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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:22 PM
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Cheney...we were not in Iraq on Sept. 11, 2001, and the terrorists hit us
Torquemada Cheney was torturing logic again in a speech to a conservative think tank in New York. "Some have suggested that by liberating Iraq from Saddam Hussein, we simply stirred up a hornets' nest," he said. "They overlook a fundamental fact: we were not in Iraq on Sept. 11, 2001, and the terrorists hit us anyway."

Yeah, Dick, because they weren't in Iraq, either.
.................

love that last line
...................
Googling Past the Graveyard

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/01/21/opinion/21dowd.html
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:25 PM
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1. Q: Why do you need an elephant gun? There aren't any elephants around.
A: See how well it works?
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:30 PM
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7. Perfect analogy! n/t
n/t
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:25 PM
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2. Yeah, those terrorists were from Saudi Arabia
and they got their wish to remove US troops from their country.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:57 PM
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17. Yep. And strangely enough we WERE in Saudi Arabia. Go figure.
Cheney wouldn't connect those dots if an elephant were stomping on his foot.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:26 PM
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3. we weren't in Hungary on Sept. 11, 2001 either Dick
what a fucking verminous turd nozzle he is
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:36 PM
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10. turd nozzle.... funny one that... nt.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:53 PM
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15. BWAAAAHAAAAHAAAA!
Verminous Turd Nozel! oh that's outrageous...

one more time

BWAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAA!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:26 PM
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4. Once again, trying to reinforce the notion
that Saddam Hussein, and probably Bill Clinton as well, personally piloted all 4 planes on 9/11
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:28 PM
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5. This is making my head hurt
:banghead:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:30 PM
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6. he is very successful at this logic--simpletons listen.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:31 PM
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8. Oaky, so I wasn't beating-up Republicans when I caught the flu, so
now that I have the flu, I should go out and beat up some Republicans.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:57 PM
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16. Now you are on to something!
Maybe just beating them up won't stop it. What if it takes rounding them up and putting them in a safe place, just so none of us will catch the flu.

I mean, you weren't doing that either. We have to protect ourself from the flu. You know you can't be too careful about the flu, killed millions about a hundred years ago. Nope, you can't be too safe.

:banghead:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 07:47 PM
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22. Actually, the logic is fairly parallel.
Republicans carry flu germs, don't they?

Just like Cheney would say, "Iraq carries Terrorist germs."

So by Cheney's logic, it makes sense to beat-up Republicans when you catch the flu.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:21 PM
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29. I'm convinced
Let's do it.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:35 PM
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9. We were in Indonesia and people were slaughtered by the
hundreds of thousands..... here's to you DICK.... people who lose friends and relatives simply do not have a 6 week memory as does the American public.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/bush-cheney.htm
In the global wings, U.S. corporations were circling like sharks, waiting
to go in for the kill. For example, in 1965, Freeport Sulfur cut a private deal - with Henry Kissinger reportedly the deal broker - with Indian officials for a share in a proposed gold-copper mining, while Mobile Oil Indonesia entered into a contract with the Indonesian state oil company, Pertamina. Over a dozen other oil companies were waiting for their chance to pounce. All that was needed to complete the scheme was to get rid of Sukarno to avoid the risk of most profits got to the Indonesian people.


The CIA helped Suharto plan and Stage a three-part coup. First, in 1965, all of the left-leaning military leaders were murdered and their deaths blamed on the PKI. Second, by convincing the public and Sukarno that the communists were trying to topple the government, Sukarto got clearance to lead an all-out slaughter of communists. Between 1965-1966 an estimated 500,000 to one million men, women, and children known or suspected of being communists were massacred. Some were murdered in their beds, and a large percentage were killed with U.S.-supplied weapons. "Time" magazine reported during this period that "travelers from areas tell of small rivers and streams that have been literally clogged with bodies."


In the final step of the coup, Suharto deposed Sukarno. What followed was a feeding frenzy by Suharto, his henchmen and U.S. corporations. Like a warlord, Suharto approriated the best of everything he could for himself and his family - oil wells, timber lands, and sugar plantations. Thousands of acres of land were seized by companies with the blessings of Suharto. Tens of thousands of native people were killed, displaced, or "disappeared" to make way for mining, logging, and drilling operations. The Freeport gold operation Kissinger (see "Bloody Hands Full of Gold") helped orchestrate (and of which he is today the primary stockholder, as well as collecting $500,000 a year as its chief legal rep through his law firm Kissinger Associates) was the first company to be officially licensed after the coup. By 1969, nineteen U.S. oil companies were vying for the rights to the oil beneath Indonesia's coastal waters, while Weyerhaueser, International Paper, and Boise Cascade were hacking down huge tracts of tropical forests in Sumatra as fast as they could hack. Meanwhile, now
that the U.S. had "saved" the Indonesian people from communism, they forced the natives to work in the new factories and industrial operations at an average wage of 10 cents an hour.


http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/041603_halliburton_and_the_dictators.htm
Indonesia. Halliburton had extensive investments and contracts in Suharto's Indonesia. The post-Suharto government during a purging of corruptly awarded contracts canceled one of its contracts. Indonesia Corruption Watch named Kellogg Brown & Root (Halliburton's engineering division) among 59 companies using collusive, corruptive and nepotistic practices in deals involving former President Suharto's family.

Iran. Dick Cheney has lobbied against the Iran-Libya Sanctions Act. Even with the Act in place, Halliburton has continued to operate in Iran. It settled with the Department of Commerce in 1997, before Cheney became CEO, over allegations relating to Iran for $15,000, without admitting any wrongdoing.

Iraq. Dick Cheney cites multilateral sanctions against Iraq as an example of sanctions he supports. Yet since the war, Halliburton-related companies helped to reconstruct Iraq's oil industry. In July 2000, the International Herald Tribune reported, "Dresser-Rand and Ingersoll-Dresser Pump Co., joint ventures that Halliburton has sold within the past year, have done work in Iraq on contracts for the reconstruction of Iraq's oil industry, under the United Nations' Oil for Food Program." A Halliburton spokesman acknowledged to the Tribune that the Dresser subsidiaries did sell oil-pumping equipment to Iraq via European agents.

Libya. Before Cheney's arrival, Halliburton was deeply involved in Libya, earning $44.7 million there in 1993. After sanctions on Libya were imposed, earnings dropped to $12.4 million in 1994. Halliburton continued doing business in Libya throughout Cheney's tenure. One Member of Congress accused the company "of undermining American foreign policy to the full extent allowed by law."

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/100500-01.htm
''Halliburton partners and subsidiaries, both before and during Dick Cheney's tenure as CEO, have been contractors for pipeline projects that have led to crimes against humanity in Burma,'' says Katie Redford, a human rights lawyer with EarthRights.

The military government in Burma, also known as Myanmar, has long been considered one of the world's most abusive regimes. The United States and the European Union have imposed economic sanctions against the country due to the military's human rights abuses.

The regime is holding Nobel Peace laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, whose political party swept national elections 10 years ago with more than 80 percent of the vote, under house arrest.

With western countries blocking substantial economic assistance from the World Bank and other multilateral financial institutions, the regime has been forced to rely on foreign investment in order to earn hard currency.

Two such investment projects are the Yadana and Yetagun pipelines. The 1.2 billion-dollar Yadana pipeline will pump natural gas from off- shore fields in the Andaman Sea through Burma to Thailand. Construction began in 1992 and was completed last year.

Lawyers with EarthRights have gathered testimony from more than 100 villagers and several alleged army deserters who claimed to be victims or witnesses of abuses related to the army's security operations in the pipeline.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:37 PM
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11. If A = B and B = C then cats can fly the spaceshuttle
So because we got hit on 9 -11
We can attack a country that had nothing to do w/ 9 -11

Guess if you lie about everything else and steal elections it really
does matter what you say.
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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 07:45 PM
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21. Toonces is a Terrorist?!?!
:wow:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:40 PM
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12. We were in iraq before 9-11
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 07:06 PM by jimshoes

We wer in Iraq pevious to the 9-11 attack and conducting overflights and bombing raids. So Dick is lying as ususal. Iraq still had nothing to do with 9-11.

From cnn.com/world

Iraq air patrols resume after raid
WEB EXCLUSIVE

February 18, 2001
Web posted at: 4:10 AM EST (0910 GMT)

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Iraq says Western planes have resumed patrols over the country amid continuing criticism of the U.S. and Britain over Friday's raids on Baghdad.

Iraq has vowed revenge for the air strikes, which it says killed two civilians and injured more than 20 others.

President Saddam Hussein and his aides on Saturday discussed plans for retaliation in the event of any further raid, the official Iraqi News Agency (INA) reported.

Washington said 24 U.S. and British planes hit Iraqi radar systems near Baghdad in Friday's attack, the first such raid ordered by new U.S. President George W. Bush.

more here
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/02/18/iraq.airstrike/


Re-edited to verify
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 07:48 PM
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23. that he is able to get away with this is another indication of how bad M$M
is today.

peace
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:46 PM
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13. But now I "get it"
if we HAD been in Iraq on 9/11.....

Why do they make pacemakers so well ?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:51 PM
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14. Yes we were! We've been in Iraq since the first Gulf War!
Cheney just doesn't know when to give it a rest. :mad:
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 07:56 PM
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25. even before that I suppose, when Saddam was Dick's pal
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:57 PM
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18. so.... then we should all move to Iraq?
Is that what he's saying? THat the United STates is so unsafe today
that we should all move to iraq so nobody will attack us. He's a good
point, as then the world trade center would have been empty. But forming
a new zion in iraq for all the american people to be safe from domestic
air terrorists.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:57 PM
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19. That crazy SOB just says that stuff because he likes to hear the sound
of his own voice and he knows it pisses dems off. Crazy Cheney knows better. He knows that we know better. He also knows bush**/Cheney supporters are stupid and will eat this crap up with a spoon. So what if it makes no sense? He's pandering to the flatliner crowd.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 07:26 PM
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20. You know what the most disturbing thing about this is?
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 07:27 PM by patrice
It's the behavior of a chimpanzee: "if we scream and threaten and kill enough of "them", the Lion will not kill us."

It scares me that we are lead by such primitive minds.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 07:55 PM
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24. I am an awful person because...
every time I see this scumbag or read about him I wish he would have a massive heart attack and die in agony.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 07:59 PM
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26. Please don't tempt me to agree with you!!
Just on the basis of what I do know about him I can say he's one of the worst people for America EVER and I wish he'd go away! And that doesn't even include the things I don't know about that he's done to our country.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:03 PM
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27. Sure, DicKKK
And shooting out the streetlights will make the sun go down.

Fuck the Verminous Turd Nozzle.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:05 PM
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28. Cheney doesn't "torture"..shame on you for thinking such a thing.
His logic is as reasonable as dog collars....for Iraqis.
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