My, my, Bush certainly is the Star of 9/11, isn't he?

[Bluebear]

Wreathlaying last night, a prayer service, breakfast at a firestation this morning, flying to Shanksville, PA for more posing later on today, commandeering the airwaves this evening for a speech....so unobtrusive, so reverent, so not about him, isn't it all?

[Philosoraptor]

1. and the dead scream for justice

[darkmaestro019]

9. I really like you. (sigh) I can't imagine you except as V.

and not just cos of your icon.

Not just the 9/11 dead, either--they were joined by a host of angry, hungry ghosts from New Orleans and legions of them from Iraq. I wonder if Bush sleeps with a night light. I would.

[liberaldemocrat7]

36. Reminds me of the bowery boys movies.

The eminent person who leads the grieving eventually gets found out to have caused the person's death and had a money interest that caused his death.

[darkmaestro019]

72. I'll have to check these movies..I'm missing the cultural reference

but that makes me think of what used to be called Munchausen by proxy, and the more I think of THAT the more it creeps me out. Icky, icky man, our Resident. :puke:

[SoCalDem]

2. Poor guy.. when WILL he fit in his nap and his bike ride?

:puke:

[complain jane]

38. You mean drunken stupor and bike accident, don't you?

[No Exit]

61. He's the star of his very own disaster flick

How fitting.

[magellan]

3. The exploitation is repulsive

You can tell the entire administration has been gearing up for months to exploit this day. They're all out in front of the cameras, solemnly invoking 9-11 to justify their invasion of Iraq. The only possible worse thing is what they're doing behind the ugly scenes.

[Philosoraptor]

4. perhaps someday his name will be a disgrace word

when the awful truth comes out.

[annabanana]

11. It already is in MY house.. . . . . n/t

[madokie]

41. That one four letter word gets my hackles up like no other

[mwb970]

24. Europe is way ahead of us on this.

I heard a caller, maybe on Ed Schultz, say that he had traveled extensively in Europe in recent years, and if you mention Bush's name to most people, they immediately spit on the ground.

I know how they feel. I'm thinking of installing a spittoon right next to the TV.

[Lasher]

5. ABC is pausing halfway through their Rush Disney production tonight

ABC is pausing tonight's 'blame 9/11 on Clinton' political ad so that they can televise Junior's speech. There you have it, a commercial in a commercial.

[Bluebear]

6. Choreography worthy of Balanchine.

Or Paula Abdul, at least.

[Lasher]

32. I don't know there, Blue. I was thinking more of a medicine show.

Except with a $40M budget. And I would more likely buy snake oil than what they're selling.

[luckyleftyme2]

8. IS THERE ANYWAY

Is there anyway we could air the class room scene as he was told about the attack? Or where he was for the next 24 hours. And the headlines of the papers asking if he would respond?
I mean really,they control the media!

[chelsea0011]

7. And today the media should be showing the "I don't think of Osama

that much anymore" comments.

[Omphaloskepsis]

10. The debate is Terror vs. Iraq....

9/11 should be forgotten shortly before the next NFL game. Welcome to the tardbarn. Terror is hot this week. Iraq will grab the headlines for the next few months. Get out the vote...

[JI7]

12. watch for Rudy Giuliani to kick off his campaign for Pres

i wonder where the pervert kerik will be.

disgusting profiting off the dead by doing nothing to make people safer either during or after 9/11.

[Philosoraptor]

13. the exploitation has reached bizarre levels

it reminds me of the nazi worship of the dead at rallies.

[Bluebear]

14. AP: Bush to "WEEP WITH RELATIVES"

NEW YORK - President Bush is abandoning the quiet approach he has adopted in recent years to mark the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

On this, the tragedy's fifth anniversary, he'll take a grim but high-profile journey to weep with relatives of the fallen at each of the three scenes of devastation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060911/ap_on_re_us/sept11_bush

[Philosoraptor]

15. this is what gauls me the most

the way bush visits the crippled soldiers and grieving families when it is he and his buddies who made every body crippled and dead.

what god of sick irony allowed this?

[Bluebear]

16. How can a reporter forecast he will 'weep woth families'?

Talk about fantasyland.

[rosesaylavee]

22. More likely that the families of the fallen

will beat him about the head and shoulders until he runs back to his limo. He best be careful - it won't be a friendly crowd.

[tanyev]

26. Oh, I'm sure they will be very carefully pre-screened relatives.

[Bluebear]

46. But of course. nt

[Berry Cool]

19. Aides to the President are accompanying him to the site

with pieces of a cut onion hidden in a handkerchief.

"That should be good enough to ensure plenty of weeping for the photo op," said one. "Onions really make his eyes sting."

A makeup artist will also be on standby, if necessary, to paint glycerin tears on the President's face "just in case his real tears aren't photogenic enough."

[notadmblnd]

20. he'll even bring his own bottle of tears...

just to make it look real.

[symbolman]

25. So Bush is a professional Weeping Machine?

Does he have a switch? Does Yahoo know that? What a bunch of BULLSHIT by the media. Bush to make casseroles with Families, Bush to Make Freedom Fries with Families, Hell, Bush to Make Trek with Families. but WEEP?

TOTAL PROPAGANDA, shameless.

CRIES ON CUE, Crocodile Tears - too bad Irwin in dead, he could have wrassled Bush to the ground for those Crocodile Tears, Tears ORDERED IN ADVANCE.

That's just BIZARRE reporting.

Scumbad never really cried a day in his life - maybe when the Cocaine ran out one night.

MONSTERS.

[Jed Dilligan]

31. "I like to schedule my weeping

for maximum relevance"

[Beausoir]

33. The AP is getting ahead of the weeping cycle.

[Bluebear]

45. ....

:spray:

[aaronbees]

56. From the article, "renewing resolve" means...

tightening their grip on Americans and kicking the propaganda machine into overdrive. His whole charade is disgusting.

[izzie]

17. I am telling you Bush wants to he a 'hero'

Reading a book to kids and being their hero does not make it.

[Philosoraptor]

18. only we the damned can see the sick irony of it all

this is our curse.

[malaise]

21. Politics plain and simple

plus the vulgar use of tragedy to further his gains.

[City Lights]

23. I'm sick of him pimping 9-11.

:argh:

[Olney Blue]

27. Not. My. President.

[momster]

28. He hasn't flown around the county this much....

since the first 9/11

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

29. The Reset the Clock strategy. I think it was a headline from

Raw Story that called the media blitz this week and last as the Reset the clock strategy.

They hope to take the nation back to the 9/11 mindset, before everyone realized the true nature of this administration.

I don't think it is going to work.

[The Anti-Neo Con]

30. Dem candidates need to get this point out:

THEY ARE USING TRAGEDY FOR POLITICAL GAIN!!!

Seriously.

I feel sorry for anyone dumb enough to think that * actually cares for any of the victims.

[Neecy]

34. he's a fucking ghoul

Every time I've seen him this morning with his face all scrunched up like he's squeezing out a huge turd I think of what he actually did that day - freezing in a classroom and then flying around the country like a scared bunny.

How in the hell did the GOP spin machine turn this disaster into a positive for him? It's something historians will ponder for decades.

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. 9/11 is **'s "little black dress". I haven't watched one minute of this

and ** had some nerve, especially since five years ago, he was "just trying to get out of harm's way." I even forgot that ABC was airing that pack of lies last night. Watched TCM most of the night.

[GeorgeGist]

37. I suppose you think Osama should get top billing?

If it hadn't been for Bush, Osama would still be living in a cave.

[AzDar]

39. I don't know about 'star'; but I sure think he's both producer and

director of 9/11...knowwhatImean?

[wisteria]

40. I question the real need for a speech tonight. Aren't these ceremonial

photo-ops and solemn statements enough? What could he possible add tonight? Are we going to hear another political speech with fear,and a reaffirmation that we need to stay the course?

[Pachamama]

42. If you hadn't told me, I wouldn't have even known where the piece of shit

was or what he was doing....

I'm not watching any TV today and I'm about to go take a hike near the beach to remember my friends and all the others who died on 9/11. Why bring in such an exploiter of 9/11 into their memorials?

[YOY]

43. It's all he had, and he's not letting go of his 'finest hour'

No matter how he's abused and misued it.

[El Fuego]

44. And what's so special about the FIVE year date for all this to-do?

What cosmic significance does five years have in the scheme of things? Why's it so much more important than the 9-11 anniversary in years 4 or 6?

It just happens to fall two months before the Nov. 06 elections.

Coincidence??? I THINK NOT.

[Kurovski]

47. Propaganda is "hard work."

But still a lot easier than cooperating with investigatory bodies.

[Bluebear]

48. You KNOW Bush "doesn't testify". nt

[Kurovski]

49. The truth/lie thing is a tricky maneuver for Shrub.

Didn't Uncle Dick have to hold his hand during the 9/11 commission hearings? I don't precisely recall.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

50. Every time I see that pretender- I think it should be Gore....

It pisses me off and makes me sad at the same time.

[TheGriz]

51. Seriously people.

Ok, there is something that bothers me about threads like this. Specifically, they are two faced and opportunistic.

#1. You are complaining that the The President is paying his respects to the dead on the anniversary of 9/11. That is fucked up.

#2. I think you would be bothered a great deal more if he did nothing. You would then accuse him of "not caring."

#3. GWB is not to blame for 9/11. Terrorists are. The dead do cry out for justice - Osamas head on a plate. That would be justice.

#4. Before anyone declares that it is GWBs fault for 9/11 because he knew prior, and should have "done something," you all complain bitterly about new security measures and arrests made with little evidence. These are the measures that would have prevented 9/11. This, now, is "doing something." Yes it is Orwellian. And, IMO, these measures are wrong. However, you had best decide for yourselves whether you really wanted something "done about it" preventing 9/11.

#5. You are doing, in this thread, the same thing that Mike Moore does - use the names of the dead as fodder, furthering your own political agenda(s). My basis for this accusation? The post "AND THE DEAD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE." You must be a psychic of magnificent preportions. Because noone knows what the victims of 9/11 would think of it all today. And noone will. And there inlies the tragedy.



Its fine to be anti-Bush. I sure as hell am. All sorts of juicy fucked up things can be pinned on the man - and his administration. But 9/11 isn't one of them.

[flaminbats]

52. I suppose our tax dollars don't really matter..

if we can't hold our Commander-in-Chief responsible for defending the country, then what is the President accountable for?

why even have a government if expecting results is too unpatriotic?

[lumpy]

64. Bush boasts that his job is to defend the

country, so he is accountable for being far more interested in getting the man who threatened to kill his father, Saddam Hussein. Much more obsessed with that than taking seriously the warnings that the US was in danger of being attacked by Al Queda.
His policy of playing political footsy with Pakistan has prevented his avid avowal to capture Bin Laden dead or alive.

[Bluebear]

54. PAYING HIS RESPECTS?? And you call ME fucked up?

Where was he the last four years, for instance? Oh yeah, #2: doing nothing and not caring. This is an election year stunt. As far as me doing what Michael Moore does, don't try to complement me like that.

[TheGriz]

57. Not you, your argument

LOL ok. Bush has made speeches and appearances EVERY year. The elections do put pressure on him to "do more" - however this is the case with ANY politician. You attack it because it is Bush, and you don't like him - but if it were (enter politician here - Clinton, perhaps?) I find it unlikely that you would start a thread condemning him for it.

You will note that everything any politician does in public is a photo op. Also, a photo op is not propaganda. The Bush administration DOES use it, we know this. I urge you to attack it when you see it. However, in this instance, the label is inappropriate.

Whether he truly cares or not is of course, something we will never know.

Also I am quite disturbed that you think my comments on Micheal Moore are compliments. Because, you see, using the names and images of the dead while arbitrarily deciding what "they would have wished" in order to further your own political message IS propaganda - it compels the reader/watcher to agree with your own stance by appealing to their "humanity." Nevermind that those people, who were at one time so much more than names and pictures on a memorial, had views and opinions of their own.

[flaminbats]

58. I think we know how much Bush cares..

if he really cared he would have repealed his taxcuts, and taken the political risk necessary to raise them enough to pay for his war. If Bush really cared, he wouldn't have tolerated his father's aid to bin Laden..even if they were fighting commies! If Bush really cared, he wouldn't be giving a bunch of criminals the satisfaction of getting more publicity. If Bush really cared, he wouldn't be using "terrorism" as a reason or cornerstone for justifying his murder of innocents in an endless war.

Terrorism is nothing more than using fear to justify political crimes. 9/11 wasn't terrorism, it was a crime which wasn't stopped..and organized by a bunch of extremists once organized with our tax dollars, to go after the Soviets.

[Bluebear]

59. Let me "revisit" it when you "have" more than 3 "posts".

"You're" too "disturbed" now.

[TheGriz]

73. So?

Uh... WTF is your point? That I have fewer posts than you do? LOL

Way to stay on topic

[Bluebear]

74. Can you be any more obnoxious?

[WinkyDink]

55. And your being "bothered" means something because.....?

[newspeak]

60. so, how big was the PR event for the Oklahoma City bombing

after five years? Or, maybe it wasn't the right terrorists to instill continual fear in the American psyche. Since * bought his ranch right before the 2000 election, everything, I repeat everything, has been nothing but a photo op. After Katrina, as the whole world watched how inadequate our government is, watching people die of dehydration, * finally goes to view the devastation and as per Der Spiegel, in the photo op, a table is set up with food, people all around, then as soon as the photo op is done, everything is taken down. The only thing he cares about is his artifically created image. How dare you put Michael Moore in the same league as *, maybe you should go to his site and see what he has done for our soldiers-MM truly does not want our soldiers in harms way, unlike our glorious leader who started a war based on lies. His actions, along with his administration, shows he cares nothing for our troops. Some of these soldiers are on their third and fourth round to Iraq, unlike the two tours in Vietnam. Oh, I forgot, these chickenhawks never served in combat so they wouldn't know jackshite about death, carnage and misery. They just know how to profit from it and mitigate it!!!! Maybe you think it's okay for * to joke about hitting the trifecta after 9/11. He thought it was so funny, that he had to tell his constituents more than once--you want to know the sick part? Is how many of them laughed, just like they laughed at the "where's the WMDs joke." To me, everything is a PR creation, the timing is perfect-perfect to either deflect something incriminating coming out or before an election. You do remember all of those terror alerts before the last election? And, what perfect timing for good old OBL to give us that tape. Maybe you need to read the PNAC's plan for us-as many military maneuvers going on that day, jets not scrambled immediately, people in the second tower told to stay-they knew those planes were highjacked-maybe you should look at the time line. They've milked this baby for all it's worth, causing more death and destruction in this tragic day's name.

[TheGriz]

66. Jumping to many conclusions?

Since * bought his ranch right before the 2000 election, everything, I repeat everything, has been nothing but a photo op. After Katrina, as the whole world watched how inadequate our government is, watching people die of dehydration, * finally goes to view the devastation and as per Der Spiegel, in the photo op, a table is set up with food, people all around, then as soon as the photo op is done, everything is taken down.

Um, I don't believe I was defending the Bush administrations performance post Katrina. It was deplorable. Where exactly did I say otherwise?

The only thing he cares about is his artifically created image.

Congratulations and welcome to politics!!

How dare you put Michael Moore in the same league as *, maybe you should go to his site and see what he has done for our soldiers-MM truly does not want our soldiers in harms way, unlike our glorious leader who started a war based on lies.

Awwwww, poor Michael. I never compared him to Bush, so don't say I did. What I did however HINT at, is that he is a pundit, a manipulative liar who takes snippets of interviews out of context, and that, as I have already said, he uses the names and images of the dead as ammunition, to further his own agenda. And you know what? He is making a whole lot of money doing it. There are so, so many good documentaries out there, so much REAL INFORMATION condemning war in Iraq - we don't need this clown. His methods discredit us; dishonesty and an agenda is what got us here - It won't get us out.

His actions, along with his administration, shows he cares nothing for our troops. Some of these soldiers are on their third and fourth round to Iraq, unlike the two tours in Vietnam. Oh, I forgot, these chickenhawks never served in combat so they wouldn't know jackshite about death, carnage and misery. They just know how to profit from it and mitigate it!!!!

Correct. I'm not sure who exactly you are arguing with though. I don't believe I said that the war in Iraq was a good idea, or a right one. If I were to speak on the matter, I'm sure my statements would be quite contrary.

Maybe you think it's okay for * to joke about hitting the trifecta after 9/11. He thought it was so funny, that he had to tell his constituents more than once--you want to know the sick part? Is how many of them laughed, just like they laughed at the "where's the WMDs joke."

Ah yes. I must have found all of these grossly distasteful things hysterical, simply because I don't like St. Moore and have no use for two faced rhetoric with no basis in fact. :eyes:

To me, everything is a PR creation, the timing is perfect-perfect to either deflect something incriminating coming out or before an election.

Congratulations, and welcome to politics!!

And, what perfect timing for good old OBL to give us that tape. Maybe you need to read the PNAC's plan for us-as many military maneuvers going on that day, jets not scrambled immediately, people in the second tower told to stay-they knew those planes were highjacked-maybe you should look at the time line.

Ahahaha... are you saying that 9/11 was a government conspiracy? That isn't healthy skepticism. That belongs on a forum dealing with reptoids, chupacabra and bigfoot. Please, go back to watching Loose Change.

They've milked this baby for all it's worth, causing more death and destruction in this tragic day's name.

Again, we aren't in conflict here. Please, respond to my actual argument, and don't assume that I support or have any use for Bush simply because I find this thread to be an irrational circle-jerk.

[Bluebear]

67. 'I find this thread to be an irrational circle-jerk.'

Perhaps you haven't heard of the "hide thread" feature yet. Meanwhile, my original premise stands. Bush treated this particular anniversary with an absolute excess of appearances, prayer services, breakfasts, wreath layings and especially meaningless national speeches.

[lumpy]

68. Credibility is hard to come by.

Isn't it. Try harder.

[newspeak]

62. excuse me

when you get a PDB saying OBL going to attack US, when you have FBI agents like Colleen Rowley attempting to get information up the apparently disinterested chain of command and you have Sibel Edmonds, a translator who has been judicially silenced about what happened that day--they already had the tools to get the terrorists, so don't talk to me about the trampling of our rights that they're doing now. It must be nice, now to be able to spy on your political opponents (shades of Nixon) without any repercussions, or put individuals that are pro-peace or political opponents like Ted Kennedy on no fly lists--and surprise, no one knows who's determining who's on the list or how you get off the list. They are not protecting, they're infringing!!!! Again, they already had the tools, and almost all FISA warrants have been approved--of course, they wouldn't be approved spying on political opponents. Now would they?

[TheGriz]

69. You're excused.

I already said that I find the current abuses of power to be wrong. I also believe them to be more underhanded than simple political espionage, and that the no-fly list is a more powerful tool than most people realize. However, I am not convinced that the 9/11 hijackers could have been arrested. All that is needed to do so is to go to a judge, get a warrant, and bring them in. It is a simple process. If those FBI agents had actual evidence, why weren't suspects detained and homes searched?

If there wasn't enough dirt on them for that, then they couldnt have been brought in, they couldn't have been held, and so it wasn't prevented.

[lumpy]

63. Bush, Cheney, Rice and those who

were responsible, failed to pay attention to the many warnings from many sources that there was to be an attack on the US involving airplanes, right? It's all public record now and indisputable, if you would care to do a little research. Bush's obsession at the time of 9/11 was wreaking revenge on Saddam Hussein, not a threat from Al Queda. No, Bushco didn't 'pull the trigger' on 9/11, but they chose to let it happen by ignoring the warnings from many sources.

[B Calm]

71. things can be pinned on the man - and his administration. But 9/11 isn't

one of them.

Who was president on 9-11?

[mnhtnbb]

53. Bush thinks he's the center of the universe

[lumpy]

65. Most psychpathic narcissists tend to

consider themselves the hub of humanity.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

70. I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. DeWine...

:evilgrin: