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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 09:59 PM
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Just gotta say one thing to Disney/ABC after watching
EAT SHIT!


I hope Clinton, Berger, and everyone else who has a case of libel against ABC/Disney files suit TOMORROW MORNING, holds a press conference, and shoves subpoenas right up ABC/Disney's, the director's, the producer's, the actors', and the "horse they rode in on's" ass!

FUCK THE MOUSE!!!!!
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Buckmaw Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:00 PM
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1. What about M. Moore?
I guess if this happens then M. Moore should be worried... yes?
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:01 PM
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2. What's he got to worry about?
He offered a reward to anyone who could find a lie in his film. So far, no takers.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:02 PM
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3. If Mike committed libel, he would have been sued by now.
Mike told the truth.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:19 PM
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34. I don't think you want to use that as a basis of truth.
So by what you said, if there's no successful lawsuit brought against Disney/ABC then this show was all truth?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:22 PM
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37. The OP asked if Mike Moore shouldn't be worried about libel. n/t
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:38 PM
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45. And you said because he was never sued he must have told the truth?
Hence, if there is no lawsuit filed against ABC/Disney, then this documentary must be true?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:42 PM
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51. No. I said two things:
1. If Mike were going to be sued, he would have been sued by now.

2. Mike told the truth.

I did not say the if there is no lawsuit, there is truth. Please do not put words in my mouth.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:02 PM
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4. Nope. I'ts not LIBEL when it's TRUE, you see.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:24 PM
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39. And when it's about a politician's political service.
Libel is when you make accusations about someone's personal life that do not pertain to their official work. Michael stayed on course. He hired several groups of unaffiliated experts to edit and re-edit the work and did not interfere.

No one can say that about this obimination.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:02 PM
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5. By using the Bush administration's own words??
Uh, no.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:02 PM
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6. What ABOUT MM? He offered anyone lots of money if they
could find a non-truth in his documentary, and no one took him up on it because they couldn't. I don't see Disney/ABC offering the same thing. :eyes:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:03 PM
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7. 2 posts and bringing up Michael Moore?
Something tells me you're not long for these boards.

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Buckmaw Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:05 PM
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??
I wasnt trying to get kicked out... and yes, not many posting...

However, I do enjoy reading what other post...
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:19 PM
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32. You're just not a very experienced little troll are you?
And sadly you won't be around long enough to gain much more experience. :D
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:03 PM
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8. Tell us everything you know.
Shouldn't take very long.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:06 PM
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17. he just did. nt
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:07 PM
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20. LOL n/t
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:08 PM
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21. I think they just blew their wad with that post
That apears to BE everything that they know. :rofl:

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:04 PM
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9. Thank you for your concern.
And let me welcome you to DU.

Mr. Moore's defense is the truth. The Path to 9/11 perpetrators don't have that.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:04 PM
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10. Um, no.
Moore's movies are documentaries; not "fictionalized" versions of real life events. He doesn't do docudramas. No one has sued him because they cannot deny what he shows in his films. He doesn't create fictionalized scenes and pass them off as truth. Big difference, yes?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:04 PM
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11. libel and defamation are lies
Moore told the truth.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:04 PM
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12. I know troll, I know...but for entertainment value...
1. If you were going to see a Michael Moore movie, you KNEW what you were going to be seeing...
2. You had to PAY to see the MM movie
3. MM used scenes that actually happened, there were no actors making up scenes
4. MMs movie was not given out to school children to learn about the history behind 9/11
5. MM movie wasn't shown commercial free on a network channel
6. MM movie wasn't offered for free on itunes

I'm not a fan of Michael Moore, I didn't even like F9/11 but this bullshit that they were the same thing is just beyond logic, though you guys were never good at that to begin with huh?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:05 PM
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13. Please explain your point. It's not clear. n/t
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:05 PM
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14. You have a captive audience. Please expound.
We're waiting agog.

:rofl:
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:06 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Thanks for the laugh - I needed that.

:rofl:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:06 PM
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16. People who tell the truth don't have to worry.
But you wouldn't know about those people would you?
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:06 PM
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18. Ah---no
Tell us one lie in Michael Moore's movie.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:07 PM
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19. Typical.
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 10:09 PM by patrice
6-year old mind. "Whatever I/we did is okay, because Michael Moore did _____________."
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:09 PM
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22. Or the ever reliable, "Clinton did it too." eom
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:26 PM
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42. Btw, if Michael Moore is supposed to be the left-wing Ann Coulter,
why isn't he a frequent "commentator" and subject of TV news all the time???
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:39 PM
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46. Oh but, "Americans can't handle that level of complexity."
We mustn't expect too much of our listeners and viewers.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:40 PM
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48. Ah... So maybe if he just threatens violence against people,
expresses intolerance for the majority of Americans, and insults most of the world, then he could be as welcome and popular as Ann is!
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:09 PM
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23. Um, no.
But you already know this, dontcha?
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Buckmaw Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:09 PM
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24. ?? :(
Why do yall hate me??
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:14 PM
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29. Why do you assume anyone who disagrees with you hates you?
Can you tell the difference between objective statement of fact and hate?

Claiming some behavior is acceptable because someone else "got away" with something they did is the thinking of a 6-year old. That's not hate; it's a statement of fact.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:43 PM
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52. Awww, I don't hate you.
I think you're adorable.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:09 PM
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25. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Buckmaw Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:12 PM
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27. This makes me sad...
Wow... forget I said anything... Jees...

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:13 PM
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28. I think it's past your bedtime sonny.
You're getting a little cranky there. :eyes:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:44 PM
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56. Diaper needs changing I think.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:22 PM
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38. Well, boo damn hoo
Cry me a river.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:27 PM
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43. We've ALL invited you to debate the point you tried to make
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 10:27 PM by Prisoner_Number_Six
...instead, all you've come back with is masturdebation.

:evilgrin:

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:40 PM
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47. I think FR sent over a junior troll cause the big bullies are all ascared
of us bad ass DUers. :D
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:41 PM
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49. Are you saying there are "big bullies" on FR?
Silly you!! They're ALL "juniors!"
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:44 PM
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58. I think they're all "Top Number 3's", aren't they?
Or am I confusing them with a different
group of insane conservative cultists?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:41 PM
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50. I'd be willing to, but you haven't actually SAID anything yet.
Despite repeated requests, I might add.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:19 PM
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31. Mmmmm, smells like pizza
I'll have mine with banana peppers and mushrooms please. :9
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:21 PM
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35. Ruh-oh...
:wow:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:21 PM
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36. What about M. Graham, M. Washington, and Groucho M.?
Just trying for my own non-sequitors....
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:25 PM
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40. Nice try.
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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:26 PM
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41. No, because he told the truth.
God help you if you don't know the difference.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:36 PM
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44. Ooh! A troll, a troll!
And I got to reply to it before it got tombstoned. :rofl:
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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:44 PM
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55. Nice job.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:43 PM
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54. Um. when it's YOU , on camera as you say the stuff, it's
pretty hard to libel YOURSELF :rofl:

MM did not hire "actors" ..he didn;t have to.. The originals were too good to pass on ..:)
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:44 PM
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57. Hey
look, it's a dust bunny.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:06 PM
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15. The amazing part is they did it with a movie that is unwatchable.
If you are going to smear someone, commit libel, alienate an entire political party do it with some cinematic competence.

This movie is pure crap on many levels it is and was unwatchable and does not effectively deliver any message. Disney/ABC was willing to completely ruin their reputation with this?
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:43 PM
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53. I agree, the movie is awful.
The story line was hard to follow, the editing was terrible, the sound quality made it difficult to understand what was being said at critical times in the plot. Forget whether it's factual or not, the movie stinks even as a work of fiction.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:12 PM
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26. If a good Judge gets their hands on this tomorrow, Part 2 might not be
aired tomorrow night. They can prevent ABC from airing it if they want to.

I hope the shit really hits the fan tomorrow, and all the Kool-Aid drinkers will have to wait months, if ever, to see Part 2. They won't know what happened until it airs, because reality only exists on TV, right? :eyes:
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:17 PM
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30. Saw some rw website that claims that Pt.2 has some criticism of Bush
http://patterico.com/category/political-correctness/

“The Path to 9/11″ absolutely slams Bush in a number of ways:


1. It depicts Condi Rice ignoring Richard Clarke’s advice about Al-Queda and undercutting his authority within the White House.

2. It depicts the August 6th “Presidential Daily Briefing” wherein Rice is explicitly warned before 9/11 that Bin Laden intends to hijack American airplanes.

3. It makes Richard Clarke look like a tragic hero (even though everyone knows that he later went on to become one of Bush’s biggest critics).

4. It contains an epliogue that cites 9/11 Commission members giving the current government a failing grade in implementing their recommendations.

Few people have seen the whole film. Even the select group in Washington only got to see the first half of the film (which obviously doesn’t deal with the Bush administration, based on how the timeline worked). As a result, there is a lot of misinformation going on about what “The Path To 9/11″ is really about.

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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:19 PM
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33. Part two isn't going to be shown in the San Diego area.
At least not on Dish. We are getting Chargers football instead!
(And from what I can imagine, they won't DARE interrupt the game for *'s speech!) Tee hee hee!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:46 PM
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59. Locking
Well over half this thread is in attack mode.

I understand that emotions are running high, but we do not wish to see the site burn down in a flamefest.

Thank you for your understanding.
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