Is domestic spying a Ft. Sumter, and are we now in a bloodless Civil War?

[DeepModem Mom]

Not North v. South, or Blue v. Red, but a war that is pitting those who are fighting for our country as it has been, and those who are willing for it to be something else? Al Gore quoted Lincoln the other day, saying at Gettysburg that the Civil War was testing whether "that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated can long endure."


This I just read in LBN sounds like an answering volley:

Future charges possible, Dems warn White House
Statute of limitations extends past 2008, congressman says
Edward Epstein, S.F.Chronicle Washington Bureau
Saturday, January 21, 2006

Washington -- House Democrats warned President Bush, top leaders of his administration and officials of the National Security Agency on Friday that if the political climate changes they could face criminal prosecution for ordering and carrying out warrantless domestic eavesdropping.

"These are clearly crimes and the statute of limitations extends beyond this president's term,'' which will end in January 2009, said Rep. Jerry Nadler D-N.Y., at an ad hoc hearing called by House Judiciary Committee's Democrats to assail Bush's contention that his order for warrantless domestic wiretaps on American citizens is legal.

Another member, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Pasadena, said, "I hope the administration ceases and desists, at least out of respect for their own liability."...


The Bush cabal has been judged outside the parameters of the nation created by the Founding Fathers, and that nation, as such, may cease to exist. But I think these Democrats are saying that if they had the power, they would remove our current leadership and legally and peacefully restore the Founders' America. This is a very unsettling, and frightening time. Bush, Rove, and their minions have so clearly exceeded the power granted them by the Constitution now, and have trumpeted their right to do so, that we seem to have past a historic marker. I believe we are now "engaged in (another) great Civil War," testing as the first one, whether our nation will endure.

[MissWaverly]

1. Insightful post

we have to fight to make our government accountable, move away from a government
based on self-interest to a government that is truly a servant of the American people.

[elehhhhna]

2. Spin THAT, Karl.

[iamahaingttta]

3. You're right...

We have crossed into another era. It's a frightening time. And we need to do all we can to remove these people from power, permanently, and by any means necessary. It won't be easy, but nothing worthwhile ever is, I suppose.

Sigh!

And now they're gonna have to keep an eye on ME too, 'cause I just said that.

Double sigh!!

[pinto]

4. No, I don't think so. Looks like checks and balances to me.