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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:58 PM
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Tehran plans nuclear weapon test by March
"Tehran is planning a nuclear weapons test before the Iranian New Year on March 20, 2006 says a group opposed to the regime in Tehran.

The Foundation for Democracy citing sources in the U.S and Iran offered no further information."

http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060119-075725-6399r



*says a group OPPOSED to the regime in Tehran*

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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:01 AM
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1. And dutifully reported by a Moonie-owned news agency. . .
oh, yeah. . . this I believe. . .
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:03 AM
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2. Here's the rest of the article. No news here.
The FDI quotes sources in Iran that the high command of the Revolutionary Guards Air Force have issued new orders to Shahab-3 missile units, ordering them to move mobile missile launchers every 24 hours in view of a potential pre-emptive strike by the U.S. or Israel. The order was issued Tuesday, Jan. 16.

The group says the launchers move only at night, and have been instructed to change their positions "in a radius of 30 to 35 kilometers." Prior to the new orders the Shahab-3 units changed position on a weekly basis. Advance Shahab-3 units have been positioned in Kermanshah and Hamadan province, within striking distance of Israel. Reserve mobile launchers have been moved to Esfahan and Fars province.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:05 AM
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3. "Says a group opposed to the regime in Tehran"
"offered no further information"

Well, that's the standard we used to justify the Iraq war...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:08 AM
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4. The final piece...
I was wondering why I kept seeing articles about March being the "attack" month. This is that missing puzzle piece.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:09 AM
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7. are you kidding? You're buying anonymous crap from Moonie rags?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:16 AM
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9. I am not buying anything.
But, considering the constant "March is the attack month" meme, I now know why. Personally, I don't think this anything more than propaganda, much like the "March is the attack month" meme, but that's just my opinion.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:16 AM
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10. *says a group OPPOSED to the regime in Tehran*
you may have missed that part of the post.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:25 AM
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15. of course I didn't.... its the same type of INC-type bullshit operation
funded by the usual suspects, assisted by the usual suspects, given free PR by the usual suspects: ie, moonie rags.

but go ahead and believe some CIA-backed Iranian Chalabi. I'm sure they have the best interests of our country in mind.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:35 AM
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17. i liked the convenient deadline of march myself
a grade schooler could come up with more plausible propaganda.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:05 AM
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23. yeah, that does inspire more fear in the stupid than "5-10 years."
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 01:06 AM by thebigidea
I don't suppose these brave Iranian resistance fighters in pin-striped suits operating out of DC will bother to explain how Iran suddenly has weapons to test in a few weeks, eh? you'd think they'd rush to the IAEA with their massive scoop. Nah, the Moonies! That's the right outlet.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:59 AM
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21. Pssst, it's the Iranian Oil Bourse! n/t
PB
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:09 AM
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5. Dumb & Dummer. Or a lie.Funny how Iran is doing all this stuff
in March.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:09 AM
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6. Most will disagree, but such a thing would promote peace and stability.
If Iran did possess nuclear weapons, I believe that a detente based upon MAD (mutually-assured destruction) would be established. A more equitable distribution of geostrategic power would contribute to a comprehensive settlement in the region.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:13 AM
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8. Once a weapon is created, it must be contained.
And it was espionage that created a 'balance of power'.
Unfortunately, in 1962, things came distressingly close to nukes actually being used.

All things considered, having only 33 years of life versus never having existed... I prefer the former. (don't tell anybody, I usually wallow in a state of "life isn't worth it)...)
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:18 AM
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11. MAD
only works when both sides want to live.

Iran, the home of the suicide bomber, has a nut waiting for the twelfth imam. This, of course, is to be proceeded by some worldwide violence.

A MAD situation would be the best possible outcome.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:24 AM
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14. The U.S. and Soviet Union were run by plenty of crazies for 50 years
Stalin comes to mind, as does Nixon.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:39 AM
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18. had a nice
well written post but the move ate it. I am to lazy to re write it now.

Religion and Nukes bad. A foreign policy of Jew baiting (term used by world press) bad.

Hope someone invents a spark plug that I can put in my car that will allow me to fill it with piss and produce beer as exhaust. Then the region will be as important as the not so democratic republic of congo.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:53 AM
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19. Would that kind of car...
...be the first real perpetual motion machine?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:51 AM
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28. Not quite
you would have some chemical reaction to sustain combustion. But it would be great. Its inventor would have more cash than bill gates, or get whacked out by an oil company.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:57 AM
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20. Use the Firefox browser
It will remember what you type. You just hit the back arrow and there it is again. Here it is at Download.com- http://tinyurl.com/dhre4

The best thing about Firefox 1.5 is tab browsing. IE will soon have it. But extensions are great things too. I like the tinyurl creator and the dictionary that lets you highlight a word and get a definition in a new tab. It is considered more secure than IE and it is free.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:20 AM
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12. NO WAY!!!
especially with all the controversy going on right now, this is a setup NOT to be believed

I am no lover of the government in Tehran, but this so-called news story is a LIE

The most optomistic estimates when they would even be ready for a test have been five to ten years


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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:23 AM
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13. Not even Fermi could build one that fast...
Sounds like bullshit to me. Must be building it from African yellowcake, eh?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:27 AM
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16. I wouldn't doubt that Iran may have a nuclear bomb...
unlike Saddam they have been getting prepared... with our limited Intelligence destroyed by Chalibi... I would not doubt that they may have something...
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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:03 AM
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22. This is the nuke.
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 01:08 AM by Bushwick Bill
A successful test of an Iranian nuclear weapon at some point in the next few years may prove less destabilizing than a simple free market economic measure that Iran is said to be planning for March of this year.

Tehran is preparing to open a bourse, a mercantile exchange and potentially a futures market, where traders can buy and sell oil and gas, along the lines of the International Petroleum Exchange (IPE) in London and the NYTMEX in New York.
http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060118-052333-1392r

http://www.energybulletin.net/12125.html
http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/17450
http://www.antiwar.com/prather/?articleid=8426
http://www.teamliberty.net/id209.html
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:15 AM
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24. bush israel attacks iran iraan replys by closing
the persian gulf via their own attacks and oil shoots up to 150/200 dollars a barrel...lol
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:25 AM
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25. Israel's Defence Minister Threatens to Destroy Iran
Did you see that article on the right side of the UPI page in the opener?

Iran faces 'destruction' - Israel warns
Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz warned the Iranian people Saturday that they faced "destruction" unless they managed to restrain their new President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060121-045606-6575r

I notice the AP article about the same meeting did not mention that little tidbit.

Israeli Hints at Preparation to Stop Iran
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060122/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:09 AM
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26. The Foundation for Democracy in Iran
PNACers again.


The Foundation for Democracy in Iran is a private, non-profit corporation registered in the State of Maryland. Contact: Kenneth R. Timmerman, Executive Director (exec@iran.org). FDI materials, including the FDI Newswire, are available free-of-charge via the Internet at http://www.iran.org/.
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:x3GBPEbmajYJ:www.iran.org/humanrights/960506_appendix.html+Foundation+for+Democracy+in+Iran&hl=en

Kenneth R. Timmerman

In 1995, he founded the Foundation for Democracy in Iran with Peter Rodman, Joshua Muravchick and Iranian expatriates to support the democratic movement in that country. He founded the Middle East Data Project to advise Governments and private companies. In 1998, he made suggestions to the Rumsfeld Commission supporting the deployment of a national missile defence system.


http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:2Zwd3feSXXkJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_R._Timmerman++Kenneth+R.+Timmerman+&hl=en
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:28 AM
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27. Interesting too, that the article mentions March
Maybe they're really referring to this nuclear weapon test:

II. Iranian Oil Bourse

The Iranian government has finally developed the ultimate "nuclear" weapon that can swiftly destroy the financial system underpinning the American Empire. That weapon is the Iranian Oil Bourse slated to open in March 2006. It will be based on a euro-oil-trading mechanism that naturally implies payment for oil in Euro. In economic terms, this represents a much greater threat to the hegemony of the dollar than Saddam's, because it will allow anyone willing either to buy or to sell oil for Euro to transact on the exchange, thus circumventing the U.S. dollar altogether. If so, then it is likely that almost everyone will eagerly adopt this euro oil system...




http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11613.htm
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:03 AM
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29. "citing sources in the US and Terhan"....Wonder who the "US"
sources are...Judy Miller and Rummy?
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