Roxy66
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:04 PM
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Sounds like Clinton might take legal action against ABC... |
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MSNBC says Clintons lawyer is going after ABC. Hell Yeah!!
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:07 PM
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1. It's not too late to file an injunction stopping this POS. |
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I'm ready to donate to another Clinton legal fund. How about you?
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:07 PM
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Jersey Devil
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:19 PM
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18. You cannot get an injunction for this |
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If someone is going to commit an act of defamation a prior restraint is not available to stop it.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:08 PM
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3. And how are they going to do that? |
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This little fantasy movie by ABC is a load of crap, but how can Clinton, one of the most famous men in the world, going to sue for defamation or slander? When you are famous, suing for slander is next to impossible. The more famous you are, the harder it gets.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:10 PM
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6. All that has to be proven is malice.. |
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.. the fact that this was created by a bunch of known partisans should be enough.
I'm tired of hearing this bullshit about "impossible to win". Put it in front of a jury. Make them defend their decisions in front of the world. Winning is secondary.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:12 PM
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The Clenis should file any sort of lawsuit... I'm sure there are other things besides defamation and slander...
and get that before a judge right the hell now and ask for a temporary injunction until the matter can be decided by a jury.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:16 PM
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15. Knew or was in a position to know unfo was false and defamatory |
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They've been told about the slander and they are running it anyway. It's much harder to prove AFTER THE FACT, but this is before the fact. The fact that they refused to let Clinton et al review it beforehand, while passing copies out to wingnuts like breath mints, shows MALICE and complete disregard for the truth. Malicious behavior. Carole Burnette won a big case of libel in an after-the-fact case; with advance warning, this is an easy case to win.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:47 PM
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Since this is sold as a documentary drama shouldn't this have been viewed by a major party to this documentary?
How obvious and blatent a fact that some repubs got a preview and not Dems?
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:13 PM
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9. Because even the media cannot lie about public figures |
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when they have been placed on notice that what they are about to publish is a LIE.
That's the standard. That's why Clinton's lawyers told ABC in writing ahead of time that certain things were fabricated. See New York Times v Sullivan where the element of "actual malice" (for public figures) means that the person knew the statement to be false when it was made.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:14 PM
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12. When they are speading these lies to Schools around the Country.. |
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as historical fact....maybe they have a case!
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:24 PM
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20. Definitely have a case. . . and they'd better sue |
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Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 01:25 PM by pat_k
This is far more than defamation of Clinton, Albright, et al personally. The nation pays a high price for the lies that we allow to stand, unchallenged. (A war of words, not backed by concrete action, in not a challenge -- Joe Wilson has it right. You must take their lies into court.)
We in the center are great at complaining, but rarely actually DO SOMETHING.
Well, I for one am sick of it. I hope he doesn't stop with written demand to keep it off the air. The lies are out there. The damage is done. Keeping it from airing is not enough. The truth is the only antidote, and unless they put out the truth, they need to be sued.
If John Kerry had immediately filed suit against the swift boat lies, they would have gone down in flames. He would have shown strength by taking a REAL stand, and his heroism all those years ago would have been brought into the spotlight.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:16 PM
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16. When they are speading these lies to Schools around the Country.. |
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as historical fact...maybe they have a case!!
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:22 PM
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19. He can sue but he can't get a prior restraint to bar the broadcast |
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Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 01:27 PM by Jersey Devil
As a public figure he can still sue for defamation if he can prove "actual malice". Since the innacuracies in the movie have been pointed out to ABC and clearly run contrary to all the evidence it could well be that a jury would say that ABC is guilty of intentional or reckless disregard for the truth and is liable for damages.
But a prior restraint (injunction) is not a remedy that can be granted.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:08 PM
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We've still gotcher back!
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:10 PM
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5. Clenis the Menace is about to strike it rich, I think. |
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Cash money will bring out the fight in the Dog.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:17 PM
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If he sues the producers, who are a better target, he won't get much.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:30 PM
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21. LMAO!! Clenis the Menace!! I wonder if Scholastic is getting a little |
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Thu Sep-07-06 03:13 PM
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25. The porkee is about to become the porker! |
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The worm is starting to turn. All the GOP has left is a pathetic pack of lies and name calling. Nothing they have done has been good for the country. Even the fools ain't fooled anymore. The GOP don't have a leg to stand on now and they ALL know it. And now, horror of all horrors...the Clenis is about to get some...revenge too.
We are seeing the GOP shoot it's last wad and it ain't a pretty sight.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:12 PM
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I was wondering if he had any recourse, since slander would be difficult to prove because of Clinton's public figure status. I wonder if they could possibly get a court order, or injunction, or something, that would stop ABC from airing this on Sunday?
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:13 PM
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10. Looks like the 'vast right wing conspiracy' is having a rebirth...... |
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time to crush IT, before IT takes off.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:33 PM
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22. More like a Vast Right-wing Corpocracy |
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:15 PM
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13. Clinton should do whatever it takes to send a message about |
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9-11 and the war's of George W. Bush.
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Thu Sep-07-06 03:20 PM
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26. Clinton should've corrected the record right after 9-11 when corpmedia |
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first blamed him along with the GOP message machine. They've blamed him for five years now without any reply from Clinton in defense of himself or other Democrats who worked on terror issues throughout his terms.
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:15 PM
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14. Great! Woo Hoo! Wow!!!! Super!!!! K & R!!!! |
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Thu Sep-07-06 01:36 PM
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23. They can take the word "Docu" out!! |
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