What the Bleep Do We Know?

[nomatrix]

http://www.whatthebleep.com/

Has anyone seen this movie yet?

It is on Stars tonight at 10:00.

Reviews....

"this is one of those films you want everyone on the planet to see." Ashland Independent Film Festival


"This outrageous film plunges you into a world where quantum uncertainty is demonstrated – where neurological processes, and perceptual shifts are engaged and lived by its protagonist - where everything is alive, and reality is changed by every thought.

It has been called by some theater goers The Handbook to The Matrix. Like The Matrix it shows you a greater reality behind the one we all accept as true, and you have the ability to create absolutely anything from your own thought while laughing all the way!

The difference between this film and that movie is that this isn't science fiction. It's even stranger. It's real. And it's the first film to say it. And it does so boldly and with a BLEEP of a lot of humor. And it's being proven every day by minds like these.

What the Bleep Do We Know!? gives voice to the modern day radical souls of science, bringing their genius to millions. These maverick heroes at the cutting edge of their fields are at the forefront of a Paradigm shift even greater than those of the geniuses who preceded them. And this shift involves the greatest uncharted territory yet -

Human Consciousness itself."

Absolutely fantastic! Would you like to have some idea of how we tick? You will not think the same way after you see this movie.


The NEW movie

Down the Rabbit Hole

comes out in FEB. There is a movie trailer on the site.

[LaurenG]

1. I enjoyed it ! nt

[bluerum]

2. Yes I have seen it and I thought it was wonderful. It ties physics and

science together with art and spirituality. It's a little new agey but its also very well grounded in the world of the practical. Yes, the movie addresses human consciousness from a number of perspectives that have in common the belief that although somehow our consciousness is bound up in our physical selves it is much more than the sum of the physical components.

Can't wait for Down The Rabbit Hole.

[zippy890]

17. I agree with you - Its a wonderful movie

nice description

[ikojo]

3. Here's what salon.com said about it a couple of years

ago...

"Bleep" of faith
An indie film gets buzz and a big rollout. But "What the Bleep Do We Know!?" uses questionable on-screen experts -- and appears to be an infomercial for a controversial New Age sect.

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That has meant little attention has been given to either the film's agenda, or its questionable use of supposed experts. At least one scientist prominently interviewed in the film now says his words were taken out of context. And two other key subjects in the film are not fully identified: a theologian who, the film fails to divulge, is a former priest who left the Catholic Church after allegations of sexual abuse; and a mysterious woman identified only as Judy "JZ" Knight, who is actually a sect leader claiming to channel a 35,000-year-old warrior spirit named Ramtha. The film's three co-directors are among those who follow Ramtha and look to Knight's channeled maxims to decipher the mysteries of life. These Ramtha followers reportedly number in the thousands. But critics call the sect a cult.

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David Albert, a professor at the Columbia University physics department, has accused the filmmakers of warping his ideas to fit a spiritual agenda. "I don't think it's quite right to say I was 'tricked' into appearing," he said in a statement reposted by a critic on "What the Bleep's" Internet forum, "but it is certainly the case that I was edited in such a way as to completely suppress my actual views about the matters the movie discusses. I am, indeed, profoundly unsympathetic to attempts at linking quantum mechanics with consciousness. Moreover, I explained all that, at great length, on camera, to the producers of the film ... Had I known that I would have been so radically misrepresented in the movie, I would certainly not have agreed to be filmed."

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Knight's role as the voice of Ramtha is the most striking -- but hardly the only -- omission of the film, which could easily be interpreted as a full-blown infomercial for Ramtha. Two other on-screen experts are not identified as Ramtha associates: Dr. Joe Dispenza, chiropractor and mystic, listed as a student on the Ramtha Web site; and a man identified only as "Dr. Miceal Ledwith."

Ledwith (at one time Monsignor Michael Ledwith) was once on track to be the next archbishop of Dublin, but the theologian stepped down as president of Maynooth College in 1994, after a complaint that he had sexually harassed a young seminarian. It was later revealed that Ledwith had allegedly paid an six-figure sum to a man who accused him of sexual abuse. Ledwith has maintained his innocence but left Ireland for the more placid confines of Monterey, Calif. On the "Bleep" Web site, Ledwith's relationship with the Catholic Church is only alluded to in a claim that he was once "charged with advising the Holy See on theological matters," but he is not identified as ever having been a priest, or even as a lecturer at the Ramtha school. According to a Ramtha Web site, Ledwith has joined "Ramtha's core of appointed teachers." (The Ramtha school and Ledwith have not responded to requests for interviews. The "Bleep" Web site recommends that journalists contact an independent publicist, but the movie previously listed as its P.R. contact Pavel Mikoloski, also director of public affairs for Ramtha's school.)

[Wrinkle_In_Time]

9. Thanks for posting that critical review...

... I consider that movie to be a slick and dangerous piece of "woo-woo" new-age propaganda. It is not science.

In addition to the criticisms that salon.com listed, there is also the fact that Dr. Masaru Emoto's work with water crystals is bunk. He claims that his work has been peer-reviewed by over 150 sources but no-one can find them.

It's a fairy-tale.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

4. The photographs of the drops of water were fascinating

I wish I could recall who it was they said had taken the photos, I'd like to see more of his work.

[oldlady]

8. Masaru Emoto

it's been put together in a book "The Hidden Messages in Water"

& I vote that the film is very much worth seeing. Gives a lot of info on brain chemistry that helps make the world & people a little more understandable.
peace

[Lone_Star_Dem]

10. Thank you

:)

[Labalanza]

5. I liked it

Most of the people I know that saw it liked it, a few didn't. Its message is positive and constructive, the delivery of the message is multi-faceted, the interviews diverse, and there's even some sidebar humor that's pretty funny. Hope you enjoy it.:popcorn:

[MatrixEscape]

6. It was fun and a bit entertaining.

But it was mostly far-reaching speculation and biased representation. The sweeping conclusions and broad scope of their message is merely New Age Hype 2.0. Some of the "scientific" testimony is not only out of context, but downright misrepresented.

I say that having spent most of my life studying related fields and information from mystical to scientific. Bneen there, done that, to the nth degree ... literally.

Keep in mind that Ramtha, (played by the funny, almost drunk-sounding lady, Ms. Knight) is the channeled being behind the production, so you have to account for the cultist impetus for an after market and greater influence. In fact, I think Knight's presence ruins the movie's potential and detracts from the thought-provoking potentials. Her comic relief is half-assed, while it makes a big dent in the presentation.

P.T. Barnum would approve as the speculations arrived at by applying Quantum concepts to other levels of experience and existence are very alluring to those who expect more god-like powers over reality! Make your day, baby!

One of the problems with the implications of actually making your day would be something like a clash of ancient wizards all imposing their personal wills on a situation. Chaos and hilarity would ensue!

It might make a good premise for a prime-time comedy, though!
See it for entertainment, since you have to be really naive or gullible to buy it if you look more carefully into the various ideas it conveys.

If it makes you think, that's fine, too. I suggest you channel your own Great Being and resist the urge to fleece yourself by following for the pitch.

[brainshrub]

7. The first half was okay; the 2nd half was an infomercial for Ramtha.

The movie is nothing more than a commercial for Ramtha's ideology. (Her church paid for the movie.)

I got sick of Ramtha trying to give her religion scientific credentials toward the end.

Knowledge of quantum physics will not improve your love life or make you a Boddhi.

One piece of advice was very astute: Watch out for the good Catholic boys.

:evilgrin:

me <--- good Catholic boy.

[thebigidea]

11. what a dumb title.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

12. I saw it a few months ago, just because it was filmed in Portland...

There's a thread in the Oregon Forum with a few more reviews...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=174x3020

[nomatrix]

15. Thanks, I didn't know exactly where

but knew it had to be Northwest.

I guess everyone who sees it gets a different experience.

Personally I liked its simplistic way of showing how negative life experiences impact your being and how you view your world.

I brought it up here in this forum, not for it's new age, but for it possibilities.

Considering how the RW has the copyright on FEAR it would be interesting to bring some sanity back the the U.S. by tapping into resources yet explored.

You know the old Doors song "I've been down so very dam long that it looks like up to me."

We could loose all momentum of support just by the "what's the use?" attitude. Really. Has to be considered.

There has to be some way of exciting the masses before Armageddon.

I liked what Michael Moore did in F911, especially with Lyla Lipscome. Just exposing her pain, with that RW Witch saying it was staged, in front of the WH, had a huge impact.

[AZBlue]

13. It was very good. Looking forward to Rabbit Hole. (nt)

[sweetheart]

14. I found it a great "opener"

The film puts forward the theory of "intentionality" which i find very keeping
with my life experience. This was inspiring indeed.

I bought the film, not so i could watch it again, but so that the filmmakers
make more films that shake the cage. How utterly refreshing to see a film that
asks the viewer to consider what impact they and their thoughts have on the
world around them. Its good to see art that celibrates possibility and
unity in life.

And i love the ending "think for yourself." I found it to be an advert for
no products except that i should trust my intuition more and be more careful
about what thoughts i "think". It has gotten me to being very careful when
handling baby puppies realizing that i will affect the animal's total future
by how i handle them today... and that there is no limit on the upside.

We've been on about this film in the religion/theology forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=21630&mesg_id=21630
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=45567&mesg_id=45567

It certainly has been food for thought. :-)

[nomatrix]

16. Thank you.

I think it has many possibilities.:think:

[Quixote1818]

18. It's got good and bad in it. Quantum Physics good! 35,000 year old

warrior spirit from Atlantis, being channeled by Tacoma housewife turned cult leader. BAD!

Some of the Physicists did not endorse other parts of the movie. I believe the water crystal thing has been debunked by the skeptical enquirer as well as the idea that Native Americans could not see European Ships because they did not compute in their brain.

I loved parts of the movie but other parts were just plain bad science. The best parts dealt with human body chemistry and how the mind and positive thinking can change your perception of reality and stop some chemicals that send the mind into anxiety and depression from being released into the blood system. That much of reality is just a state of mind.

Here is an informative site that takes a skeptical look at the film:
http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/what_the_bleep_.html