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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:16 AM
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ABC Says: Path to 9/11 Is About INFORMATION Delivery, Not Entertainment!
This thing is a total whitewash Propaganda SCAM!! It must be stopped. ABC has basically admitted this isn't about entertainment at all. It's about presenting <"factual"> INFORMATION. How blatant could they possibly be??

Furthermore, look at what ABC is doing - sending letters from Tom Kaine to 100,000 educators! This is too much.

BOYCOTT ABC! ALL OF ABC! Boycott all of ABC's sponsors! Don't turn on ABC on your television set, ever. These guys are full of @### and are willingly deceiving the public.


McPherson said by offering the show for free on iTunes and via streaming video on ABC.com, the net hoped to expose as many people as possible to the findings of the 9/11 Commission, whose report forms the basis of the mini's script.

"By giving it this platform and by dramatizing it, we'll get more people to get that information," he said. "We spent $30 million on this and we're putting it on without commercials. How important we think this is speaks for itself."

Because "Path to 9/11" will air without sponsorship, whatever audience it attracts won't be officially recorded by Nielsen.

To spread the word about "Path to 9/11," ABC is sending 100,000 high school educators a letter from 9/11 Commission co-chair Tom Keane informing them of the various platforms on which the mini is available. ABC and Scholastic have pacted to produce an online study guide.

Source: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117949477?categoryid=14&cs=1&nid=2565
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:17 AM
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1. Correction, Path to 9/11 Is About PROPAGANDA
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:53 AM
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17. point is, them calling it "information" proves its propaganda
if we called it propaganda and they said "but its just a drama, for entertainment value" that might be a valid defense.

But when they come out now and say that this is actually information, and is in fact not just entertainment, then we got them.

They have no "Its just entertainment" defense when we remind them that two of the main characters in the movie and who were actually involved in these events both strenuously object to the ABC telling, even to the point where they literally say "It never happened".
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:20 AM
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2. It's about BULLSHIT
of the right wing kind.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:22 AM
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3. Fuck ABC. Fuck John Stossel. Fuck Disney
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:22 AM
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4. I don't understand...
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 11:23 AM by TwoSparkles
I thought the "Path to 9/11" strayed drastically from the 9/11 Commission report. I also thought Tom Keane was a man of integrity and that he fought to have the truth about 9/11 revealed.

Why would he support "Path to 9/11" if parts of it are factually inaccurate and don't reflect the truth outlined in his 9/11 report?

Very confused.

They'd damn well better not infuse this into my kids' elementary school. I'll have a great deal to say about that.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:37 AM
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12. I think we have come to the point
where anyone who continues to have an R after their names is as guilty as this administration. There is enough evidence out there for them to say "No more!" and if they still asscociate they are guilty too. Anyone who has any decency left should have left the party and separated themselves from what it stands for. It's one thing to be a true conservative and quite another to let happen what is happening to our country. Their silence on this is unacceptabe. Tom Keane, Christy Whitman, Lincoln Chaffee, Snow and Collins included, they can't continue to hide behind the moderate veil.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:52 AM
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16. Did you see Keane on 'The Daily Show' a few weeks ago.
He was fawning over how gracious, forthcoming and cooperative Bu$h was during the 9/11 interview session and what a great democracy we have that people can sit with him and discuss these things. No mention that the jerk-off wasn't under oath at the time.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:58 AM
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19. Is Tom Keane a Republican? Case closed.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:23 AM
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5. Oy!
x(
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:23 AM
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6. Here is a link to the study guide
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:45 AM
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13. OMG check this out from the first Student resource sheet
The United States is a federal republic that is ruled by
representative democracy.The current president is
George W. Bush. Following the
terrorist attacks on September
11, the United States began a
global “War on Terror” to stop
terrorist groups and statesponsored
terrorism.As part of
the “War on Terror,” President
Bush has led the United States
into Afghanistan and Iraq and
reorganized the national
government in an attempt to
combat terrorist activity.

want to guess what picture is directly beside that text?

Yep it is the Bush bull horn shot on the 9/11 rubble


-----ALSO-------------


CLASSROOM DISCUSSION
AND DEBATE
THE PATH TO 9/11, PART 1
Debate It
Choose a side and debate as a class or in small groups.
1. On August 7, 1998, two U.S. embassies (Nairobi,Kenya,
and Dar es Salaam,Tanzania) are bombed in Africa,
killing 250 people, including 12 Americans, and injuring
4,000.The Clinton administration responds with
airstrikes against suspected bin Laden training camps
in Afghanistan and Sudan. In a press conference after
the bombings, President Clinton said,“We will use all
the means at our disposal to bring those responsible
to justice.”
Did the U.S. airstrikes help or hinder the U.S. stance on
the war on terror? How does Osama bin Laden appear
to the Muslim world after these bombings?
2. On December 14, 1999, a border guard at the
Canadian border questions a man of Middle Eastern
appearance about his Canadian residence. She asks the
man where in Canada he resides and for how long.
The man speaks with an accent and appears not to
understand.The guard repeats the question and the
man stammers that he has been a resident for six
years.When
asked for another
form of identification,
the
man shows the
guard his
Costco membership
card.
The guard asks
the man to pull
over for more
questioning.He
asks,“What is
wrong?” The
guard responds,
“Nothing, sir,
just pull over to
the side.” The guard explains to a colleague as they
walk toward the man’s car, “This guy is very uptight. I
want a thorough look-see.”
The guard asks the man to open his car trunk.The
man asks,“Why?” She responds,“Sir,U.S. Customs has
the right to search any vehicle entering the country.
Open the trunk…please.”A search of the trunk reveals
bomb-making materials. A follow-up investigation of
the man leads to the arrest of al Qaeda operatives in
New York on the eve of the millennium.
Do you think the event described above is a case of
racial profiling or a search based on evidence? Provide
examples from the miniseries to support your answer.
In the interest of protecting national security (as against
infringing on the rights of an individual) do you think
this kind of search should be allowed?




THE PATH TO 9/11, PART 2 THE PATH TO 9/11, PART 2
Critical-thinking Questions
1.What happened at the initial meeting between FBI
counterterrorism expert, John O’Neill, and the U.S.
Ambassador in Yemen? Why was the ambassador
unwilling to help O’Neill and his team?
2.What other political events in the news received
attention regarding counterterrorism during the
Clinton and Bush administrations?
3.Why didn’t the United States provide assistance to
General Massoud of the Northern Alliance to fight the
Taliban? Why did U.S. officials ignore General
Massoud’s warnings that bin Laden might strike?
4.What is the purpose of The 9/11 Commission Report?
5.What are your reactions to the 9/11 Commission’s
Report Card postscript at the end of the miniseries?
Debate It
Choose a side and debate as a class or in small groups.
1.The 9/11 Commission Report affords us hindsight.
Knowing what we know now, do you think the
attacks on 9/11 could have been prevented? Back up
your argument with examples from the miniseries or
The 9/11 Commission Report.
2. Does the media help or hinder our national security?
3. Is it possible to win the war on terror?
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hpot Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:26 AM
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7. GOP chickens
"We spent $30 million on this and we're putting it on without commercials."

Others must have helped them fund this docuganda. Why don't they show themselves instead of hiding behind anonymity? Bunch of pussies.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:29 AM
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8. I wrote ABC News last night. ...a copy of email
I am interested to know if ABC News has reviewed the ABC offering of Path to 9 11 for factual content? There seems to be concerns about it. It would be a shame if the viewing public is mislead, thinking it is a documentary and your News Department would be held responsible for the content.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:29 AM
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9. I have e-mailed them repeatedly.
Have locked them out on my cable. This is ssoooooo infuriating to me. To see my country hijacked in this way makes a rage burn in me. To have a docu-drama put on national tv that has been proven to be full of lies is just so damn unbelievable. Made me change my vacation plans for next summer. Was planning on Disney World with my grandson.I won`t give them a dime of my money.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:31 AM
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10. Look at this sick propaganda...
...outlines in the online Study guide that ABC is urging educators to give to students...

"This dramatization of events is based on The 9/11 Commission Report, published in July 2004. Created by Congress and President Bush, the 9/11 Commission was a bipartisan group charged with providing an account of the events surrounding 9/11 and recommendations for preventing future attacks.

"Created by Congress and President Bush"---Yeah right. The formation of that Commission was solely due to the families who fought hard and long for that Commission. Bush and other Republicans fought tooth and nail to prevent that from happening. They obstructed it. The Study Guide attempts to leverage their "movie" by saying that it is based on the 9/11 Commission report--which is totally a bipartisan Commission created by the President and politicians on both sides.

It's also my understanding that this movie veers drastically from the truth presented in the 9/11 Commission report. Aren't there shocking scenes in this movie that are NOT in the 9/11 Commission report (such as ClintonCo refusing to assassinate bin Laden when they knew what house he was in)?

Man...this is really sick and disgusting.

Rove worked over time on this baby. WE cannot let this stand.
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:36 AM
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11. Agreed! And wow, thanks.
Yes! Created by Bush? What a FREAKIN LIE!! You're absolutely right - Bush fought against the creation of this panel until pressure was brought to bear from the families of 9/11 victims.

Thank you for keeping our history accurate, which is at stake in this case.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:50 AM
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14. Don't forget, ABC brought us the propaganda show "Threat Matrix"
It was puuuure propaganda in it's worst form.
http://abc.go.com/primetime/preview/2003-04/threatmatrix.html
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:51 AM
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15. disgusting, isn't it?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:57 AM
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18. "Information" would be a pure documentary, with the actual 9/11,
pre- and post-, characters interviewed on-camera, with REAL documents REALLY quoted, with a RWAL time-line presented on-screen.

Actors, perforce, remove this from the realm of factual information (given that the involved parties are still alive, and that it isn't a documentary of, say, 1812).
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:59 AM
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20. Yeah? So where's the f*cking GOAT?
as in "The Pet Goat"?

AWOL?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:03 PM
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21. I reiterate: IT IS THE STUDY-GUIDE that is the INSIDIOUS ELEMENT.
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 12:06 PM by WinkyDink
ABC knows it might not have a large real-time viewing audince; that isn't its long-range goal. It is the infiltration of American public schools, to re-write, literally, the history books.

WRITE NOT TO ABC, BUT TO YOUR CHILD'S Social Studies Dept. Chairperson and Principal, Superintendent, etc.!

With facts, I managed to persuade my district from NOT signing on for Channel One TV. School systems CAN be affected by FACTS.

Remember NCLB, and the Bush brother selling computer programs to "pass" standardized tests. Bushco is all ABOUT public-school propagandizing.
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