POLL: ARE YOU PART OF THE DU FOLDING@HOME TEAM YET?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

If not, why not? Do you WANT us to keep losing to the freepers???

Don't know what it is? See this link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x204219

So please, vote in this poll. I want to see how many joined, how many don't know about it yet, and how many simply don't want to help out team DU.

I URGE you to join team DU now. We are still a ways behind the freepers but if everyone here cares enough to join we could overtake them in a heartbeat!

Thanks!

[Caoimhe]

1. I've now folded 10 proteins!

This is the easiest, most effortless good cause I can think of! C'mon we need more folks!

[DiverDave]

2. Yep, I'm number 53 on our team.

eom

[Caoimhe]

43. I saw your name! Thanks Dave

Every little bit helps. :bounce:

[catabryna]

3. Other...

We have a computer in our garage that has been doing nothing but this for over two years now. Yes, the garage ~~ my husband was a geek and had the garage wired when we had our home built! When he was diagnosed with cancer, he learned of this project during his internet research. I'm so pleased to see so many DU folks have become involved! I'd attempt to switch over, but I would guess that the system out there has probably taken on a life of its own at this point! :7

[Brundle_Fly]

21. BRUNDLEFLY

has added a Nasty Fast Mac Unix processor to your team!

:)

[Maru Kitteh]

27. wahoo! yay! *whistle*

lets go get those damn freepers!

[Brundle_Fly]

76. BRUNDLEFLY

Adds another 3.6 Gig P4.

thinks about adding to Linux server.....hmm.

Brundlefly wants to do at least 4 a day....

what is the link to the freepers team?

sorry for talking in third person.

I have no reasoning

[Maru Kitteh]

110. Brundlefly! I see you on the list!

We just got CPU #3 online today. Now to figure out this hyperthreading thing. Can I run more than one on here?

[vademocrat]

4. I'm in - folding my 3rd Work Unit...

[Ian David]

5. I've got 87% of my first protein folding.

If our protein turns out to be important, do we get to name it?

p2305_BBA5_Mutant is boring.

I want to name my protein "F-Dubya."

For a price, I'll name my protein GoldenPallace.com

[Maru Kitteh]

30. Thanks for the laugh! And you bring up a good question?

Now who do we ask about it? FuckDubya has a really nice ring to it. Now, I must go change my pants and mop up my keyboard. :thumbsup:

[bigwillq]

6. I've seen the threads but

I have no idea what a DU Folding team is. Can someone explain it to me like I am a 5 year old??????

[Ian David]

9. You put free software on your computer and it uses its spare time

to draw pictures of protein molecules that might someday be used to cure things like cancer, AIDS, Alzheimers, Senile Dementia or Republicanism.

On edit: And it's pretty to look at, too.

And we need to beat the Free Republic team.

[Roland99]

12. I just use the command-line version and run it as a service

I reckon it will crunch faster than a screensaver version or graphic version as it's not wasting CPU time drawing the graphics. ;)

[Ian David]

28. Too bad you can't write a virus to install it on people's computers...

That's a satirical riff.

[Maru Kitteh]

47. But they're pretty.

Ok, it's a little selfish, but I like to see it. More fun. I'll use command-line on my other machine though. Compromise.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. It is from Stanford U. A small program runs in the background on your

machine. You won't even know it's there and it's helping science by folding proteins (don't worry bout the technicalities of it, it is very complicated and the more assistance they get from citizens the better!). They made it fun by having teams you can designate your computer to. We have a team now and we've made great progress! But the freepers have been doing it longer and have a leg up on us, so we need as many DU'ers to join as possible so we can get more proteins folded, more processors running, and more points to climb the ranks!

For example, here's the link to our list and rankings.

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=48157

Don't think too much about it, just join!

Look at the link included in the Opening post for info on how.

[bigwillq]

50. I have to pass on it.

I'm on the computer mainly at work. I have a computer at home but I am not really home that much.
Good luck with it though.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

70. The Beauty Of It Is Once You Download It You Don't Need To Do Anything!

Even if you aren't home much, you can just download the exe and it will just run on your comp anyway :)

[kliljedahl]

7. Finished 14

Starting the 15th,20,000 folds, will be done Tuesday.



Keith’s Barbeque Central

[ebayfool]

18. LOL - I'm the tortoise to your hare, kliljedahl!

My comp is like me ... older model & tired, but we keep plugging along. But, at a very much slower pace!

I've got the proggy running @ 20 hrs a day - took me busting up a few folds to figure out what would coexist happily w/it.

Glad to see that the DU team has some comps w/legs like yours folding! :rofl: :applause: :woohoo:

[kliljedahl]

36. I look at those WAY ahead of me

with 4 or 5 processors going I ain't got shit. (excuse the bad grammar & profanity please)



Keith’s Barbeque Central

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. I can't install the Linux version

Super weird. I download it, then have it there in my home directory, and I do "chmod -x Linux-504.exe" and various other version of that and zippo, file not found. I'm using the latest Mandrake on my Linux box. Anyone wanna help a brother out?

[wakeme2008]

10. I had no problems running it under Linux

But I stopped, my Linux box was behind a proxy and it could not send results.

I think the 503 version is still out there, try it.

[r0tt3n1]

19. Linux client

That should be +x in that command to make it executable right?!? I find it helpful to download the client as a user, not root. There is a minimal security risk using it as root.
Then start the client with ./Linxxxx.exe

[alcibiades_mystery]

26. Yes yes +x, that's what I used

I keep getting the response that the file or directory cannot be found, even though I'm sitting there looking at it. I've tried everything, as client, root, whatever, and I even tried changing the name of the file and doing it that way, nada. Don't know what the eff is going on. Never had trouble downloading anything with the Mandrake before.

[r0tt3n1]

37. Linux client

You may need to use the Linux beta client. I had trouble using F@H with Mandrake 9.x and has to use the beta client. http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/release/FAH504-Linux.exe

[alcibiades_mystery]

38. All this happened WITh the beta!

Am I getting annoying yet? All this was with Linux-504.exe!

[longship]

101. PM me if you need assistance.

I can help you.

[Roland99]

11. Folding for a good cause!

And knocking on r0tt3n1's door. ;)

[TahitiNut]

13. As soon as they use BOINC, I'll think about it.

The last thing I need is yet another 'special' piece of software on my 'puter.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. It is completely safe and secure and we need your help.

Please, don't be so apprehensive. It is completely safe and we need all true DU'ers to take pride in DU and join DU's team so we can kick the freepers butts!

Just do it, no harm will come, I promise!

[TahitiNut]

17. What part of my post wasn't clear to you?

:eyes:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

24. LMAO! Lighten Up Francis

The part of it that proclaimed something is amiss with the program when there is absolutely NOTHING risky about it whatsoever.

But whatever, TEAM DU will whoop those freeper butts Without you! :P

[TahitiNut]

32. See http://fah-boinc.stanford.edu/

I'll make a couple of other observations ...

(1) I have a very negative reaction when someone 'sells' participation with a threat. I.e. "You're pond scum if you don't help." It's almost a guarantee that I'll flip them the bird.

(2) You don't know shit about my personal computer system. Since I have over 35 years working in computer systems, from the O/S level to the project management level, including programming in everything from Assembler (several different hardware platforms) to APL and Autocoder to Python, I think I have the requisite expertise to make that judgment on my own.

(3) Don't call me Shirley.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. ROFL

Jesus. It is amazing what some people will get defensive over!

It is a safe program. 35 years working on computer systems I would think you'd be able to judge that. As far as the threat goes, there is none. It is called being lighthearted and using lighthearted guilt to *gasp* actually try and motivate people to support DU's TEAM! (how dare I want to support Team DU :eyes: )

You don't want to help I could really care less, but I'm going to continue to try to rally support for DU's team however I can. This is a fun thing to do, no reason to get all serious about such a lighthearted topic. Sheesh! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:hi:

[Caoimhe]

44. you know something

I've done a lot of volunteer work in the past, and one thing I've noticed is that sometimes you have to be annoying to be heard. There will always be people who don't appreciate it, but look at what's been accomplished here in just a few weeks of our cheerleading and recruiting (yes I've only been doing it for less than 2 weeks)!

People also get irritated with me when I give them a hard time about BUYING kittens or puppies when I've spent so much time caring for the unwanteds. Same goes when I encourage folks to recycle, or give blood. I guess I've gotten used to being a pain. :silly:

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[Caoimhe]

94. The first time

I've ever had a reply to one of my posts deleted. Too bad I missed it! Maybe I should be glad though... I'd rather keep this thread positive.

[Caoimhe]

40. It's totally voluntary

And I have seen absolutely no difference in my computer's performance. On one of the machines I run Autocad 2006 and Adobe Photoshop, and there has been NO difference in how they run or how fast or slow that it folds! That's better than I can say for most "frivolous programs". I think we are all Pro-Folding-Choice. If you join, KUDOS.. if you don't, that's fine too! I certainly won't refer to you as pond scum or selfish if you choose not to. Nobody is more qualified than you in terms of knowing what your PC is capable of, as you are the one who uses it!

I'm having a kick doing this, and I love all my Folding Team Members for doing something progressive and interesting. That said, Let's catch those Freeptards! :applause:

[Maddy McCall]

42. Bravo...

Especially #1. Hard sales turn me off, too.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

45. Whew. Good Thing No One Is Doing Any Hard Selling! LOL

[TahitiNut]

56. (grin) Thanks. It's nice that someone gets it. Sometimes I wonder.

:dunce:

[Roland99]

20. How would BOINC make it not "special"?

[TahitiNut]

23. See ...

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/
http://predictor.scripps.edu/

and in particular, see http://fah-boinc.stanford.edu/

It's really amazing that so much has to be spelled out.

[Roland99]

39. I ran SETI@Home for 6 1/2 years and had ZERO problems.

[TahitiNut]

51. I started that one in May 1999 (that's about 6 1/2 years?)

Their original software ("Classic") had some minor problems at the outset, but nothing serious. I ran up nearly 26,000 hours of use on it. BOINC had somewhat larger problems at the outset, but nothing insurmountable. Among other things, I've done Beta testing since before some people around here could even spell c-o-m-p-u-t-e-r. I was a Beta-tester for Microsoft (on my personal time, of course) beginning when they had less than 100 employees. I've had more than enough experience with (so-called) stable software as well as what gets called 'Beta.' In my career, I've managed software development projects and, later, a techical software support department. Rarely will folks with 'vanilla' systems encounter problems with released software. Nonetheless, even today software developers will use the OS APIs in ways that're (cough) marginal. (There's a strange pride in such 'discoveries,' especially in the UNIX world.) The no-so-secret fact of the matter is that developers do a relatively decent job testing on somewhat bare, stable platforms - systems having very little if any other home-user software installed, let alone shareware. It's in the interactions of such software that problems arise - combinations of software that use marginally legitimate APIs or, in some cases, 'undocumented' APIs. In the earlier days (the 80s), there was a lot of software that would even bypass the OS APIs in favor of 'more efficient' methods. Lotus 1-2-3 was infamous for it.

So, it really doesn't mean shit whether Joe Blow used something on his system and had no problem. I know my system, not Joe Blow's. It's fascinating that this is so difficult for some to comprehend. It's even more fascinating that, equipped with such a complete lack of comprehension, they'd pretend to talk down to me about it. :eyes:

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[DiverDave]

85. Dont break your arm patting yourself on the back

and all the threads I've seen have never said ANYTHING CLOSE, to "your pond scum if you dont"
Do it, dont do it, who cares?
Oh, and most people that I know that brag like you are, usually dont have that much to brag about.

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[r0tt3n1]

31. F@H & BOINC

I havent been following the BOINC progress for F@H, but it is under beta testing. You may want to check out the Stanford site if interested. http://fah-boinc.stanford.edu/
I kinda agree with you about loading `special` software. The what-if's are not acceptable on critical machines.
The BOINC project has been working very well so far in other projects. Extensive testing of thier clients and some really savvy netizens are helping bring it along.
I hope to see BOINC support for F@H soon.

[TahitiNut]

33. I know. That's part of why I said it.

:shrug:

At the same time, there are other protein research projects (from less 'elite' schools) using BOINC. (It's just not my style to parade around telling folks the 'good stuff' I do privately - if any.)

FWIW, a list of the various BOINC projects can be seen at http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/

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[DemBones DemBones]

90. Ain't that the truth? nt

[Warpy]

16. I'll be doing a search for the site when I get home

toward the end of February and off this cheesy laptop and back to the Antichrist. The later got another 256 RAM for an Xmas present, so it should handle the prog just fine.

So gimme time, gimme time, willya?

[Maru Kitteh]

22. I just joined and it gave me the GRAND BITCH of all proteins

my projected WU end? 10:45 Wed 14 07!

I'm running on a P4 3.40GHz for pete's sake!

[r0tt3n1]

25. Grand Biatch of a wu

Thanx for helping Veganistan! I wouldnt put too much into that projected end date. It is using averages that are skewed heavily because you just started the wu. Give it a day then check again. Of course, the longer the computer is on, the more it can crunch them wu's.

[Ian David]

29. I've got six liquid-Nitrogen cooled Cray computers in my basement

Unfortunately, I'm too busy using them to surf for porn, so I can't install the folding program on them.

[Maru Kitteh]

34. STOP IT! Just CUT IT OUT!

I'm going to run out of paper towels and depends undergarments!:spray:

[Caoimhe]

41. They really really exaggerate at first!

I had one that projected to end in October 06 when I first started it, but it finished in three days! Don't give up, once you start seeing numbers click away and the time shoot down, you'll feel far less hopeless!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

46. Takes me about 36 hours for each one, usually.

Some are far bigger than others though. I do have a 3.2 pentium 4, but I don't know how much a difference that makes in the realm of things.

[Roxy66]

48. Help! I am trying to join the team...where is the configuration panel ?

I already downloaded the Windows XP Graphical client 5.03. Is this downloaded as a screensaver? I love this idea...I did a large PowerPoint/Report on the Genome Project. Help!!! :)

[Roxy66]

49. How do I know what Gene I have?

[Roland99]

54. Look at your unitinfo.txt file

My laptop contains:

Current Work Unit
-----------------
Name: p1136_p1130_L939_K12M_355K



So, that means Project 1136:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/allprojects#1136

[Roxy66]

62. Thanks...but mine says 0% progress...will it take a bit to register?

[Roland99]

64. Yeah...check it in an hour or two and see what happens

;)

[Roxy66]

65. Thanks so much.....kinda cool

[Roland99]

66. You'll soon be addicted and work to assimilate family and friends' PCs

:D

At one point in SETI@Home, I had 13 of my own PCs (I'm down to 3) and several from family.

[Craig3410]

52. Now I am.

:P :P

Signed up ~5 mins ago.

[Caoimhe]

71. YOU ROCK!

I am having a ball doing this shit!

[skids]

57. My CPU's too busy.

I use mine, unlike most users :-)

[Roland99]

58. Gaming? Graphics work?

Just curious. :)

[skids]

59. I play with genetic algs.

[Roland99]

60. Cool.

Hey, when you locate the gene that causes Republicans to turn into brain-dead sheep, let us know!

:evilgrin:

[skids]

61. Hrm, no not those genetic algs.

Evolving code, nothing to do with actual genomes.

I should really turn it off, I'm getting nowhere with it, which was to be expected considering I have zero experience in the field. :evilgrin:

[Roland99]

63. Ah ok...hey, keep going with it.

Ya never know!

[skids]

68. It's sad really...

...that more of the brilliant OpenSource minds aren't working on it. Most of the available suites are pretty basic theory, just OO wrappers around what would have been taught in an undergrad computer science course on it. And there's next to nothing available for advanced efficient virtual minimachines -- the classic stack machines and node trees are all that's in use at large. I get the sense that even in academic fields it's a bit of a neglected topic compared to most. You'd think by now we'd have a general purpose package that needs only input/ouput definitions and scoring test subroutines, and that it would have turned up in some distributed projects.

[Roland99]

78. There's a guy I work with that would probably love to brainstorm w/you.

;)

[Hello_Kitty]

67. I don't know what the hell I just did but I did it!

I'm a Folder now. Whatever that means. :shrug:

[Caoimhe]

72. ccbombs I just became one 1.8 weeks ago

if you have any questions ask me. Or better yet ask others, lol. You took the plunge, you will realize it is a simple swim from now on. Your first WU will come up desperately futuristic.. your computer is only giving enough to Folding@Home to ensure it will finish.. at some point in the future. It may give you 2007 or something even harder to comprehend but stick with it. After a few hours of crunching it will reflect a more accurate time frame. Once your first work unit finishes (3 days seems to be minimal) you will show up on the team scoreboard: http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=48157

I've had a bunch of fun watching the numbers improve and we gain on the Freeptards! Welcome!

Go TEAM!

[Adelante]

83. Where do you find the time estimation?

I don't see it anywhere. I'm on my first WU, though. It's almost a quarter of the way through.

[Caoimhe]

92. If you have the graphic, like mine

you will see the bottom left hand side, right above the two pie shapes, is the estimated END of your WU. That is their best guess based on what (probably lots of things) I don't know.

[Adelante]

99. I have an entirely different graphic layout

Maybe because I'm on a mac?

[Caoimhe]

106. wow, interesting

I had no idea they were that different. My suggestion would be to go to the Folding@Home forums, I've gotten several questions answered there by some basic browsing of the message board. http://forum.folding-community.org/homepage.php

Good luck! I'd be interested in seeing a screen shot of what your graphical interface looks like.

[gordontron]

69. whats your team called anyways?

I can't find it on http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teamstats

I don't know if I will join or not, I don't really want to leave my computer running when I'm not using (energy conservation) and when I am running it, it makes me uneasy to have a background program using up CPU time.

[Caoimhe]

73. Our Team is Democratic Underground #48157

When you download the software, install it and run it for the first time it will ask your name and your team number. From then on it is automatic. Hope you join! I've been pretty happy with it and I do graphics and CAD work, it hasn't affected a thing!

[mcscajun]

86. The monitor pulls most of the energy, and you can turn that off and

leave the CPU running. :)

That's what I do.

I've been running it for about a month now, and it hasn't had any impact on the rest of the stuff I do. YMMV. :)

[MrMonk]

74. Uploading completed work.

I finished the first WU on my home machine, but the upload to the FAH server failed.
Is this something that I did, or is it a problem at Stanford?

[progressoid]

75. Just started my first one!

[dmr]

77. This is what my pc is working on: Protein: p2020_BBA5

No idea what it means, but am happy to help.


Projects 2018-2020
These projects form a bridge between the results from projects 2008-2011 and projects 2012-2015. The general idea of all of these projects is to explore how much detail can be sacrificed before the kinetics starts being adversely effected. 2019 and 2020 form the bridge between exploring velocity decorrelation and electrostatic summation. Thus the results from 2008-2020 can all be used together. While on the surface these projects explore simplifying methodologies of molecular simulation, there are deeper scientific questions being addressed: to what extent do long range electrostatic forces matter, when you average over a larger ensemble?

Up close image of a bba5 helix:

Points and deadlines:
p2018 points 105, days 31; p2019 points 95, days 28; p2020 points 80, days 24;

[TheModernTerrorist]

81. #73

and climbing :-)

[sofa king]

82. Hooray! I'm a team player now.

I wish I were kidding about this, but I use Folding@Home to heat my room in the winter. Happy to share the love.

[Pharaoh]

84. I just signed up

Anything to fuck with the freeptards!

:evilgrin:

[Coexist]

88. Yes, I am anonymous, but I finished 4 WUs

whatever that means...

and I'm working on p2072 FS protein core 7a... whatever that means!

[Roland99]

89. Project 2072 >>>>

A bit of detail on it:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/allprojects#2072

[Catchawave]

91. Other: I'm tech challenged

and still have no clue what this is about. Sorry :(

[Maru Kitteh]

105. It's really easy, safe and fun. I don't understand all of it either but

I do know that it's for the good cause of working toward ending diseases like mad cow, Alzheimer's, CJD, Parkinson's and other protein related disease. I also know if we keep at it we can SMOKE those Neanderthal freepers!

You just download this little program -->

When you fill out your information there will be a field for what team you would like to be on. DU team # is 48157

Let the little program do it's thing and VIOLA! You are fighting disease AND freepers all at the same time! Bravo!




:patriot:

[DanCa]

93. Okay how do you join

I ve been fighting freepers all day.

[Caoimhe]

95. To join, you'll need to download a small program

from here http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html and when you install it, you'll get a screen to put in your user name and your team number. Our DU Team # 48157

Then you can begin folding! You can keep it minimized all the time or you can pull it up and watch the pretty protein folding, but either way I've noticed no difference in my computers performance.

Welcome aboard!

[DanCa]

96. how long would the down load take on dial up?

Just wondering.

[TheGunslinger]

97. 30 seconds?

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/release/FAH502-Console.exe

[longship]

98. Got three CPU's cranking.

Linux clients, all.

P4 - 2.4 GHz
AMD Duron - 800 MHz
VIA C3 Nehemiah - 1.2 GHz

More coming soon. I have a PII - 400 MHz to go back into service and then a new Opteron Dual Core 64 bit @ 2.2 GHz!! Sizzle!!!

:woohoo:
I'm #60 with three units uploaded. I have three more in process. My two slower machines still have not uploaded a WU yet. One is at 67% (800 MHz Duron), the other is at 71% (1.2 GHz VIA C3 Nehemiah). Both these have rather large work units, 3,750,000 steps, so it's taking some time to complete, days. My fast box does about a work unit a day.

[Caoimhe]

108. Excellent longship! Welcome aboard the DU folding team!

Each day it is a treat to check out our DU Team stats page http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=48157 and watch the list of folders expand, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the number of completed Work Units! :applause:

[longship]

100. Statistics Here

Team Stats for DU at ExtremeOverClocking.com

Looks like we're on a roll. But we need more people if we're ever to overtake the Freepers. But there are hundreds of teams in danger if our current trend continues. We've moved up a couple hundred places since I joined the effort. I have two more machines which have yet to post and three more CPUs coming in the next couple of weeks. One will be a 64 bit dual core AMD Opteron.

Please consider doing this. It's easy.

And this is not meant to be a hard sell.

[Imalittleteapot]

102. 2 WUs

[Caoimhe]

109. WOOHOO!!!

:applause:

[chemp]

103. I'm in

and in the morning five work computers, and my lady's computer will as well.

Question? can I sign them all up under my name, or do I need a different name for all of them?

[Caoimhe]

107. You can enter your same name in all of the computers

I have three going. F@H will add each CPU to your total when each finishes it's first CPU. But for a bit, you won't show up. And DON'T FORGET to enter Team# 48157! The more DUers folding the better!!!

Welcome!

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

104. Hi all! On my Windows XP box

I've got Folding (melonhawg)running P4 2.4GHz.
I'm still using EON http://eon.cm.utexas.edu/stats.php (based in Austin,TX) on my roommates PC. Same specs as mine.

Both are neat.