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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:03 AM
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Snopes on Bush's "language"
Bush Explains Medicare Drug Bill — Verbatim Quote
Submitted on 2005-12-13

WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: 'I don't really understand. How is it the new plan going to fix the problem?'

Verbatim response: PRESIDENT BUSH:

'Because the — all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those — changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be — or closer delivered to that has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the — like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate — the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those — if that growth is affected, it will help on the red.'

Status: True.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:06 AM
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1. did he really say that word for word or are you paraphrasing?
thats pure snakeoil..add this to the bushism column...rotf
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:14 AM
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3. That was word for word
Which goes to show that when Boosh is off his teleprompter he shows himself for the complete idiot he is.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/muddled.asp
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:09 AM
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2. "It's kind of muddled" alright!
:eyes:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:15 AM
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4. WWHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
I Wanna REAL President!!!! Not this nonsense-double-talking-no-sense-making-snake-oil-selling-national-embarassment!!

WWHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:21 AM
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5. somewhere on this planet barbaraaa bush is saying, y'all don't understand
my brilliant son. ya'll are misunderestimators and disgruntled ingrates.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 07:15 AM
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11. Not to mention
his beautiful mind :)
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:22 AM
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20. which is ...
an extension of her own ...}(
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:21 AM
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6. But it wasn't the Medicare Drug Bill
It was his plan for SS.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:30 AM
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7. Y'know, he can't help it, because....see, it's like this
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 06:30 AM by JohnnyRingo
He thinks faster than his....No, he talks faster than his brain sees things that.....Wait!, he sees things in a way that his mouth speaks the things he hears that...Uhhh, no.....
His brain hears the things he speaks before his ears know what he said. No, thats after he speaks. Yeah, that's it.

I hope this clears up any confusion.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:31 AM
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8. Hey lighten up
it's hard work listening to the voices in his head and talking too. ;)
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 07:16 AM
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12. Hey JohnnyRingo
are you sure you are not shrub lurking under alias? That post of yours made a lot of sense (at least for a bush):)
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:50 AM
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16. Y'all have a visa for that country you visited where people talk like
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 08:50 AM by mcscajun
that? Let us know please, so we can send ol' Chimpy BACK THERE!
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:34 AM
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9. It`s official.....
After his training session on the Medicare bill, Bush remembered only two words..."cost drivers"...and nothing else. His handlers have to limit his impromptu answers to questions because with Bush, no teleprompter means no intelligible response.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 07:14 AM
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10. I thought hearing him was hell
reading him just made my eyes go cross-eyed trying to figure out what he is saying. What a moran.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:05 AM
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13. The guy's intellect only qualifies him to coherently respond in grunts.
Language skills are WAAAAY beyond his capabilities.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:22 AM
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14. Unbelievable
And yet the meda keep pretending that he's making sense.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:30 AM
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15. He sounds just like a guy in middle management who attended
all the meetings, but was daydreaming through nearly all of them, suddenly being called on to present the project to the CEO.

Lots of buzzwords, no comprehension; a man scrabbling desperately for the Exit.

And as another poster already said, he's Much More Painful to Read than to listen to. when you listen, your ears bleed and you want to claw your way into a another reality; when you Read him, your brain starts to scramble trying to decode his mangled, strangled syntax and deliver something coherent to your brain...I hate brain pain.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:55 AM
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17. That's what I was thinking!
He sounds like someone talked to him about all this, and he remembers some of the high-falutin' phrases, or parts of them, but he never did quite "get" what they mean. So he patches together all the things he remembers hearing and leaves it at that.

It's like a math test in school where you go for "partial credit" by writing down every fact and equation you can think of, even if it has nothing to do with the problem.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:04 AM
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18. You Can't Even Read A Coherent Thought Into It
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 09:05 AM by ThomWV
Even if it was just grammatical failure you should still be able to find some train of thought in the context ... but there is nothing there to work with, absolutely nothing.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:23 AM
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22. Nope, nary a one (thought, that is) Nada, Zero, Zip, Zilch...
No coherence, no point, no content, really.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:14 AM
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19. Another example of "fuzzy English" trying to disguise itself
as profound thought.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:22 AM
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21. Ow! My head hurts after reading that...
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 09:22 AM by Cooley Hurd
Any idea what he was actually TRYING to say?:crazy::shrug::dunce:
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:42 AM
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23. "There are too many honest people..." - yeah, he actually said this
I caught part of his January 19 speech after he went into a Q&A. Rove must have been cringing after he went off script.

Q (Inaudible) -- and the IRS does not spend a lot of time auditing. The last administration turned the IRS into a customer service department. And here, the last three years, it's been reorganized. There's quite a few people that do not comply. I really think that the IRS needs to get out there and audit. I hope none of my clients are here. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: That's a very unbelievably interesting statement from a -- (laughter.) No, but you've got a good point. Look, here's the point the man is saying. He's right. There are too many honest people -- first of all, there are people who feel like they don't have to pay taxes, and that's not fair to the millions of honest people who do. A tax system is -- (applause.)


Then this:

And so there's a series of ways to address the issue. But the truth of the matter is, government policy has got to aim at the increasing cost of health care.



See for yourselves:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/01/20060119-2.html

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:46 AM
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24. And that's why they screen audiences. Not anyone is smart enough
to understand heady stuff like this.
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