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Sun Sep-10-06 02:53 PM
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come 2008, we need a President who |
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is of the caliber of FDR or even higher.
I don't see anyone like that on the radar.
The next President not only needs to end the insanity of the bush cabal, but repair the worst of the immediate damage--especially foreign policy problems, address major problems--some the worst in the history of civilization, start fixing the long-term damage done by the bush cabal--especially our devastated economy, restore our international credibility (although many other nations believe our system is intractably broken) and restore respect to the office.
I don't see anyone like that on the radar.
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Sun Sep-10-06 02:58 PM
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1. Clark is certainly on that level |
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w/o question. And before the naysayers get busy, realize that FDR himself wouldn't have been considered to have been FDR's caliber (as he is viewed today), by many people of his day.
Clark's life story has uniquely prepared him for the crisis we face. He's a gift.
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Sun Sep-10-06 03:01 PM
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3. Roosevelt was considered a light-weight by pundits in 1932 |
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So he had low expectations going in to his Presidency. I think that the next strong Democratic President will be in a similar situation.
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Sun Sep-10-06 03:06 PM
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but does he have the weight to get nominated?
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Mon Sep-11-06 01:36 PM
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14. I have him on a high carb diet |
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don't worry, he'll be ready in 2008
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Sun Sep-10-06 03:00 PM
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2. The only way to accomplish all stated is to open the books and expose |
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BushInc in FULL.
There are a few anti-corruption, open government Democrats that are out there.
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Sun Sep-10-06 03:03 PM
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5. I remember reading that Clinton decided not to open the books |
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and expose multi-trillion dollar corruption from the reign of george the first in order, supposedly, to keep the country focused on moving forward.
I don't see anyone prominent in the pre-2008 positioning for President who remotely would be capable of this (or even who would want to).
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Sun Sep-10-06 03:06 PM
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I key on the anti-corruption, open government Democrats who I find are the hardest workers taking on the toughest jobs in DC.
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Sun Sep-10-06 08:53 PM
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11. who, in the Presidential running, |
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Sun Sep-10-06 03:02 PM
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4. But our assessment of FDR is long after his first campaign. |
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He wasn't "our" FDR before he ran. A qualified man, to be sure. But not the legendary 4-term nothing-to-fear but-fear-itself FDR in the textbooks.
Claudius was thought to be a slobbering nitwit but did just fine as Emporer.
Just my take, but I think we don't know who the next FDR will be, and for that matter, the next FDR himself or herself doesn't know if greatness is realizable.
I like our blue team, though. Some damn fine folks. On the red side, there's McCain's popularity (although he's making me puke torrents lately with all this right-wing cozying up he's doing -- even worse than his usual, I mean), but after McCain, their squad is c-stringers.
Both Al Gore and John Kerry, rightly-elected to the presidency in '00 and '04, would make exceptional presidents. Edwards' war on poverty versus Bush's war for oil -- downright historic. Etc.
I think we've got the right stuff.
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Sun Sep-10-06 03:08 PM
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8. they "won" with raygun, george the first and the current nitwit, |
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none of whom even qualifies as a c-stringer . . .
the owners of this country like idiot repukes.
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Sun Sep-10-06 03:18 PM
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9. True--the country's up to its butt in idiot repukes, but even repuke polls |
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Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 03:26 PM by Old Crusoe
are now showing a likely flip to blue for the House, outside shot at the Senate.
I'm encouraged to work that much harder.
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Sun Sep-10-06 03:52 PM
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10. The owners of this country control the media and the voting machines that |
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transform these c-stringers into statesmen of heroic proportions.
Could any of them have done it without media helping to protect and promote their "image" to the general public?
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Sun Sep-10-06 08:56 PM
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13. all three were (are) unmitigated disasters |
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no matter how you measure it
they are the three worst "presidents" in history.
any reputation they have is totally fabricated.
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Sun Sep-10-06 08:55 PM
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12. I don't think you'll know until years later. |
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Did everyone know that FDR would be one of the greatest in 1928? Probably not. I think there are those with potential. In 2008, it's Feingold. In 2012, it's Obama.
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