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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:29 AM
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Pete Seeger SPeaks Out on Impeachment!! - - - - - - - > AUDIO
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:32 AM
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1. Sweet! nt
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:40 AM
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2. I love Pete!!
:loveya:
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:41 AM
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3. Rock on Pete! Telling the truth for generations!
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baldingrockwarlord2 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:59 AM
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4. nice, but...we're drowning in a sea of hope
sorry folks, I just don't see the value anymore in ANY entertainers "speaking up". I had the highest of hopes during the last election that Springsteen, bon Jovi, Bonnie Raitt, Mellencamp (to name only a few)and others were going to make a difference-THE difference, and we still lost. I totally agree with and support the messages they convey, but it only amounts to preaching to the choir. I'm an entertainer myself and I just don't think that our stages or venues translate into an effective message vehicle for politics. Perhaps the 60's were a better time for "movements".

No disrespect to Mr. Seeger, other entertainers, or those who look to them for leadership and inspiration-My heart and hope is with ANYONE who COULD make a difference. Our hopes have been dashed too many times over feel good messages from entertainers. Popularity from an entertainment career just doesn't translate into political power the way we hope it does. I think we need to find more effective messengers and insist our entertainers "shut up and play their guitars". I think we need to refocus our hopes. Generally speaking people these days want to be entertained by musicians and singers and don't want to hear what's on their minds politically or socially. Not saying I like it that way, just saying that's how it is. God Bless Pete Seeger and Natalie Maines, I love 'em both but it's just not working.
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baldingrockwarlord2 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 11:02 AM
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5. afterthought...
now, if we could just get their employers-the record companies to climb aboard and support the messages-we might have something....
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 11:03 AM
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6. What is wrong with you? Every voice is important
Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 11:03 AM by Generic Other
Pete Seeger is a national treasure. An icon of the left. The man who shaped my political worldview.

His voice means so much more to me than yours.

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baldingrockwarlord2 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 11:23 AM
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7. I mean you no offense here
The influence Pete Seeger HAD in another period of our history was immense and immeasurable, but those days are gone. You and I know who Pete Seeger is and what he means and says, and I totally agree with him. I'm just saying we are placing too much hope and stock in entertainers these days. I still hope and pray for one to come along NOW and make the difference that changes everyones minds-which is what we need. Unfortunately, we live in a different time and when a message eminates from the stage, people in general, not you and I, but others- do not want to hear it. We are a nation divided and there is no entertainer on the planet that can unite it. Any entertainer who opines on stage runs the risk of losing half their fan base immediately. That's just the way it is. Truth to power means very little any more when power is stronger than the truth. Democracy died in 2000.

We need a new Pete Seeger or Walter Cronkite who not only have the message but can move enough people to make a difference, just like they did in their day and I just don't see it happening. I miss those days. I'm on your side, really. However, hardly anyone under 40 would take a message seriously these days from Cronkite or Seeger, regardless of their importance to folks like you and I. I'm sorry for making you upset. Really. I'm upset too.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:28 PM
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11. Who's placing "hope" in entertainers?
I'm not.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:27 PM
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10. Working? They are expressing their right to free speech.
It's not "strategy" or a "conspiracy" on the part of entertainers.

We lost because Republicans stiffled/stole the votes of millions, knowing that in spite of their financial advantage, they can't win unless they cheat.

Go Pete!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:39 PM
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13. It's hard to believe anyone would just dismiss his voice!
:mad:
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 07:57 PM
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17. I consider the source.
Not so sure everyone here has the same agenda?

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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:33 PM
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12. They are citizens
with the same rights as you or I to speak their minds.

Pete Seeger has been speaking up since before most of us were born and I will be damned if anyone will deny that magnificent man the right to speak his mind.

Waist Deep in the big Muddy is as fucking true today as it was when he sang it almost 40 years ago.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:39 PM
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14. Right on!
:applause:
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 05:19 AM
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19. damn right!
I remember my parents playing Pete when I was a kid, and now my first kid is due soon, I have actually bought some of his kid's cd's.

Garbage was the first song I remember. And of course, my favorite childhood song, There Was An Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly.....

I love Pete.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:54 AM
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20. Maybe your perspective is just a little bit shaded by your
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 11:58 AM by petgoat
environment?

The Republicans want us to be defeatist. That's part of what stolen elections do.
"What's the use? It does no use to campaign, to write letters, to canvass door to
door, to sing. We lost."

What if we didn't lose?

Maybe instead of putting down the efforts of others, you should put some effort
into specifying what the "more effective messengers" you call for would be like,
and then putting some effort into being such a messenger.

Maybe you should consider moving to an environment that is more hospitable to
your spirit. As another songster said many lifetimes ago, "There's a train
each day, leaving either way."

The defeatist blues you're singing now ain't helping nobody but Freepers.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:56 PM
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8. KICK! nt
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:23 PM
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9. It was so good to hear his voice, thank you for this
In my younger years I saw Pete perform many times, once close to the Washington Monument. He is a treasure and a continuing inspiration.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:46 PM
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15. And his voice shouted out the truth loud and clear!!
I had the great fortune to hear him singing at a concert celebrating workers--"Links on the Chain."

He's one of America's greatest liberal voices. And I will listen intently to anything he EVER has to say.

I can't believe we were all forced to DEFEND him on a DU thread!

I wish I could have heard him at the Washington Monument. Talk about living history!

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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:58 PM
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21. It was amazing
and it was totally unplanned. I had gone to Washington to visit my sister who was in college at the time, she mentioned looking at the school newspaper that there was a rally on the mall on environmental issues. So we headed down, and found out Pete was singing. I will never forget it, and it was more than 25 years ago.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:57 PM
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16. Go Pete. n/t
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 03:07 AM
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18. I've heard Pete speak out against war and for the environment . . .
for over forty years, and I'm thrilled that he's taken up the cause of impeachment . . . Pete's well into his 80s, and though his singing voice is weak, his speaking voice is still strong . . . he's been a personal hero of mine for a long time, and he's still in the fight for liberty and justice for all . . .

Thank You, Pete! . . .
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