Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Whoa Charlie GIBSON "not unaware of the controversry" - feedback

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:21 PM
Original message
Whoa Charlie GIBSON "not unaware of the controversry" - feedback
Wow, ABC is inviting feedback LATER
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:22 PM
Response to Original message
1. Where's that rock he's been living under?
A "newsman"... not "aware" of that much controversy???

Boggling :crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. The OP wrote "not unaware"=aware.
NT
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. Sentences with double negitives are terrible!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Especially when you have a minute or less to read it!
Thanks for understanding!

The urge to attack and trash first here at DU is something to behold!

Thanks! :hi:

BTW, I'd like to take this opportunity to again thank you for the many times that you are watching something on TV, and keep up a running commentary, so that those of us unable to watch can get a glimpse of what's happening. I've done that a time or two, and know that it isn't easy to multitask in that way, so I very, VERY much appreciate your efforts!

I'm so appalled at those who, when asked to provide more than a simple link, will turn and, again, attack and trash. Some of us just don't have the same resources that everyone else takes for granted.

Your efforts are noticed and appreciated!

:yourock:!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. Thank you for noticing.
I had less than a minute left in which to read it, and that's how I saw it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #3
15. Now, can you tell me why you chose to correct me, but not the other
poster who read it the same way?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2113007&mesg_id=2113042

Another instance of looking for those with that all-important "low post count"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. He is aware
He's using a pretentious double negative.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. Again, thank you for noticing.
I had less than a minute left on the computer, read fast (of necessity), and that's how I saw it.

Mea culpa.

:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. Sorry to offend.
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 01:36 PM by Marie26
Defensive much?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. "sorry to offend", then add another attack
my goodness, such good Democratic manners.

What a fantastic way to add to the voter list! Is this how you talk to those you're trying to convince to vote, or to vote Dem?

No wonder we're on the losing end....

Write back when you can be cordial, OK?

Thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Extremely defensive
I wrote my post at the same time someone else did, to help you understand the OP. It wasn't your fault, it was Charlie Gibson's fault for phrasing it in such a confusing way. But based on your over-reactions & defensiveness since, I'm regretting doing so. Not everything is personal. Jeez.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Jeez.
Answer my questions... is this how you approach new voters?

Or do you reserve this behavior for DU?

Over and out.

Your turn to attack. Have at it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. It's too stupid to bother.
If you get this offended at someone correcting a misunderstanding, you'll often be outraged on this site.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:23 PM
Response to Original message
2. That's what we need. News people who aren't aware of the news
What a loser
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #2
14. I can't help but wonder why..... you weren't corrected at all, but I was
corrected twice...?

Just because my all-important "post count" is lower?

Amazing.

At any rate, those of us who have to read things fast don't always catch stuff like this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. Yes, those of us with higher post counts are immune from correction
Just kidding. Most of the time no one responds to my posts at all.

:hi:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:24 PM
Response to Original message
4. Boycott, do not call or email!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Exactly. Time for payback!
BOYCOTT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Bingo! Don't let them know anyone watched it!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:41 PM
Response to Original message
7. Uh, peeps, Charlie said he is NOT unaware
But let's ponder CatWoman's Crooks/Liars transcript of Keith's magnificent spiel:

« Matt Lauer goes after Bush over secret prisons and torture | Home



Keith Olbermann’s Special Comment on Bush: Who has left this hole in the ground? We have not forgotten, Mr. President. You have. May this country forgive you
By: Jamie Holly on Monday, September 11th, 2006 at 6:30 PM - PDT


Keith Olbermann blasts President Bush in his latest "Special Comment" section on Countdown tonight. He leaves no stone unturned…

Video-WMP Video-QT

Full Transcript:

And lastly tonight a Special Comment on why we are here. Half a lifetime ago, I worked in this now-empty space.
And for 40 days after the attacks, I worked here again, trying to make sense of what happened, and was yet to happen, as a reporter.
And all the time, I knew that the very air I breathed contained the remains of thousands of people, including four of my friends, two in the planes and — as I discovered from those "missing posters" seared still into my soul — two more in the Towers.
And I knew too, that this was the pyre for hundreds of New York policemen and firemen, of whom my family can claim half a dozen or more, as our ancestors.
I belabor this to emphasize that, for me… this was, and is, and always shall be, personal.
And anyone who claims that I and others like me are "soft", or have "forgotten" the lessons of what happened here — is at best a grasping, opportunistic, dilettante — and at worst, an idiot — whether he is a commentator, or a Vice President, or a President.
However. Of all the things those of us who were here five years ago could have forecast — of all the nightmares that unfolded before our eyes, and the others that unfolded only in our minds… none of us could have predicted… this.
Five years later this space… is still empty.
Five years later there is no Memorial to the dead.
Five years later there is no building rising to show with proud defiance that we would not have our America wrung from us, by cowards and criminals.
Five years later this country’s wound is still open.
Five years… later this country’s mass grave is still unmarked.
Five years later… this is still… just a background for a photo-op.
It is beyond shameful.

At the dedication of the Gettysburg Memorial — barely four months after the last soldier staggered from another Pennsylvania field, Mr. Lincoln said "we can not dedicate - we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract."
Lincoln used those words to immortalize their sacrifice.
Today our leaders could use those same words to rationalize their reprehensible inaction. "We can nto dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground." So we won’t.
Instead they bicker and buck-pass. They thwart private efforts, and jostle to claim credit for initiatives that go nowhere. They spend the money on irrelevant wars, and elaborate self-congratulations, and buying off columnists to write how good a job they’re doing — instead of doing any job at all.
Five years later, Mr. Bush… we are still fighting the terrorists on these streets. And look carefully, sir — on these 16 empty acres, the terrorists… are clearly, still winning.
And, in a crime against every victim here and every patriotic sentiment you mouthed but did not enact, you have done nothing about it.

And there is something worse still than this vast gaping hole in this city, and in the fabric of our nation.
There is, its symbolism — of the promise unfulfilled, the urgent oath, reduced to lazy execution.
The only positive on 9/11 and the days and weeks that so slowly and painfully followed it… was the unanimous humanity, here, and throughout the country. The government, the President in particular, was given every possible measure of support.
Those who did not belong to his party — tabled that.
Those who doubted the mechanics of his election — ignored that.
Those who wondered of his qualifications — forgot that.
History teaches us that nearly unanimous support of a government cannot be taken away from that government, by its critics.
It can only be squandered by those who use it not to heal a nation’s wounds, but to take political advantage.
Terrorists did not come and steal our newly-regained sense of being American first, and political, fiftieth. Nor did the Democrats. Nor did the media. Nor did the people.
The President — and those around him — did that.
They promised bi-partisanship, and then showed that to them, "bi-partisanship" meant that their party would rule and the rest would have to follow, or be branded, with ever-escalating hysteria, as morally or intellectually confused; as appeasers; as those who, in the Vice President’s words yesterday, "validate the strategy of the terrorists."
They promised protection, and then showed that to them "protection" meant going to war against a despot whose hand they had once shaken… a despot who we now learn from our own Senate Intelligence Committee, hated Al-Qaeda as much as we did.
The polite phrase for how so many of us were duped into supporting a war, on the false premise that it had ’something to do’ with 9/11, is "lying by implication."
The impolite phrase, is "impeachable offense."
Not once in now five years has this President ever offered to assume responsibility for the failures that led to this empty space… and to this, the current, curdled, version of our beloved country.
Still, there is a last snapping flame from a final candle of respect and fairness: even his most virulent critics have never suggested he alone bears the full brunt of the blame for 9/11.
Half the time, in fact, this President has been so gently treated, that he has seemed not even to be the man most responsible — for anything — in his own administration.
Yet what is happening this very night?
A mini-series, created, influenced — possibly financed by — the most radical and cold of domestic political Machiavellis, continues to be televised into our homes.
The documented truths of the last fifteen years are replaced by bald-faced lies; the talking points of the current regime parroted; the whole sorry story blurred, by spin, to make the party out of office seem vacillating and impotent, and the party in office, seem like the only option.
How dare you, Mr. President, after taking cynical advantage of the unanimity and love, and transmuting it into fraudulent war and needless death… after monstrously transforming it into fear and suspicion and turning that fear into the campaign slogan of three elections… how dare you or those around you… ever "spin" 9/11.

Just as the terrorists have succeeded — are still succeeding — as long as there is no memorial and no construction here at Ground Zero…
So too have they succeeded, and are still succeeding — as long as this government uses 9/11 as a wedge to pit Americans against Americans.
This is an odd point to cite a television program, especially one from March of 1960. But as Disney’s continuing sell-out of the truth (and this country) suggests, even television programs can be powerful things.
And long ago, a series called "The Twilight Zone" broadcast a riveting episode entitled "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street."
In brief: a meteor sparks rumors of an invasion by extra-terrestrials disguised as humans. The electricity goes out. A neighbor pleads for calm.
Suddenly his car — and only his car — starts. Someone suggests he must be the alien. Then another man’s lights go on.
As charges and suspicion and panic overtake the street, guns are inevitably produced.
An "alien" is shot — but he turns out to be just another neighbor, returning from going for help.
The camera pulls back to a near-by hill, where two extra-terrestrials areseen, manipulating a small device that can jam electricity. The veteran tells his novice that there’s no need to actually attack, that you just turn off a few of the human machines and then, "they pick the most dangerous enemy they can find, and it’s themselves."
And then, in perhaps his finest piece of writing, Rod Serling sums it up with words of remarkable prescience, given where we find ourselves tonight.
"The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices - to be found only in the minds of men.
"For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own — for the children, and the children yet unborn."

When those who dissent are told time and time again — as we will be, if not tonight by the President, then tomorrow by his portable public chorus — that he is preserving our freedom, but that if we use any of it, we are somehow un-American…
When we are scolded, that if we merely question, we have "forgotten the lessons of 9/11"… look into this empty space behind me and the bi-partisanship upon which this administration also did not build, and tell me:
Who has left this hole in the ground?
We have not forgotten, Mr. President.
You have.
May this country forgive you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:46 PM
Response to Original message
8. Feedback? I had to run out to buy more duct tape after I saw the
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 09:48 PM by lectrobyte
deadly piles of fertilizer in a home & garden store near you. Including even places like Washington DC! I think they are gonna do a an undercover "buy" too, but I'd already left before that part of the show.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:32 PM
Response to Original message
16. What are you referring to?
I don't even understand your post.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. Gee, let me spell it out. Just the topic that was saturating DU for the
past week. After Part 2 of the wingnut 911 ABC movie, GIBSON hosted a news-discussion program with the (typo-ed) quotation as an introduction.

Satisfied? But thanks for digging up a thread that had long died just for the heck of making a hostile remark.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 06:03 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC