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Tue Sep-05-06 11:44 AM
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ABC provides right-wing bloggers with advanced copies of Path to 9/11 |
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:45 AM
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1. The propaganda gets more naked every day. Wow. n/t |
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:03 PM
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14. This is a good thing. The more blatant the less effective, IMO. |
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I actually want ABC to run this garbage, I want people to see them for what they are. I also support CBS replacing Rather with Couric for the same reason.
They are exposing themselves, I say we let them. The sooner they are exposed the sooner we get angry enough to make changes to get back OUR airwaves.
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:07 PM
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16. Normally I'd agree with you, glitch. The trouble is, in this venue |
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Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 12:08 PM by sfexpat2000
people sit down and suspend their disbelief unlike when they listen to pollitician's speeches.
Hope you're right. :(
/ack
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:31 PM
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22. Me too. I could be wrong. But how likely are the people who supported |
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Clinton during his impeachment (wasn't it 70%) and who don't support Bush now (which is at least 60%) to buy this new version of the official conspiracy theory? It may get ABC additional viewers (more likely fewer or a wash, otherwise they wouldn't be running it without commercials and offering it as a free download on itunes, pause for :rofl:) but will it get any new believers? I kind of doubt it. People are already pissed and pissed people are more alert than complacent people.
I think it will backfire. I guess we'll find out soon enough!
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Tue Sep-05-06 07:25 PM
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42. THose are my thoughts, too..we |
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seem to be in the minority but as I wrote earlier today.."time will tell if my thoughts are hogwash or not."
It's not like it's 2003 and the corporate news is "marching us to war". We've had 3 years of bushshite and words are being written about why "the conspiracy theories aren't going away".
The corporatewhores are desperate as they should be..The Revolution will not be televised!
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Tue Sep-05-06 08:08 PM
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44. Ah zidzi, not the first time we've agreed... |
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:toast: cheers and here's hoping we're right!
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Wed Sep-06-06 10:53 AM
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:toast: To our wild and crazy thoughts!
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:46 AM
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2. But remember, it's fair and balanced just like Faux News! |
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:47 AM
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3. must be an election around the corner or something |
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:49 AM
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5. DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640 thousand to GW's 2000 campaign) |
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:49 AM
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6. DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640 thousand to GW's 2000 campaign) |
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Tue Sep-05-06 04:51 PM
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38. BOYCOTT ABC/ DISNEY IF THEY DON'T PULL THIS DOCUMENTARY |
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They shouldn't be allowed to get away with lies and distortions like these. Over and over again, ABC/Disney has shilled for the Bush administration with gusto (Reagan biopic, censoring Fahrenheit 9/11) and now this.
Time to boycott the Mickey Mouse network
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:47 AM
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All you "critics" and "nay-sayers" are just going to have to boost ABC's ratings and watch this wretched piece of excrement when it's broadcast, otherwise how can you credibly criticize something you haven't seen? How can you state with absolute assurance that the Spice Girls movie was horrible if you never saw it? Same logic applies to ABC's valentine to the Bush administration.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:54 AM
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9. Hey the Republics didn't have to watch that Reagan movie.... |
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They just kept screaming louder and louder.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:56 AM
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10. And how do you know the war on Iraq is going badly unless you go to Iraq? |
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Same logic. A lot of this meme is getting posted around here lately, often by newbies. And now they won't have commercial breaks and are offering it for free download on itunes. :rofl: Somebody's trying awful hard to salvage what looks like a PR disaster. (I use the term PR in it's euphemistic sense.)
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:14 PM
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19. Isn't this thing a 2 part airing? |
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I really haven't followed it but I heard part one is on the 10th and part 2 is on the 11th.
I would not have watched it if people were not upset. Now I wonder about what will be said.
Doesn't protesting it create more "media buzz" and free advertising?
Is the revisionist part really "newly discovered information?"
Some, if they hear on talk radio that the LIBERALS hate it won't they watch more than would otherwise?
I think it is too late to get it pulled but we could make the ratings go up by talking so much about it.
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Wed Sep-06-06 08:32 AM
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49. Hi Communism_not_USA!! |
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Tue Sep-05-06 07:08 PM
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41. PR=Pimping Republicans? |
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That the euphemism you were referring to?
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Tue Sep-05-06 07:44 PM
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43. That's good, but it was public relations as a euphemism for propaganda nt |
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Tue Sep-05-06 04:38 PM
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37. No, there are competent parties I trust that will watch that swill without |
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me having to. I already know enough about the piece of propaganda to declare it shall not cross my cathode ray tube. The Spice Girls... surely you jest?
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:53 AM
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7. Goebels must be smiling in his grave |
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truly.... and ABC is now the NEW Fox news....
Department of truth, here we go
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:54 AM
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8. Listen, people... I know from experience |
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The night of, and the morning after, people will be hitting the internet looking for information on the events as depicted in this movie.
Our biggest opportunity will be to have nearly identical blog posts waiting, then submit them to be found internet wide the morning after the movie. Google and Technorati will pick up on these posts quickly. We can make these entries dominate the first several pages of the search engines.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:57 AM
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12. Help us on how to do this then. |
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:08 PM
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17. get every Democratic friendly blog on board as possible... |
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... you e-mail the ones you know, they'll e-mail the ones they know, etc. Make SURE these blogs are on the Technorati network and have also been submitted to Google's blog search.
For one day, change the title of your blog to the title of the movie.
Agree on a clear, detailed, and sourced body of information -- I've seen several examples on DU lately disputing what is in the movie. Media Matters has one. One was posted today on DU by Richard Clarke.
Everyone post it. Right after the movie is over or the next morning at the latest.
Voila!
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:26 PM
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21. it appears Technorati indexes DU journals... now it gets interesting |
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If we can get the site admins to create a special limited time forum for everyone to post the body of information in, then we can all add the info to our journals.
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:33 PM
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23. How do I find out if these blogs are on the Technorati network ? |
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:37 PM
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search for the blog's URL in the "searc" box. Select "in blog directory" from the pulldown menu.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:58 AM
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:04 PM
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15. Agreed.. very good idea. n/t |
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:21 PM
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Tue Sep-05-06 02:23 PM
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We should be hitting google links getting them to the top ready to counter act the movie .
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Tue Sep-05-06 02:46 PM
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27. getting fleshed out here: |
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Tue Sep-05-06 05:03 PM
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39. Will, how fast could you prepare a true-false list after viewing the |
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drama? Since you know the Clinton facts best you would be the ideal person to put it in an up-down, true-false context for people to send, relay, link to. copy off? I prefer left-right, side-by-side, fiction-fact presentations, but that might be difficult for different document programs.
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Tue Sep-05-06 10:40 PM
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48. That would require me to watch this sack of crap |
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and Miss the Monday Night Football double-header.
Nope. Frankly, I'd rather watch dog poop harden on a sidewalk than this miniseries. I put my work in writing that essay. My reward is football. :)
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Wed Sep-06-06 10:59 AM
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51. Thank you, Will Pitt! |
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Tue Sep-05-06 04:24 PM
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36. Fantastic idea, wyldwolf |
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:57 AM
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11. The M$M works for the Right Wing in this country. |
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That is why America could fall, the inability to use communication for critical thinking. Instead, we get this RW propaganda piece about 9/11. A day that the M$M won't touch if it deals with reality!
Fuck alphabet soup and their piss poor TV channel. Just more reasons why I will NEVER watch ABC.
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Tue Sep-05-06 12:13 PM
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18. Ha! I was right - this movie is definately a swift-boating tool! |
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Tue Sep-05-06 02:21 PM
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.........has warned us of the rising tide of Fascists. This "doctored-umentary" is in keeping with that. After all, they've conveniently left out that the looming Fascists baddies are staging their attacks out of our own capitol!
:banghead:
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This little bit of pablum must be tied to the same people that have been lying. Call it conservative distortion and point out that it is the kind of honesty we have come to expect from supporters of this administration.
This is the real swiftboating exercise this year. Expect it to come up on O'Reilly and whatever other pundints decide to speak to it. Stossel will probably find some excuse to attack fact checkers.
Lets turn this around and rub their faces in it. Since it's a lie we shouldn't be afraid to call it a lie and be done with it. The story has to be that it is a lie. We must express our disgust with this piece of crap. Intellectually debating it is like going to debate a pig in his sty, you might win the debate but no one cares becuase you end up stinking for the effort.
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Tue Sep-05-06 02:55 PM
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31. Isn't this an "in kind contribution" to the Republican Party? |
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Tue Sep-05-06 06:21 PM
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40. exactly my question-- |
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free of advertising in an election year? Good lord, could they be any more blatant?
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Tue Sep-05-06 02:56 PM
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32. Who is the right-wing wanker on ABC who is approving this propaganda? |
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Remember the propaganda model, remember how they operate. Never be at all surprised by a thing they say or what they do.
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Tue Sep-05-06 04:23 PM
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35. Happy to be the 5th recommendation. |
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I'd ask :wtf: is wrong with these people, but I already know the answer. They have no shame.
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Tue Sep-05-06 08:09 PM
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45. BUSTED! CORPORATE ABC Shilling for Fascists in Power! BUSTED! (nt) |
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Tue Sep-05-06 08:11 PM
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46. It's time to block ABC using my remote just like I do with FUX. |
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Wed Sep-06-06 01:22 PM
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53. Read this! call/write ABC, Demand they cancel the show |
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ABC: Tell the Truth About 9/11
Contributed by Working Assets On September 10th and 11th, ABC -- which is owned by Disney -- is planning to air a "docu-drama" called "Path to 9/11," which is being billed as "an objective telling of the events of 9/11." In fact, the film was written by an unabashed conservative who twists the facts to blame President Clinton.
In fact, the list of counterterrorism initiatives undertaken by the Clinton administration is lengthy and comprehensive. Regrettably, the record shows that most of these efforts were watered down or abandoned by the Bush administration when they came into office. History will also record that President Bush was the one who received -- and while on vacation, chose to ignore -- a Presidential Daily Briefing on August 6, 2001 entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US."
ABC's new six-hour film was apparently screened in advance only to conservative bloggers and journalists -- and received extensive praise from none other than Rush Limbaugh. ABC is advertising the film as being "based on the 9/11 Commission report" -- yet also admits that it's a "docu-drama," in which writers and producers are free to invent and distort facts. Former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke has already completely refuted one of the key scenes of the movie.
It's simply stunning to think that as this fall's election approaches, a major television network would devote six hours of prime-time programming to air such a slanted and inaccurate program. There is simply no way that a conservative writer, with an anti-Clinton axe to grind, should be allowed to use public airwaves to broadcast a gross distortion of the truth -- especially on the anniversary of the worst day in our history.
Call to action: Send a message to ABC asking them to cancel the show. www.abc.com
Deadline: 9/10/2006
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Wed Sep-06-06 01:59 PM
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54. > Tell ABC to cancel the show. Here's the Link : |
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> Tell ABC to Cancel Their Inaccurate and Slanted Sept. 11th Program > http://act.actforchange.com/cgi-bin7/DM/y/epid0IcSaC0Ubj0BMZC0Ea
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Wed Sep-06-06 02:02 PM
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55. Done. K&R. Folks this is DEAD easy to do..and ABC needs to hear... |
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UNbelievable the outright partisan poltics going on here.
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