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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:56 PM
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As a Democrat, I request the White House cease and desist from...
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 11:59 PM by kentuck
any further illegal spying on American citizens until this issue can be resolved by the Congress or in the Courts. As an American, I request that our government cease and desist from spying activities not granted them by the Constitution of the U.S.

Cannot our Congress make a similar request?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:58 PM
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1. I hope everyone who finds out they were spied on...
files a lawsuit against these assholes.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:07 AM
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4. How will they know?
It would be better were every individual that is able to file suit immediately, under the assumption that they have, in fact, been spied on. Ask for a written guarantee from your communication providers that they have not been cooperating with or complicit in the President's illegal spying program. If they can not, or will not, provide a written guarantee, sue them for breach of contract, and sue Bush, PERSONALLY. If enough of us were to do this, discovery and publicity would push the issue forward.

We know that the media is complicit, but if we force the costs for the corporations to skyrocket, they will dump their support for Bush, and thus remove one of his greatest shield, the cooperation of the mainstream media.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:04 AM
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2. There's so many spies. I wonder if the WH has the power
I know the NSA thing is scandalous and terrible. But I've been reading a lot on this issue lately, and there are so many fish in the water as far as spying goes...Like in this book "No place to hide" I am reading it talks about all these corporations who started the spying on their own, and got huge amounts of data outside of any government oversight. Its a wierd complicated thing, apparently. So it reaches a point where instead of just looking at spying , you have to look at the role corporations play in our life. Like the thing with Google...Even if they don't let the DOJ have the records, nothing changes the fact that Google THEMSELVES have the records, and these can slip out backdoors to the highest bidders...So whatya do?
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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:05 AM
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3. indeed file for a restraining order :)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:12 AM
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5. As a Democrat, your opinion is of no value whatsoever.
Until Republicans say exactly what you're saying, nothing will be done, and your voice is just so much noise.

Haven't you noticed that, yet?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:16 AM
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6. And the same applies to our Democratic Congressmen ?
Would their voices be as worthless as mine?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 04:09 AM
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9. Well........
To hear the MSM tell it.......
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:20 AM
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7. From the Govt
as you are a democrat, we will monitor every move you make. How dare you question Great Leader :sarcasm:
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:37 AM
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8. Your question is a good one...and
I'm sure they can do more than simply "request" that illegal activities stop immediately. Probably have lots of options, if they wanted.

The majority is not going to insist, proactively, that illegal spying stop. That should not mean the minority gets to sit on their hands. They can easily and very visibly show what side of the issue they're on. Offer resolutions, make fiery speeches, shut down congress, invoke rule 21, go to court for injuctions, protest en masse, fillibuster every single issue....and probably more. They could take the issue head on, if they wanted, for the benefit of the American people and for their own political benefit.

Why they don't is getting to be an old, tired question.

The Conyers hearings were really good. What to do next was unclear...except that something really needs to be done.
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