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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:05 AM
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False Flag Operations: Declassified Military Documents Show ......
......How US Government Planned Terrorist Attacks Against its Own Citizens

From Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/prweb/20060907/bs_prweb/prweb434292_2


Old habits die hard.:banghead:
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:11 AM
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1. Operation Northwoods.
Yep.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:13 AM
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2. yep
http://www.911blogger.com/node/2545

Towers of Deception: a review
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:14 AM
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3. There's PNAC's inspiration...among other things.
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:24 AM
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4. Not more Northwoods
As stupid as this plot was, I am not that even Lemnitzer was crazy enough to kill American citizens in any of these plots.

Even this part: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

could be acomplished by destroying a vacant ship and publishing FAKE casualty lists. Any claim to the contrary is just an assumption. Why do I not make that assumtion? Because the documents also detail an ELABORATE plot involving hijacked airliners that involve faking the deaths of the passengers. Why work in a very complex plan of swithing planes an remote piloting if not to AVOID casulties?
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QShok Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:29 AM
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11. Sounds familiar
Sinking of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_%28ACR-1%29#Causes_of_the_sinking>USS Maine has always made me wonder.

Shok
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:37 AM
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13. IIRC USS Maine
Was shown to have suffered a fatal boiler explosion rather than an act of sabotage.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:02 AM
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16. Yes, engineering studies show the Maine exploded from within, boiler
and it was blamed on the Spaniards to start the infamous Spanish-American war.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:55 AM
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15. did you read the article? "the ONLY reason" it didn't happen: Kennedy
turned it down.

i dunno -- seems like the investigative journo, zwicker, has done his homework and (lordy) written a book on the subject using the declassified docs.

speculation on Northwoods is now a thing of the past. we're in fact-land now.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:27 AM
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5. Good article
It certainly fits the Bush MO.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:31 AM
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6. Wow! And on Yahoo no less...
<snip>

Zwicker believes that the media must investigate and report on whether these fear-based psychological manipulation techniques have been or are being put into application by US leaders in our post 9/11 world, as they appear to be. 9/11 caused much trauma and fear.

Concerned with the direction that the US has headed since 9/11, Dr. Robert M. Bowman, referring to the Bush / Cheney administration during a radio interview, said: "I think there's been nothing closer to fascism than what we've seen lately from this government.” http://www.govinfo.bnet-newmedia.co.uk/opinions_Articles.php?IDVal=50

Bowman is a retired United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, a recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, a former head of the US "Star Wars" space weapons program during the Reagan administration and one of America’s foremost experts on National Security.

He commented about the Patriot Act as having, "Done more to destroy the rights of Americans than all of our enemies combined."

Bowman is part of a group of notable experts called the "Scholars For 9/11 Truth" made up of professors, engineers, former intelligence and military personnel, journalists, attorneys and many other professionals who say that the 9/11 attacks raise a red flag because they have many elements of false flag operations, such as a "stand-down" of the military defense on that day, one that must be questioned.

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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:02 AM
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7. (Yawn)...Northwoods was "news" on DU two years ago...welcome to the show..
...Old Media.

And read Nance's latest Rant:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/NanceGreggs/84
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:48 AM
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14. wake up sleepyhead -- it's news now b/c Yahoo is covering it now
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:05 AM
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17. Not exactly
it's a press release about Barrie Zwicker's new book, which refers to a 5-year old article by ABC news (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 ).

You'll note that you can't "rate this article up" like most Yahoo articles.

Having said all this, I still think it's great that this is getting wider coverage one way or the other.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:05 AM
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8. One word - Anthrax. n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:11 AM
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9. I've always thought it was the Pentagon who killed Kennedy!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:14 AM
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10. Operation Gladio n/t
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:35 AM
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12. Gladio? Someone say Gladio?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:52 AM
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21. The NAZI connection
http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/operation_gladio.htm

World War Two had barely ground to a final halt when, in 1947, Allied strategists set about planning for World War Three. Even as British and US intelligence officials scoured Europe seeking to apprehend Nazi’s wanted on war crimes charges, other more secretive US and British intelligence units were actively engaged in helping those same Nazi’s to escape.

The means of escape were the Vatican run “Ratlines.” Operated with the knowledge and blessing of highly placed US and British government officials, the Ratlines guided 30,000 wanted Nazi’s to sanctuary. Safe haven locations included the US, Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the favourite bolt hole of them all: South America.

Those who reached safety in this manner read like a “Who’s Who” of the most wanted Nazi war criminals. Klaus Barbie, the cruel Gestapo officer known as the “Butcher of Lyons;” Franz Stangl, Commandant of the notorious Treblinka extermination camp; Gustav Wagner Commandant of Sorbibor extermination camp; Alois Brunner, a brutal official in the Jewish deportation programme. Of the most famous to escape along the ratlines were Adolf Eichmann, the chief architect of the “Holoucast” and Dr Joseph Mengele, the “White Angel” of Auschwitz concentration camp. Not least was Deputy Fuhrer Martin Bormann. Incredibly, an entire Waffen SS division - the notorious “Galician Division” - consisting of 8000 men were smuggled to England and given “free settler” status.

Secretly granted immunity these and thousands of other battle hardened Nazi soldiers were to form the fighting nucleus of a top secret Allied contingency group conceived by the first Director of the CIA, Allen Dulles. Loosely known as operation “Stay Behind,” the idea was to build a Europe wide secret network of anti communist guerrillas who would fight behind the lines in the event of a Soviet invasion. The plan was later codified under the umbrella of the Clandestine Co-ordinating Committee of the Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE), the military arm of NATO.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:15 PM
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23. Ratlines: The CIA and The Nazis
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/ratlines.htm

Fwiw, President Clinton's administration prosecuted Nazis and apologized for "cold war excesses".
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:58 AM
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18. I doesn't matter...
...government conspiracies are impossible. We've been assured of that by smart people - you know, the "reality based" community.

But conspiracies by guys in caves with no phones being hunted and watched by every intelligence agency on the planet are not only possible, they are the official narrative...

See, it's simple...

Conspiracies by good guys: impossible.

Conspiracies by bad guys: business as usual.

I'm glad we cleared that up...
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:21 AM
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19. Tinfoil, anyone?
:tinfoilhat:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:57 AM
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20. Things like MH CHAOS have continued for decades eom.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:07 PM
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22. Of course referencing MHCHAOS opens up all kinds of once "forbidden"
subjects like domestic surveillance, psychological operations, propaganda and mind control.

Here are some related links.

MHCHAOS etc. from Randi Rhodes Show forum
http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/lofiversion/index.php/t95847.html

Domestic spying links from Source Watch
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Domestic_spying

It is time to seriously discuss these subjects.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:21 PM
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24. Good night kick.
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CAG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:48 PM
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25. If any of these creeps were alive today, they would be Faux news
retired military consultants.

Anyone who thinks that its laughable that govt entities could potentially have contributed to Kennedy's assassination has some 'splainin' to do after they read up on this stuff.
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