The Backlash Cometh
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:09 AM
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Local church reminded parishoners of Roe v. Wade. |
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My dad went to church this morning and said that they announced that Roe v. Wade's anniversary is tomorrow. The speaker said that there were papers in the back of the church and to take one on the way out and vote accordingly. My dad didn't take one, but has anyone experienced this in their churches?
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:12 AM
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Interesting. I think churches should have to give up their tax exempt status once they dabble in politics. Not that this is some new concept here. I just like repeating it.
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:21 AM
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5. That's how I understood it, but I'm giving it to you second hand. |
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The actual words could have been "act" accordingly. I definitely got the impression that those papers instructed the parishoners to do something.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:23 PM
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19. I think with this person |
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he's kind of not really preaching politics from the pulpit but handing out things as well. He doesn't make someone do it so he still thinks it's okay. I just can't stand it quite frankly. It's like the only time when Jesus got mad was because people were doing business in a church. He threw them out (not physically of course) and told them his father's house shall be a house of worship and prayer for everyone. Not business. If Jesus was a live today he'd be preaching out against this I'm sure. "Give that which is Ceaser's unto Ceaser and that which is God's unto God."
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:13 AM
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My most recent church is pretty much 50/50 politically, so we didn't discuss politics. Which, sadly, is one of the reasons I left. I got tired of keeping my mouth shut.
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:22 AM
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6. Unfortunately, my close family is beginning to show signs of asking |
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me to tone down my political views so as not to offend the right-winger in my family. It makes me less inclined to be with them.
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FreedomAngel82
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:25 PM
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20. I would be happy with that |
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Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 12:25 PM by FreedomAngel82
I go to church for spiritual uplifting, worship, praise and fellowship with other like minded people who agree with me spiritually. If I want to hear preaching about politics I'd go to a local town hall meeting or something. In a Bible class or outside of the worship service I could care less, but not during and from the pulpit. So disappointing.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:45 PM
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I don't want to hear a political talk from the pulpit, one way or another, anymore than the next person.
However, because of who I am, I would like to be able to at least talk about ti whenever we get together in small groups or just visiting. Which in my last situation was something you just didn't do. Ever.
Sorry, I'm not in the mood for it anymore, for that an several other reasons.
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:14 AM
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3. Get over there. Get the voting "papers". Give them to the IRS and the |
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media.
If we taxed these churches we could balance the budget.
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:23 AM
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7. If they're still there tomorrow, we'll try. |
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:37 AM
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11. wishing you success, I too would like to know what the papers say |
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:24 AM
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9. I'm doing my taxes this weekend, looking at my charitable giving... |
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... for the year. Not a dime of the money I gave to Mass Equality and the Human Rights Campaign to defend marriage fairness in Massachusetts is tax-deductible. Not a penny of it will show up on my tax form.
And yet the other side in this battle is funded largely by the catholic church. And money given to that corrupt organization is entirely deductible.
Nice, huh?
Then, to add insult to injury, somewhere down the line a study of IRS records will "prove" that "religious" people do more charitable giving than us terrible atheists and secularists. The proof is right there on the tax forms, right?
:puke:
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LibDemAlways
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:20 AM
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4. My husband's wingnut, single-issue aunt |
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passes out these not even thinly disguised "voter pamphlets" near her church at election time. Her pastor told her she may not distribute them on church property - which pisses her off to no end.
And yes, Catholic priests throughout the US will make note of the Roe V. Wade decision today and call abortion evil and stress the "sanctity of human life" that the church promotes. And most will remain silent the next time a person is executed and the next time the repukes slash programs that help the poor and the next time a victim of a pedophile priest comes forward and so on...
There's a great deal of hypocrisy in the institutional Church.
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:24 AM
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8. Yes, it was a Catholic Church. |
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:00 PM
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13. Not to sound disrespectful. . . |
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but I would love for someone in the parish to approach the minister with a nice flyer when the anniversary of the first publicly divulged Church sexual abuse scandal arrives again. . .with a statement to "act" accordingly in response. . .sorry, but I have great difficulty accepting that a "church" with over 10,000 reports of such abuse among it's clergy over the past 50 years should be considered anyone's "moral" compass.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:03 PM
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:22 PM
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:27 PM
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:02 PM
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14. Actually, one thing we should be doing about this political |
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activism is to contact the county election officials and start complaining that, because the church is so politically active, you feel as if you are required to go vote in a Republican meeting hall. If enough people do that, the county will have to figure out some other voting location for a lot of precincts.
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:25 AM
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10. sheeit, churches around here have pictures of aborted fetus |
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for kids and all to be outraged with, after a sunday sermon on ????? christ, love, sinnin, forgiveness?????? to walk away in rage. feeding the rage
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:51 AM
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12. RC churches observe that anniversary nationally |
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As far as I know, every Roman Catholic church in the US pointed out that anniversary today. It is a directive from the Bishops, I beleive. As to "vote accordingly", the RC's may say you should consider the impact of Roe v Wade but it is doubtful anyone is going to be that obvious. There is literature available, for example, but it is not distributed during the service, or anything like that.
Catholics will vote the way they choose, no matter what the Church says, something the Church itself is very aware of.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:18 PM
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16. Sounds like that diocese should lose it's tax status as a non-profit |
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:19 PM
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17. Shit like this is why NO church should be tax exempt. |
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:22 PM
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My preacher wasn't there today and he doesn't preach politics from the pulpit. If he did I would stop going. Today's lesson was about spiritual and physical abuses and getting through them. Not letting people beat you up and not being afraid to get help etc. It was pretty good. My church isn't political and never has been thank goodness.
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