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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:03 AM
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ABC's ad for PT9/11 has flag desecration
This post just up at Atrios has this image of an ad that ABC ran in the Cedar Rapids, Iowa, paper today:

Sure looks like they damaged an American flag for that ad, doesn't it. What will we tell our children??
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:05 AM
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1. Why does Photoshop hate America?
:rofl:
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:51 AM
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14. LOL!!
:rofl:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:06 AM
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2. I assume that is that traitor Bill Clinton who cut the flag to look
through it while trying to hide his crimes against this country?


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:10 AM
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3. This ad is better...
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 09:11 AM by displacedtexan

(Source: Needlenose)

Also from the link:

This is what it's about, right? The only reason a conglomerate like Disney/ABC would consider broadcasting false propaganda like "Path to 9/11" is that a desperate Corleone Bush administration quietly hinted at a lucrative post-election legislative/policy reward.

Keep making your feelings known to ABC Television and/or former Sen. George Mitchell, who is Disney's chairman of the board. Thanks!


I didn't know about George Mitchell.

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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:04 AM
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6. Not sure what this means yet:
"At the federal and state level in the US, and in the individual countries of Europe as well as the E.U., our people understand the legislative and regulatory process. To the strengths of our team, which includes our chairman, Senator George J. Mitchell, we add our alliance with The Cohen Group, the international business consulting firm."

http://www.dlapiper.com/global/services/detail.aspx?service=74

Anyone know?
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:19 AM
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7. The Cohen Group
The Cohen Group
From SourceWatch

The Cohen Group is a Washington D.C. lobbying company headed by former U.S. Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen.

The company which was launched in January 2001 "with the objective of helping multinational clients explore opportunities overseas as well as solve problems that may develop".

On its website The Cohen Group states that it has a "strategic alliance with DLA Piper Rudnick Gray Cary, a global law firm specializing in business, real estate and technology, empowers The Cohen Group with the unique ability to provide our clients with truly comprehensive tools for understanding and shaping their business, political, legal, regulatory, and media environments."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=The_Cohen_Group
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:21 AM
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8. William Sebastian Cohen
William Sebastian Cohen
From SourceWatch
(Redirected from William S. Cohen)

William Sebastian Cohen is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the The Cohen Group, a Washington D.C. lobbying company founded in 2001.

Cohen served as Secretary of Defense during the William Jefferson Clinton administration (97-01). Formerly a Republican U.S. Senator from Maine, Cohen was a member of the "Board of Directors of the Council on Foreign Relations from 1989 to 1997, whose Middle East Study Group he chaired. He has chaired and served on numerous other study groups and committees at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, the School for Advanced International Studies, and the Brookings Institute."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=William_S._Cohen
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:26 AM
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10. The Council of Foreign Relations
History

The CFR dates back to 1921, and in 1996 published its history, available on its website (http://www.cfr.org/about/grosse00a.php).

The membership of the CFR includes past Presidents, Ambassadors, Secretaries of State, Wall Street investors, international bankers, foundation executives, think tank executives, lobbyist lawyers, NATO and Pentagon military leaders, wealthy industrialists, journalists, media owners and executives, university presidents and key professors, select Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices, Federal Judges, wealthy entrepreneurs, and as many as ten 9-11 Commission Members. <1> (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2807/SPEciaL.html) <2> (http://100777.com/doc/734)

Due perhaps more to its origins, associations, and history, than to its current composition and activities, the CFR does have a reputation as one of the "triumvirate of elite organizations" together with the Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission. Elitism doesn't necessarily preclude the ability to provide unbiased and useful service however. <3> (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Council_Foreign_Relations.htm)

Carroll Quigley, Professor of History at Georgetown University, stated, "The Council of Foreign Relations is the American Branch of a society which originated in England and believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established." <4> (http://www.maxexchange.com/ybj/chapter13.htm)

They hold regular private meetings including members, and very select guests. Occasionally they will hold a public meeting, and invite the open press (including C-SPAN). The image of the CFR as a closed-shop bi-partisan discussion forum for the foreign policy establishment has fuelled criticism that the organisation and its members are controlling world policy and events.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_on_Foreign_Relations
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:30 AM
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11. Center for Strategic and International Studies
From SourceWatch

The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) is a private organization headquartered in Washington, D.C. According to its web site, it has "been dedicated to providing world leaders with strategic insights on — and policy solutions to — current and emerging global issues. CSIS is led by John J. Hamre, formerly deputy secretary of defense, who has been president and CEO since April 2000." <1> (http://www.csis.org/about/index.htm)

Originally CSIS sprung out from Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service, and many of principals were also faculty members at the university. For some time CSIS had an office on the Georgetown campus. Several of the principals were "Cold Warriors" and made a little industry out of finding "communist influence" around the world. During the war against Nicaragua, CSIS produced several documents "proving" a communist plot, etc. For many years, CSIS was also seen as a think tank where right-wing "officials-in-waiting" could wait until their next appointment in government.

CSIS is dominated by members with strong ties to the government and private industry. Sam Nunn, CSIS Chairman of the Board of Trustees, served as U.S. Senator from Georgia for 24 years (1972-1996) and is currently on the boards of top US corporations and a law firm.


... "one of those ephemeral constellations into which the luminaries of the American political establishment frequently arrange themselves in order to encourage policy to navigate by their lights: Madeleine K. Albright, Harold Brown, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Frank Charles Carlucci III, Warren Christopher, William Sebastian Cohen, Bob Dole, Lawrence Sidney Eagleburger, Stuart Eizenstat, Alexander Haig, Lee H. Hamilton, John Hamre, Sam Nunn, Paul O'Neill, Charles S. Robb, William Roth, and James Rodney Schlesinger. That makes four former Secretaries of State, one former National Security Adviser, two former Secretaries for Defense, a former Secretary of the Treasury, a former Secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, a former Director of the CIA, and three Senators"; ... signatories to a May 2003 Declaration (http://csis.org/europe/2003_May_14_JointDeclr.pdf) which effectively proposed, in the opinion of one commentator, that "the states of the European Union, which are among the richest and most powerful states in the world, should invite US government officials to attend their highest-level legislative and policy-making meetings, in order that these officials can ensure that the Europeans do not pursue policies which are independent of, or disapproved by, the American government."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Strategic_and_International_Studies
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:35 AM
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12. Brookings Institution
From SourceWatch
(Redirected from Brookings Institute)

The Brookings Institution, whose predecessor was founded in 1918 by Robert Brookings, was probably the first think tank in the USA.

On its website the organisation traces its origins "to 1916, when a group of leading reformers founded the Institute for Government Research (IGR), the first private organization devoted to analyzing public policy issues at the national level. In 1922 and 1924, one of IGR's backers, Robert Somers Brookings (1850-1932), established two supporting sister organizations: the Institute of Economics and a graduate school bearing his name. In 1927, the three groups merged to form the Brookings Institution, honoring the businessman from St. Louis whose leadership shaped the earlier organizations."

Initially centrist, the Institution took its first step rightwards during the depression, in response to the New Deal. In the 1960s, it was linked to the conservative wing of the Democratic party, backing Keynsian economics. From the mid-70s it cemented a close relationship with the Republican party. Since the 1990s it has taken steps further towards the right in parallel with the increasing influence of right-wing think tanks such as the Heritage Foundation.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Brookings_Institute
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:49 AM
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13. Who financed the ABC movie? Maybe:
n 2002, Haim Saban pledged $13 million to start a research organization at the Brookings Institution called the Saban Center for Middle East Policy. To put this Policy Center into perspective one should note:

* the Brookings Institute is the principal Democratic Party think-tank and all issues, and it is a place where "politicians in-waiting" can bide their time until the next election.
* Haim Sabban is a large media mogul, with large interests in the US, and his company is the largest broadcaster in Germany (owns "ProSiebenSat.1 Media, putting him in control of a company that owns the rough equivalent of CBS, ABC, TBS and Nickelodeon")
* Saban is a "I'm a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel".

It is difficult to imagine that the Brookings-Saban Center will be a think-tank that will represent or research the Middle East with the interests of the broad base of the Democratic party in mind.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Brookings_Institute

So even if the 9/11 movie is pro-BushCo, could it be ABC is airing it because it is pro-Israel?
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:00 AM
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15. Haim Saban
'''Haim Saban''' (born March 26, 1944, Alexandria, Egypt) is a television producer who is perhaps best known for bringing the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers to the United States of America. He is also a strong supporter of the United States Democratic Party, and, during the era of soft money, was one of the largest donors to the party. Most other soft-money donors have dropped off the list following the ban on soft money (see campaign finance reform), but Saban adapted to the new fundraising rules and is one of the top bundlers of legal campaign checks as well. Saban was at one point the CEO of Fox Family Worldwide and remains an influential individual in the Fox organization, although Fox Family Worldwide was eventually sold to Disney. Saban also worked on music for cartoons like Inspector Gadget, the Get Along Gang, Rainbow Brite, and the Real Ghostbusters As of August 2003 his Saban Capital Group (which is purely an investment company: it holds stakes in media owners but doesn't publish or broadcast anything itself) - through its subsidiary - acquired 36 percent of the share capital of ProSiebenSat.1 Media AG. Since then, Saban is the chairman of the corporation. ProSiebenSat.1 Media AG is Germany's largest television corporation comprising four free TV stations and many smaller media sales, production, merchandising etc. companies. Since May 2005 he has been a contributing blogger at The Huffington Post.

http://haim-saban.ask.dyndns.dk/
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:17 AM
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18. His political contributions:
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:46 AM
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21. he only donated $13 million to Democrats. What a NeoCon!!!
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:55 PM
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22. So?
That doesn't mean he doesn't support the pro-Israel side of the party, not that there is anything wrong with that. But.. if he thought the film was pro-Israel rather than anti-Dem, he might have financed it. He is a staunch Lieberman supporter.

I'm not saying he did since we don't know for sure who did yet. But connecting all those dots does imply why Disney/ABC might support the movie. That's all, only guessing.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:23 AM
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4. Wait a minute -- "EVERYTHING that might have prevented it" ?!
So they take exception to Condi's statements (under oath) that there "was no silver bullet that could have prevented 911." ? And "no one could have imagined using airplanes as missles"? And they will have extended scenes of Condi and B*sh refusing to read the DBM infamously entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike within the US" ! etc. etc

Awesome -- Finally the truth will come out!

:sarcasm:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:25 AM
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5. Hard to say those don't look like george's eyes.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:22 AM
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9. Pouf! Your wish is my command!
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:04 AM
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16. Excellent photoshoping!
And sorry for "hijacking" the thread. That Sen. George Mitchell connection got me searching.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:05 AM
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17. Great Job
and perfect analogy...
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:51 PM
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23. Good one! I hope you posted it in its own thread.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:19 AM
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19. Who is that peeking through? nt
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:28 AM
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20. My guess is "swarthy male" of the Muslim persuasion
Plays on our fears at many levels.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:59 PM
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24. Weird
The exact same graphic appeared on the ad for a new Discovery Channel program that's airing on Sept. 10. It's called the "Price of Security" & will be hosted by Ted Koppel. In the promo ad, you see the "swarthy male" ripping the American flag & peering though it. It's an animated version of the picture above. Coincidence or coordination, I dunno. Just wanted to add that.
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