UF requirement for partner benefits: You must have sex

[The Straight Story]

UF requirement for partner benefits: You must have sex

By JACK STRIPLING

Sun staff writer


January 20. 2006 6:01AM

niversity of Florida employees have to pledge that they're having sex with their domestic partners before qualifying for benefits under a new health care plan at the university.

The partners of homosexual and heterosexual employees are eligible for coverage under UF's plan, which will take effect in February. The enrollment process began this month, and some employees have expressed concern about an affidavit that requires a pledge of sexual activity.

Fielding questions about the pledge at a Faculty Senate meeting Thursday, UF's vice president of human resources said he's heard concerns about the affidavit, though overall feedback about the plan has been positive.

"I would say 95 percent of the affidavit is fine," Kyle Cavanaugh said in an interview after the meeting.

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060120/LOCAL/201200329/1078/GATORS02

[jsamuel]

1. Have you "consummated" your effective marriage?

alma matter

UF was really good with those kinds of issues

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. Do they need to submit proof?

Like a video tape?

[jsamuel]

3. hehe, no, just swear

shoot, you have to swear to get a tax deduction now and days...

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. OK

Damnit!

There - I swore.

[jsamuel]

6. hehe

[Dogmudgeon]

12. I think they're looking for a different kind of swearing

"Fuck" is more along the lines of what they want.

Frequently. Hard. And dirty.

You know. Like Jeb and Katherine.

--p!

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Can I have insurance now?

Fuck

Frequently

Hard

And dirty

Like Jeb and Katherine

[Trillo]

4. Seems like that's an invasion of privacy. nt

[WindRavenX]

7. what about people who are celibate by choice?

I mean, I know this is a minority, but still--do you have to being having regular sex, or just have had sex with your partner? :shrug:

[Canuckistanian]

8. "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation"

A famous quote in Canada, by our late, great former Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau.

[tuvor]

9. Some couples are physically incapable of intercourse.

I wonder what they'll accept in its stead.

[undergroundpanther]

10. This is intrusive

How long until they begin to demand proof?

In the 1970's a urine test to get a job would have looked obscene yet we have accepted this intrusion of corporation into our lives and habits off the jobsite.How much control are we willing to give to greedy assholes who can never gert rich enough or have enough control over others lives?

This sex requirement is one way the corporation/state sees who has sex or doesent have sex. It's NO CORPORATION or businesses business whom you have sex with or don't.This is an INTRUSION into peoples lives that should not be tolerated.

Some people are asexual. I am an asexual,my sex drive is low I am not attracted to people sexually. I do not consider sex importantpart of my life in fact I find it boring.. People like me DO exist.I have long term asexual relationships that are as close and valid as a sexual one without sex..And that does NOT make my relationships worth less than a sexual one.

http://www.asexuality.org/home/

[LiberalAndProud]

11. What if we had sex once?

Would you need affidavits signed by witnesses?

[Dr.Phool]

13. That eliminates married people!

I don't have sex. I'm married!

[TahitiNut]

15. Isn't the University of Florida a public university?

I firmly believe this is an unwarranted intrusion into one's privacy. I'd like to see such violations of human rights prosecuted and the miscreants punished. I'd also like to see a law against publicly-licensed and publicly-traded businesses violating human rights. This is detestable.

[The Straight Story]

16. It will be a big insurance thing like firing smokers who do so at home

Now what people do in their private lives is affecting me like second hand smoke - your life makes me pay more for health care. It is ok (some think) to do this to smokers, so we might as well accept it is ok to do it for anything that potentially affects insurance rates of others....

[jsamuel]

17. Do you realize that they are like the first public university to give

benefits in the first place for same-sex couples?

Your attack is very unfounded.


It's like attacking the pioneers of civil rights because they didn't go far enough...

[lindisfarne]

18. not true. california universities provide benefits to same sex partners

[jsamuel]

19. ok, that is good to know, but Florida is a Red State, CA has a strong

Blue history


What requirments do the CA universities require for same-sex partner benefits?

[lindisfarne]

21. all answers here:

http://atyourservice.ucop.edu/employees/life_changes/family_changes/same_sex_partner/

Lots of public universities offer benefits to domestic partners (maybe they are mainly in blue states though?)

[jsamuel]

22. "financially interdependent" - Me and my wife aren't that.

so, they use finances instead of sex as a requirement, but I can see problems with that as well.

For example, one is bankrupt and the other has good credit. They don't merge their money and credit because it would hurt both of them.

So, they, even though they are having sex and are domestic partners, can't get benefits.

[lindisfarne]

23. i also came up with this as i was googling: FL may backtrack:

A Florida legislator has introduced a bill to prohibit state universities from using government funds for domestic partner benefits. This bill is a reaction to a recent decision of University of Florida trustees to provide benefits to unmarried partners of university employees.

[jsamuel]

24. exactly, the U of Florida is taking some risks doing this in a Red State

They are an island of blue in a sea of red in the northern part of the state. Tallahassee doesn't like this at all, I am sure.

[Raksha]

27. "Domestic partners" means two people who share living quarters

by definition, right? It means they share a house or an apartment. If they are not having sex, they could simply be two heterosexual roommates who share living quarters to reduce living expenses. Personally, I don't see a damn thing wrong with that! In fact, it makes a lot of sense. The law could be written so that only ONE other person can designated a "domestic partner" at any given time. Then whether they are having sex or not is none of anybody else's damn business.

[jsamuel]

28. could be, but the people who are proposing this are doing it expressly for

homosexual couples and not for roomates

they are between a rock and a hard place with definitions...

[lindisfarne]

20. Just what do they mean by "sex"? telephone sex? oral sex?

internet sex? hot-and-heavy letters via snail mail?

(if internet/telephone sex, can they get the NSA to send in an affidavit?)
Is heavy petting good enough? What if someone's pregnant and has problems and can't have sex for a while? Do the benefits go away for that period?

so many questions ...

[Orangepeel]

25. this is monumentally stupid, but I think, not ill intentioned

Of course, they should have used much better words, although I'm not sure what. Romantic relationship? Life partner? But, at least they are extending benefits to gay couples.

Maybe they should just let all employees, coupled or single, to designate a "+one" like they would at a wedding and it wouldn't matter if it was his/her life partner, brother, next door neighbor or a stranger met in the street.

But, it always comes down to money.

[benburch]

26. I don't see the problem.

Other than the fact that many marriages wouldn't qualify after a few years... All marriages assume a sexual relationship at some level, and this is just to ensure that Domestic Partnerships are a close analog of a "real" marriage.

[Porcupine]

29. Um, so like your roomate could trade sex for health insurance?

Yep, sounds like it approximates mairrage to me.

[BattyDem]

30. Are married couples also required to have sex ...

or can they have separate bedrooms if they want to? Does a couple lose coverage if the man becomes impotent? :eyes:

[The Straight Story]

31. I wonder how they define partner, and does a blow up doll count :)

if so can I claim her on taxes....ah the wonderful world of legal crap.