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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:02 PM Original message |
Sick but Insured? Think Again |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think EVERY American needs to dump their health insurance now |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yep. "Blue Cross parent WellPoint reported $751 million in net income |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I dumped Blue Cross six months ago. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Oh, there's a good idea (not) |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-18-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. I agree, bad advice |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. i've had this thought several times in the past. if everybody |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. If I were to dump my insurance right now...my family would be in a |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-18-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. For those with existing conditions, that's not possible. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
58. And they make piles of money off the premiums |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think it is not just the insurance companies, it's healthcare providers |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. $160 for a tetanus shot |
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onecent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. I can go to the countyhealth clinic for free in Liberty, Missouri...isn't |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:52 AM Response to Reply #37 |
56. How long do you have to wait? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. How do you think the providers got to raise their fees so high? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Talk to a doctor about insurance |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Exactly, they screwed it up for everybody except themselves. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. They sure are. |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
62. Back in the day before HMOs doctors and hospitals |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. There are some good reasons for those costs. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. It's a vicious cycle |
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lavenderdiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. we need Universal Healthcare now... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. THIS is why the lame ass plan the party is sticking with, |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. Welcome to "for profit" healthcare. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yes the problem is there but there is also a big problem with people |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Sick is sick, yes? |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Catch-22 for the sick |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. That's right. We should cut the crap, dismantle the insurance "industry" |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Your "fraudulent action" is getting health coverage for a 4 yr. old girl |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 09:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. I reject that mindset... |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. you are the enemy |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #46 |
57. because I am against people fraudulently entering contracts? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Why are insurance companies allowed to deny payment to people |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Life is more important than a contract. |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. Why are insurance companies allowed to do this? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. There would be no individual insurance offered under those conditions n/t |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Like I said... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Some states have a pool for these folks |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Arizona has group insurance for small biz & self employed |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. CA does have plan |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
64. So does Minnesota, but its premiums are as high as |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. We had a very similar situation 15 years ago |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. my company changed insurance policies when I was 6 months pregnant. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
69. "Can be?" (n/t) |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
15. Welcome to the republican fascist corporate world-Where deregulation |
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yasmina27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. that's why I'm stuck where I'm at |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. That is such a tragic statement about our country & the shape we're in! |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-18-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. Same situation for me. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
59. You are not "stuck" |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. It all started with Reagan and deregulation. |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
24. To get an ultrasound at one local facility costs $600, while the same |
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Tess49 (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Decent diagnostic ultrasound machines cost in the |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-18-06 12:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Then you might want to check out E-Bay. |
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Tess49 (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-18-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. yeah, these small machines are readily available, but don't |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Honestly, they look pretty much the same as the ones used in both |
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Tess49 (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Hey, how about that! Congrats! You'll be having lots of |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Cash procedures keep Ob/Gyns in business. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
25. GOP is working to gut consumer protections |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
31. All private insurance is a scam as far as I'm concerned |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-18-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. great analogy! |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
32. SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE. |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
36. K&R |
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Bozvotros (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
39. Here's a scam that happened to me.... |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-17-06 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. I just don't understand why somebody hasn't 'gone postal' on the |
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eggbeater (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-18-06 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
50. The really F-ed up part of all this |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. My brother the doctor says that it's actually some low-level clerk |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
55. Insurance companies are EVIL |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
61. The former CEO of California Blue Cross Blue Shield |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Just think how many sick people could be helped with |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. I agree...trust me all the profits for an insurance |
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insane_cratic_gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
67. Pre-existing condition bullshit |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Also "pool" bullshit |
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never cry wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
72. I and my family got rescinded |
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