
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Mon Sep-04-06 02:43 AM
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9. a bit like that john varley story i suppose |
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i dunno, tom, shoot me now
the verbal was pretty hard fought for me, i'm not willing to give it up :-)
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Mon Sep-04-06 01:15 AM
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3. Well, some studies show verbal development lagging far behind... |
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...the actual 'ability to communicate'. And some believe that the ability to communicate with others is actually stunted by focusing exclusively on SPEECH, that it makes no sense to neglect that developement until the ability to SPEAK finally comes along. It's been likened to preventing a child from crawling until she's able to walk.
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Mon Sep-04-06 01:22 AM
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6. That is kinda where I was heading. |
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Mon Sep-04-06 02:06 AM
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8. Yeah. It's an idea that makes a lot of sense. |
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And not just to toothless hilbillies like me.
We have some friends who are using American Sign with their baby, and he's doing well with them.
His signing is well ahead of verbal skills. Not just in physical ability, but in communicating.
Last I saw him, he had the usual number of baby-words for a fella his age. But the words were still a novelty, and their use fairly random, as is considered normal.
But when he signs 'book', there's no doubt that he MEANS 'book'. Maybe he SEES his book, maybe he WANTS his book... but there's little doubt that he not only KNOWS that the sign means 'book', he knows that using it is COMMUNICATING the idea of 'book' to whoever he is signing to.
He might repeat his words to himself for his own amusement the way babies do, chanting 'ma-ma' or 'buh-buh' repeatedly. But he only SIGNS to other people.
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