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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:12 PM
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Pentagon: Terror war may need name change
WASHINGTON, Sept. 5 (UPI) -- The United States should rethink the label it uses for what is known as the "global war on terror," the chief of strategic planning on the Pentagon's Joint Staff said Tuesday. What is needed, said Army Col. Gary Cheek, is to recast terrorists as the criminals they are. "If we can change the name ... and find the right sequence of events that allows us to do that, that changes the dynamic of the conflict," said Cheek at the Defense Forum Washington, sponsored by the Marine Corps Association and the U.S. Naval Institute. "It makes sense for us to find another name for the GWOT," said Cheek. "It merits rethinking. I know our European allies are more comfortable articulating issues of terrorism as criminal threats, rather than war ... It ought to be our goal to partner better with the European allies so we can migrate this from a war to something other than a war."

The "war" moniker elevates al-Qaida and other transnational terrorists, giving them legitimacy as an opposition force to the United States. It also tends to alienate Muslim populations in other countries, who see the war as a war on Islam, and feel they need to support al-Qaida as a matter of defending their faith. It also tends to frame the fight as one in which the Defense Department has the primary role, when it is becoming increasingly clear that the "long war" against global terrorism is going to be won on other fronts -- economic, political, diplomatic, financial. Other government agencies and departments must become more engaged; only they have the expertise to help other countries take the actions necessary to defeat terrorists. Cheek's idea is not a new one, and for all the practical sense it makes to the military, it is being floated at a politically inopportune time. Both the U.S. House and the Senate hang in the balance, with a shift from Republican to Democratic control possible after the midterm elections.

To hang onto power, Republicans are returning to their strongest card: national security. And one of their chief attacks on Democrats is their alleged preference to manage terrorism as a law enforcement problem rather than being serious about defeating them in a war. It's a tactic borrowed from President George W. Bush himself. Campaigning for his second term in 2004, Bush hit that theme often, attacking Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry for saying the war on terror was "far less of a military operation and far more of an intelligence-gathering law enforcement operation." Bush responded: "After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. With those attacks, the terrorists and supporters declared war on the United States of America -- and war is what they got."

But a little more than a year later, then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Richard Myers said in a speech at the National Press Club he had objected to the use of the term "war on terrorism" because it causes people to think that the military is the solution. Within weeks, Bush publicly overruled Myers and Rumsfeld - who had also adopted the more complicated moniker "global struggle against violent extremism" -- by declaring in a speech in Texas in August 2005: "Make no mistake about it, this is a war against people who profess an ideology, and they use terror as a means to achieve their objectives." Recent weeks have proven, in fact, that terrorism is often fought with law enforcement: British officials have arrested scores of alleged would-be homegrown terrorists plotting to blow up transatlantic flights to the United States...

http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060905-033639-5554r

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:14 PM
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1. a new slogan will not matter, their product is not a prime seller...
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:14 PM
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2. THEY THINK A NAME CHANGE WILL MAKE THINGS BETTER?
This my friends is why the Darwin Awards were invented.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:15 PM
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3. Global War on Crime?
Global War on something that will never go away?
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:22 PM
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7. Lets change it to Global War on Bush
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:15 PM
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4. May I suggest we call it "The Mother of All Catastrophic Clusterfucks
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:16 PM
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5. Another entry in the No Shit file.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:17 PM
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6. "Migrate this from a war to something other than a war?"
This guy must be a filthy hippie communist!! Why does he hate America??

:rofl:

NGU.


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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:32 PM
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8. No way -- Bush needs the war label too much
He needs the (Global) War on Terror label. It allows him to keep pounding home the message that we are AT WAR and our nation is "in jeopardy" so he can claim war powers to justify his criminal behavior.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:32 PM
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9. 'Crime" is perfect and *
is the head of the 'crime family'
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:34 PM
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10. The war to (never) end all wars
Or something like that.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:35 PM
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11. Will Bush then be called the 'Crime President'?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:40 PM
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12. They've already tried to change the name....7/25/2005...

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/07/26/news/terror.php

Washington recasts terror war as 'struggle'
By Eric Schmitt and Thom Shanker The New York Times


WASHINGTON The Bush administration is retooling its slogan for the fight against Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, pushing the idea that the long-term struggle is as much an ideological battle as a military mission, according to senior administration and military officials.


In recent speeches and news conferences, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the country's top military officer have spoken of "a global struggle against violent extremism" rather than "the global war on terror," which had been the catchphrase of choice.


Administration officials say the earlier phrase may have outlived its usefulness, because it focused attention solely, and incorrectly, on the military campaign.


"It is more than just a military war on terror," Steven Hadley, the national security adviser, said in a telephone interview. "It's broader than that. It's a global struggle against extremism. We need to dispute both the gloomy vision and offer a positive alternative."


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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:43 PM
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13. Well, the "War on Islamofascists"
was a resounding dud, so it's back to the drawing board. They could call it "Cakewalk to Infinity" for all the good it's going to do.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:44 PM
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14. the guy is absolutely right, but it doesn't fit Bush's agenda
The "war" moniker elevates al-Qaida and other transnational terrorists, giving them legitimacy as an opposition force to the United States. It also tends to alienate Muslim populations in other countries, who see the war as a war on Islam, and feel they need to support al-Qaida as a matter of defending their faith. It also tends to frame the fight as one in which the Defense Department has the primary role, when it is becoming increasingly clear that the "long war" against global terrorism is going to be won on other fronts -- economic, political, diplomatic, financial. Other government agencies and departments must become more engaged; only they have the expertise to help other countries take the actions necessary to defeat terrorists. Cheek's idea is not a new one, and for all the practical sense it makes to the military, it is being floated at a politically inopportune time.

it's true that this depicts the European approach. Notice that in this approach "economic, political, diplomatic, financial" (I would add policiary) doesn't include military.

it's not because it's coming from the Pentagon, that it is stupid. They surely have competent people. But the clusterfuck in the WH suppresses their attempts.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:44 PM
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15. Empty Slogans are all they have ever had
they have no coherent policy just Empty Slogans .


The American People Are Not Stupid
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:33 PM
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16. Wow! Speaking common sense -- it's so... so... um... RADICAL!
Bravo, Col. Cheek! It's amazing to hear something so logical and intelligent coming from the JCS. Wonder how long he'll last in his position for having the guts to propose an actually HONEST mode of framing the challenge of countering certain group's inclination toward mass murder.

I imagine his eminently sensible remarks will be roundly ignored at best -- and at worst, he will be prevailed upon to announce his immediate retirement and removal from the JCS. The implications of his proposal are too profound -- particularily in regard to the chimperor's ability to catapault the propaganda of being a "War President" -- to be allowed to gain traction.

But if our Republic is to be at all salvaged from the ravages of the bush cabal, it is precisely this sort of critical thinking that is most urgently needed.

sw
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:20 AM
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17. Yeah, OK, MEANWHILE the USA needs a REGIME CHANGE!!!!
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