Suppose bin Laden had been killed during Clinton's administration

[treestar]

Why would that have stopped the attacks? Wasn't there always number 2 man, Al Zarqawi, to step up and continue Al Qaeda? Wasn't it a big deal when he was killed in Iraq recently?

* would have done the same stupid stuff he did during his first 9 months on vacation - er, in office - why would Al Qaeda abandon the attacks just because Osama had died? They would not.

Another thing - point out bin Laden still has not been accounted for. * has had as many years as Clinton to find him.

[Kierkegaard]

1. At last count, there were 40 #2s waiting for their turn to run the show...

[treestar]

2. #3 had already been identified

And moved up to #2, as soon as Al Zarqawi was killed for the umpteenth time.

[dipsydoodle]

6. I think you'll find it's 44

That's enough for four soccer teams. They've got their own league. :rofl:

[CJCRANE]

3. Zarqawi

wasn't even part of al-Qaeda before "shock and awe". He had his own two-bit terror organisation which was protected by the northern no-fly zone (Saddma couldn't get at him.

Zawahiri is the #2 al-Qaeda guy, he's hiding out in Pakistan.

[treestar]

4. OK, but in the 90s somebody must have been the #2 guy

presumably Al Qaeda does not fall apart just because bin Laden dies. Yet that is what this blame-911-on-Clinton position asserts. In which case, why did * say bin Laden was "irrelevant?"

[CJCRANE]

5. Yes, it was Zawahiri

the Egyptian guy. He's the brains behind al-Qaeda, bin Laden is just the figurehead.

[treestar]

20. So that even if binLaden had been killed during the 90s, the 911

attack would have been planned.

[Ezlivin]

7. The key to the 9/11 attacks is Cheney, Rumsfeld and other PNACers

They wanted a "new Pearl Harbor", they needed it, they coveted it and, wow, a lucky coincidence had it happen while they were in power.

Bin Laden was simply a tool. If not him, then some other "CIA asset gone wild."

[CJCRANE]

9. They used a combination

of Saudi and Pakistani assets (the 9/11 mastermind was in Pakistan).

"You stage a false flag terror attack with the agents you have, not the agents you'd like to have", to paraphrase Rumsfeld.

That's why they couldn't use Iraqis, because they had no leverage or contacts in Iraq.

[treestar]

14. Exactly, which is what makes their whole blame-Clinton thing

irrelevant. If Al Qaeda is as scary as they say it is, it would survive killing its leader. Regroup as something just as bad. The right wingnuts talk as if killing this one guy would have saved the US from 911, while at the same time claiming Osama is "irrelevant" or whatever stupid thing is was that * recently said about him.

[Crabby Appleton]

8. Might not have made any difference

depends on the timing, 9/11 was a Khalid Sheikh Mohammed operation.

[treestar]

15. In which case, the death of bin Laden would not have prevented it

[zbdent]

10. The point would be that Clinton was making his people keep an

eye on what was going on ... ObL's gang was unable to operate in the US under Clinton because the US operatives were PAYING ATTENTION!!!

Once Bush got into office, the US operatives were pulled to find missing "W" keys from keyboards and were off sniffing Gary Condit's underwear drawers ...

[BeautifulLoser]

11. Yes it would have

Clinton tried hard to catch Bin Laden and bring him to justice

[TahitiNut]

12. Well, how about the fact that there's still insufficient evidence

... to actually try bin Laden before a court of law?? That's what stuns me. All the rhetoric and still we'd fail to convict if we were to rely on "due process"??? Abominable.

[treestar]

16. Then we have Chimpy saying he is "irrelevant" too

Yet this stupid "docu-drama" is based on the idea he is all important.

[Parche]

13. number

Bush is the number 2guy, because Cheney is the number 1guy
Rumsfuher is the number 3guy waiting in the wings.........

[treestar]

17. Hehee if I were good with computer graphics I would do a pic

of Cheney in middle eastern garb.

[Disturbed]

18. "The United States of Amnesia" -Gore vidal

In the Kerry/Bush Debate Bush denied not being concerned with Osama.
The next day a video surface with Bush saying the following.

"I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him."

[treestar]

19. Yet this is his opposite number, who declared "war" on the US

Maybe this is a show of bravado.

We know Chimpy is very brave. :sarcasm:

[Beelzebud]

21. They'd call Clinton a murderer, fascist, and terrorist if he had done that

They were too busy worrying about blow jobs.

[treestar]

22. Exactly. There is no way they will ever admit Bill Clinton did the

right thing on anything. In fact, at the time, they were against his anti-terrorism suggestions.