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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:29 AM
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HA HA HA AMERICA (short film)
http://festival.sundance.org/2006/watch/film.aspx?which=402&category=DOC

this needs to be seen by everyone - please distribute widely
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:49 AM
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1. That is brilliant.
Fucking painful to watch.

"America next step to place order for disproportionate foam hand that exclaim We #2!"
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:57 AM
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2. Nice, but China is next for a CEO government,
while most Chineese work as virtual slaves in sweatshops for 14ct/hr.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:09 AM
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5. The film admits this and states that the sweatshop owners say
"Go Fuck Yourself" to anyone who complains about it. The sweatshop owners admire Dick Cheney for this attitude.

Maybe you missed it Watch the whole thing,
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:24 AM
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6. you're correct,
i responded before having seen all of it.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:06 AM
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3. great film..thanks...nt
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:09 AM
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4. I got the music, but no picture
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:25 AM
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7. Same here. Mac too?
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:27 PM
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13. Mac OS 9.2.2
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:50 PM
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19. OS X here - faring same.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:48 PM
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24. It worked on my Mac
OS X 3.9
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:03 PM
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10. Same here, Windoze 2K and firefox. n/t
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:33 AM
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8. After watching this I wonder how many go
running to Wal-mart and put another nail into americas coffin? There lays the real problem, americans sold out their brothers a long time ago, first to Japan and now to RED China. Stupid americans is right.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:25 PM
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12. Even patriotic stuff is from China
Quite sad eh? I believe I read in another thread that they even make the "Made in USA" tags but take off their "made in China" label on some things.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:33 AM
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9. Anybody here know if it is available anywhere else? They don't have the
bandwidth to stream it, I just tried 8 times and never got past the opening shot.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:15 PM
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11. mirror here - > LINK
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:06 PM
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33. "America just rounding error to China"
That's true for the popluation AND the economy.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:28 PM
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35. That's ironic I had monkey tail for lunch
How going killing fear?

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 10:02 AM
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48. Thanks for the mirror, enjoyed the flick but think it goes over the heads
of those that should see it.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:31 PM
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14. Except Bush isn't a hillbilly.
As a real hillbilly (hills of East Tennessee), I take offense to that stupid faux Connecticut redneck being called a hillbilly.

But, the rest of the film is interesting.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:45 PM
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15. Jeez, does that thing ever end?
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yknot Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:59 PM
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16. Ouch! The unvarnished truth. n/t
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:05 PM
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17. This is why
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 02:07 PM by thefool_wa
We need to keep China from getting to the moon. If China ever establishes a moon base, if we haven't destroyed ourselves already, they will rain moon rocks on us and use russian oil to invade our destroyed cities, then we all start speaking Chinese. The Dark Future is now and so much of what was sci-fi for the past 100 years has become reality that I don't think this is as far fetched as one might think at first glance.

It sounds paranoid, but look around you. They would never be able to make a beach head today, but they are a patient people and they think generationally (unlike we here in the US who barely think past tomorrow). Our shortsightedness is going to be our undoing and they will pounce on us as soon as 1) our economy collapses 2) we descend into true revolution 3) They establish a militarized moon base.

They don't want to do it tomorrow, they will wait decades to do it if they have to, but they are preparing for it today (check out Rummy's trip to China late last year, it wasn't a social visit, we don't send the secretary of defense to drink tea and eat dim sum).
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:23 PM
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20. !
A moon rock assault?

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:38 PM
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23. !
:spray: :hide: :rofl:
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:11 PM
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38. You can laugh now..
Read "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert Heinlein - you'll see what I am talking about. Maybe Sci-Fi, but its something to think about.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:10 PM
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37. You can laugh now...
Read "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert Heinlein - you'll see what I am talking about. Maybe Sci-Fi, but its something to think about.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:31 PM
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39. there's plenty non-fiction to think about
Besides, the whole "it's either them or us so let's get them before they get us" attitude isn't very becoming of a liberal. It's the pervasive line of thinking in foreign policy these days - ever since the neocons took over.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 05:12 PM
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41. I'm not saying we
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 05:17 PM by thefool_wa
we need to get them before they get us, I am only saying we need to defend our moon. Even then, I am saying that with only the smallest shred of seriousness.

You are right, plenty of non fiction to worry about, which is why (per my points that have nothing to do with the moon) we need to tend our garden before we are, in fact, ripe for an invasion on the scale China is capable of.

The nuclear deterrent gets weaker and weaker with each passing decade as more and more people realize that no one in the civilized world will ever use one again. If they invaded, while we could meet them in the pacific and try to hold them off, with our armed forces spread to the four corners of the globe and almost NO National Guard inside our borders, if we do descend into revolution that could be all she wrote.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 10:40 PM
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44. "our" moon? LOL
that reveals a lot about your attitude.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 10:45 AM
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50. Good, I'm not trying to conceal a thing
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 10:47 AM by thefool_wa
Our flag is there, we got there first, and, laugh if you like, but in 100 years when WWV or WWVI is being fought and there are populated colonies up there it will be an instrumental weapon. A piece of moon rock weighing no more than a semi-truck can be catapulted at earth with relatively no energy (compared to earthside launch). It will escape and just fall, faster and faster, until it can obliterate a good portion of a city. All you need is an electromagnetic propulsion system a little more powerful than a roller-coaster launcher and BLAM! (this is sci-fi only in application, all of the technology exists today to make this weapon, all you need to do is get it to the moon)

Again, the Chinese think generationally and we can't see past the end of our own noses half the time. They will bide their time, especially if we ignore them or think they are our friends, and then one day we will say "WTF! I never thought of dropping Moon rocks on LA, San Francisco, and Seattle to pave way for an invasion. I wish we had stopped them before they started."

Should we stop their space program, no. Should we prevent them from going to the moon, no. Should we get back up there first and establish both research and militarized outposts, absolutely. We don't have to be the aggressors, we just need to build our own defenses against the most powerful non-nuclear weapon known to man.

You can laugh if you want, it won't happen tomorrow or even (probably) in my life time. But mark my words, we need to have this type of thing online as a deterrent long before anyone else does.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 10:08 AM
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49. My favorite Heinlein novel, but they will destroy us far more simply
than by going all the way to the moon to hurl rocks into the gravity well, which BTW would destroy China as well.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 01:36 AM
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51. It could go either way
And if done right, you never know.

You're probably right, but I still think we should get back there first and make sure that we are one step ahead on anything going on up there. Just to be safe.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:06 PM
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32. Isn't it peculiar the US corporate world is in fact enabling China
to become the next super power?

This may sound paranoid, but we've got to wonder who exactly really are our enemies.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:05 PM
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36. I've stopped wondering that LONG ago.
Hint, lurking freepers: your REAL terrorist enemies are the same color as you, live here, wear tailored suits, make 500 times as much as you and have advantages that could fill an encyclopedia on their side to keep you poor and them exponentially richer. And they'll destroy our country physically and economically to keep it that way. And if that means turning weapons on it's own people, SO BE IT.

STOP pretending that these fuckers are on your side, working class. Political and Religious CEOs wipe their collective asses with what you need.

You think they LIKED what happened in the 90s? Not on your life. They HATE it when the penny-ante players gain ANYTHING; whether it be job market advantage, stock market gains, new businesses, etc. ALL of that is a threat to their little castle country club. A fearful and poor population is an OBEDIENT and UNQUESTIONING population. Have you freepfucks EVER taken a history class? What the neo-clowns are doing now is nothing different than what feudal lords, oligarchs, dictators, fascists and robber barons have been doing for centuries. The only dissimilarity is the absence of physical abuse on their own citizenry. Everything else is the damned same, and as much as you tards would like to believe you're on the winning side, here's a giant punch to the face:

YOU'RE NOT AND YOU NEVER WILL BE. SCHMUCK..
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 08:16 PM
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43. I am one of you. Am I not just one of you? He lies.
You Can't Go Home Again by Thomas Wolfe.


I think the enemy comes to us with the face of innocence and says to us:

“I am your friend.”

I think the enemy deceives us with false words and lying phrases, saying:

“See, I am one of you – I am one of your children, your son, your brother, and your friend. Behold how sleek and fat I have become – and all because I am just one of you, and your friend. Behold how rich and powerful I am – and all because I am one of you – shaped in your way of life, of thinking, of accomplishment. What I am, I am because I am one of you, your humble brother, your friend. Behold,” cries Enemy, “the man I am, the man I have become, the thing I have accomplished – and reflect. Will you destroy this thing? I assure you that it is the most precious thing you have. It is yourselves, the projection of each of you, the triumph of your individual lives, the thing that is rooted in your blood, and native to your stock, and inherent in the traditions of America. It is the thing that all of you may hope to be,” says Enemy, “for –“ humbly – “am I not just one of you? Am I not just your brother and your son? Am I not the living image of what each of you may hope to be, would wish to be, would desire for his own son? Would you destroy this glorious incarnation of your own heroic self? If you do, then,” says Enemy, “you destroy yourselves – you kill the thing that is most gloriously American, and in so killing, kill yourselves.”

He lies! And now we know he lies! He is not gloriously, or in any other way, ourselves. He is not our friend, our son, our brother. And he is not American! For, although he has a thousand familiar and convenient faces, his own true face is old as Hell.

Look about you and see what he has done.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 10:45 PM
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45. "I think the enemy comes to us with the face of innocence and says to us:
“I am your friend.”"

That's... powerful.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:22 AM
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46. That was an excellent book.
I highly recommend it.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:19 PM
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18. Hillbilly Everywhere Must See
how China laughing at US.

thanks for posting
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:33 PM
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21. Makes me want to proudly proclaim that from now on I'll only
buy AMERICAN! Too bad there isn't anything like that left to buy...
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 06:27 AM
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27. http://www.madeinusa.org/ is a listing of USA made products
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:34 PM
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22. Absolutely hilarious, and frightening too
"How war on fear going? Maybe bomb anxiety first. Work way up to fear."

"HA HA HA America!"
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 06:06 PM
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25. The wealthy of this country fully realize it, and DO NOT CARE!
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 06:07 PM by HughBeaumont
Americans! Insulted that you're being called "hillbillies" on that film? Truth fucking hurts, doesn't it? Lurking freepers, this is aimed at you, you dumb moron TARDS. Keep voting unbridled capitalist enablers into office and keep losing your damned jobs. What will it take to FINALLY make you see that the bill of goods you're being sold by the Republiclowns is a joke that's being played on you election after election after election?

The only people that fear a terrorist attack SO much are those who aint'a gonna ever HAVE one. No one is going to bomb Pigtit, Kansas. NO one.

The only people that fear two people of the same gender not living a lie and being happy are those who will most likely NEVER encounter even one homosexual.

Meanwhile, your fear and hatred of someone or something and your steadfast desire to believe and have the utmost faith in this fucking idiot you put into office and the corporations that sponsor him and stole his election for him is the reason CHINA IS KILLING US.

And you have no one. NO. FUCKING. ONE. TO BLAME BUT YOURSELVES.

YOU made an open-and-shut election close enough for them to steal.

YOU bow to these fuckers without question.

YOU refute facts to believe someone's fucked interpretation of a novel and want to indoctrinate this novel into every aspect of your lives.

YOU let daddy read you bedtime stories and can tuck your comforted selves in at night knowing your safe from ANYONE who has skin even slightly to the right of pink.

And YOU will end up paying the price for consuming shit, buying shit, settling for a shit government and economy and continuing to do so.

HA HA HA HA HA HA, DUMBERICA.

How's that war going, indeed?
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:20 AM
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26. nice rant :D
bump for the late night crowd
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:20 PM
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29. I mean, HOW many times does one have to get punched in the face
before they figure out how to block or move their head? We weren't the ones who made these people too dumb to understand how a proto-fascist Corpor-ocracy works and why voting for it every time is lame-brained and against their best interests. That's their school's and their parent's fault.

Yet we're all going to be paying for it. And that's what's so unfair about it all.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 05:22 PM
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42. Too bad it can't be just the
dumb, moron TARDS who will pay the price.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 07:30 AM
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28. "Maybe america should apply intelligent design
to economic policy"

ROFLMAO!
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:56 PM
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30. The Sundance Organizers Underestimated the Traffic :D
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 12:57 PM by bushmeat
bumpin it for the lunch crowd
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:03 PM
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31. The Statement this Film Makes Needs to be HEARD BY EVERY AMERICAN!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:13 PM
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34. America No Make anything China want to Buy
China sell temporary lasting lemonade stand to America, 210 dollar 50 penny
China agree to buy much lemonade, say 34 dollar worth?
China make that deal all day long.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:03 PM
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40. I'd recommend if I could
"You suck ass - Go fuck yourself" WOW! THAT was intense!
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:47 AM
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47. Chilling film
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