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Sun Sep-17-06 08:08 AM
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FOX NEWS Demonstrates & Exposes The Princeton / Diebold Story |
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Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 08:26 AM by kpete
FOX NEWS exposes the Princeton / Diebold story Imagine my shock to find out today that none other than FOX News had Professor Ed Felten & his team actually demonstrating their study to their right-wing audience!!! VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JESZiLpBLEvia: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/17/33710/0640
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:10 AM
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1. Just so that those nasty libs don't go stealing any elections |
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On those new-fangled electronic voting machines! :evilgrin: Seriously - that's how it'll be spun.
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:13 AM
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2. Maybe OK If It Gets Them Up In Arms |
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Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 08:38 AM by lostnotforgotten
Better to have them deluded into thinking that they are preventing stolen elections for the wrong reasons than no reason at all.
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:22 AM
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that would be honest on our part and something I could live with.
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:47 AM
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The only reason Fox News would be showing this is to lay the groundwork to accuse the Democrats of attempting to steal the election. If enough hysteria can be generated da Fuhrur might even postpone the election until he can "correct" the situation. I put nothing past this criminal regime.
(Read Mark Crispin Miller's Fooled Again for an expose on how thoroughly Republican operatives project onto hapless Democrats what they themselves are doing.)
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:43 AM
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24. Correct. It proves that although Rove et al can steal |
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one or two critical battleground states in a presidential election; they aren't capable of flipping multiple races in all 50 states at the mid-terms YET So they are planting the seed to contest them when they lose in Nov
These guys do NOTHING without ulterior motive involved
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Sun Sep-17-06 12:40 PM
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34. yeah they know they are going down--this will poison the atmosphere |
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and allow them to cast doubt on a Democratic win. Bastards!
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:19 AM
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3. Prepping their audience for an excuse for losing? |
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Now, if a republic loses a close race, they can scream "LIBERAL HACKER VIRUS"
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:36 AM
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:36 AM
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11. You mean, as Jon Stewart pointed out recently... |
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:19 AM
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Best President on Middle East Policy: George W. Bush?
Liberal Media emboldening the terrorists?
Is your mother a whore?
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:39 AM
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23. Was that last Thursday's show? iT WAS HIS BEST |
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Sun Sep-17-06 01:29 PM
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41. Yes, I believe it was Thursday |
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And, I'm pretty sure somebody on DU posted the you tube video. Maybe a search of this site for the last 72 hours?
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Sun Sep-17-06 10:24 AM
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27. That's better than the alternative... |
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using silence on the topic to provide cover for the real reason for a close "victory".
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Sun Sep-17-06 12:51 PM
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36. yes. It shows why we need to have checks and balances and |
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get away from one-party rule.
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:20 AM
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4. Not a surprise... The CHAOS is the point.... |
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If no one can be sure who won... There is an excuse to nullify the whole procedure . . no election. . . martial law..
All kinds of mischief come out of chaos. (witness armed contractors during Katrina)
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:25 AM
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9. I see it as a way to get universal condemnation of the machines |
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so in that vein we make out like a fat rat.
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:20 AM
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:21 AM
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:40 AM
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12. yea, but surely the piece ended... |
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Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 08:41 AM by davekriss
...after they cut away from Felten and his team, this way: "Well, there you have it. Now you too can steal votes in 5 easy minute or less. Your Fuhrur insists! We have to steal it over here before we have to steal it over there! Let's roll!"
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Sun Sep-17-06 08:42 AM
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13. It's building a case for the RWers to contest the elections... |
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Demand UnConstitutional Voter I.D.s Caging Lists.
Oh, heck... To justify calling off the elections entirely.
This is not good, nothing from Fox News is good for Democrats... EVER!
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:25 AM
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19. Do we get to call them sore losers? |
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Which is what they say whenever 2004 is discussed or even 2000.
It is positivly Rovian and unbelieveable that when Bush actually had fewer popular votes than Gore that they managed to keep their countenances and utter the words "Sore-Loserman." You'd think it would have at least bothered them that Chimpy got fewer votes. An anomaly of the electoral college that exists, and can cause the "loser" to "win."
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:32 AM
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20. It may also be an attempt to reduce Democratic turnout at the polls... |
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Instill that, "Ah, it won't be counted so why bother..." meme.
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:02 AM
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15. Great! The FOX audience are the |
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ones who are most deluded and most in need of this information.
My brother (ex-Air Force) and many of my other relatives watch FOX and believe everything they hear on FOX. But if they saw real evidence of the way Diebold can be used to steal elections, they would be up in arms.
A lot of FOX viewers/Republicans are on that side still only because they don't know what we know. They are typically hard-headed, so they refuse to watch anything that they consider to be "liberal media." But they do trust FOX, and if they see such evidence on FOX, they will believe it.
The real Bush die-hards are the ones who turn against FOX the minute they see something that goes against their preconceived notions that the Republicans are pure and good and Dems/liberals are evil incarnate. But a lot of FOX viewers are not like that. They are just ignorant and hard-headed and need a smack upside the head with a two-by-four to wake them up.
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:05 AM
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16. At this point encouraging electoral mistrust is their best bet. |
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I really wonder if these November elections will be a little or a large disaster. I read elsewhere on DU that 80% of midterm voters will be using electronic voting machines. This is so unbelievable to me considering all the questions raised. Eighty percent? If as a result the government shuts down will this benefit the repugs or the liberal progressive who has been stomped on at every turn since 2000 anyway?
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:23 AM
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18. Of course! When they get blown out in November, they'll have someone |
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Sun Sep-17-06 10:50 AM
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29. Probably true, but in the long run this will backfire.... |
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If we are able to get fair and reliable voting methods in place throughout this country, the Neoclowns don't have a chance. No more stolen elections means they will lose.
I welcome conservatives getting on the anti-Diebold bandwagon. They will be helping us.
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:36 AM
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21. the repukes consciously use projection as a propaganda tool |
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It is a basic tenet of the Lee Atwater school of disinformation (borrowed from Goebbells)
They accuse their enemies of doing or being the evil things that they themselves do or are.
This is innoculating the base against the coming Democratic wins (a 75%-25% or better Democratic win is too hard to game). They'll try to spin elections as false if they lose, especially in blue states. Remember that they called Gore a sore loser and accused him of trying to subvert democracy for challenging the Florida non-count. Meanwhile, THEY sued in New Mexico, challenging the outcome there. Ownership of the media guarantees that their hypocricy will never be exposed. But the net effect is (as always) to cloud the issue and turn the whole election fraud issue into a "he-said-she-said" morass that will confuse, anger and alienate the public.
This strategy would be impossible if the media did their job.
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:39 AM
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Such a depressing realization... But, true.
Thanks for airing the 'he-said-she-said' morass.
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Sun Sep-17-06 01:19 PM
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40. All their strategies would be impossible if the media did their job. That |
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is why they had to control the media first.
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Sun Sep-17-06 09:45 AM
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25. There is a question mark after "Flawed Voting Systems" |
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...and there should NOT be.
The fact that it is there just SCREAMS "propaganda".
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Sun Sep-17-06 12:45 PM
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Since that's the case, they should also put a question mark after..
President Bush?
Fox News?
Dick? Cheney
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Sun Sep-17-06 10:45 PM
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42. Other things there is / should be NO question about. |
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bu$hit was not elected president
Fox does not broadcast "news" or any viable form of it
...and Tricky Dick II just IS.
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Sun Sep-17-06 12:56 PM
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37. Yes.......See here..... |
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Sun Sep-17-06 10:21 AM
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26. let this story go where it may |
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don't forget to rate this on youtube. we need to get rid of Diebold. It's hard to get away that Diebold is run by republican donors.
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Sun Sep-17-06 10:31 AM
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28. Preparation for overturning Democratic victories in November, no |
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Sun Sep-17-06 10:56 AM
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30. Stirring the pot to create apathy and division amongst Democrats. |
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Sun Sep-17-06 11:00 AM
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31. They are setting up an "excuse" for the trouncing the GOP will take in Nov |
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Sun Sep-17-06 12:37 PM
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33. Was it just me, or did anyone else |
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get the impression that the woman didn't believe what had just taken place, right before her own eyes??
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Sun Sep-17-06 01:09 PM
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39. FOX ratings in the crapper. They need liberals to watch them now |
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And plus they can call themselves "fair and balanced" from this, even though you know OReilly and Cavuto are going to be spinning this like crazy.
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