Is this a good way to "get back" at my only freeper friend?

[begin_within]

I have one friend who is a hard-core, right-wing republican. Not a "fundie" type at all, more of the NRA type. He recently told me that at the age of 12 he was tearing down the McGovern signs in his neighborhood in Altadena, California. He and his mother also went to the McGovern campaign office and got a lot of material and then just took it to the dump. We disagree on everything political, but get along fine if the conversation is on non-political subjects.

He has been searching for a long time for a particular 1950s educational "public information" film, which I have also wanted to see. It's not for sale anywhere, you just have to know someone who has a copy and hope that they will give you a copy. I finally located it, and I know he would just be chomping at the bit to watch it and if he knew I had a copy, he would be begging me to mail a copy to him.

However, I feel like saying, "Forget it. I'm never going to let you see it. You tore down McGovern signs in 1972. You destroyed other people's property. You thought you could get away with it. But now, 34 years later, it came back to you. Suffer."

[wtmusic]

1. Nah

Send it to him and show him what charity looks like.

[babylonsister]

2. I've discovered that life is too short

to hold grudges like these, especially if he's a good friend. I ruined a good relationship with a dear friend over politics. After a year, I called and apologized. Now we just don't talk politics. I value the friendship more than the differences.

[LeighAnn]

3. Take the High Road

Send it to him along with some printed info you think every right-winger should know.

[LA lady]

4. To tell the truth..

I hate to say it but I was around in 1972 and he would have had to destroyed a couple of million signs to have made any difference. If he feels repentant for what he did, I would move on.

[begin_within]

22. He doesn't feel repentant at all. I'll force him to make his own McGovern

sign and put it in his front yard for 6 months before I'll let him watch the movie.

[grasswire]

5. tell him he can have it if...

...he watches Fahrenheit 9-11 and Al Gore's new movie.

[begin_within]

17. I'm going to make a long list of demands, including that and the apology

to Ted Kennedy, and a few perverse homosexual stunts he must perform while I videotape them. Then I'll consider his application to view the movie he wants so badly.

[Robbien]

6. Send it to him with a note

Saying something about too bad we cannot go back to those simplier times where Americans instead of Corporations had rights and the American President didn't fight to torture its prisoners.

[warrens]

7. Ask him if he really thinks Nixon was the better man

If he says yes, fuck him, he's too insane to even talk to.

[MnFats]

10. I agree. those were bitter fucking times...

...especially the dirty ratfucking the right/nixon/plumbers gang of thugs gave McGovern, one of the most decent and humane men ever to hold national office.....McGovern did fuck uphis campaign but Nixon was an evil, evil man who should have been kept away from the Wite House.


it seemed to me that anyone who supported Nixon would countenance terror bombing, assassinations, the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and those who supported him also did so. I could not be friends with same.

does that sound like anything that's happening today?

[Freedom_from_Chains]

8. No, make a copy of it for him but put skips in at the important

parts and then act like you don't know what happened with it.

[begin_within]

13. Or I could edit in a few good scenes from my favorite gay porn videos.

He's homophobic but never breathes a word of it to me because I think he must have figured out after 15 years of no girlfriend that I'm on the other side of the fence from him (or he has a little part of himself that he hasn't dealt with yet.)

[tnlefty]

9. I'm sorry I'm still stuck at "he and his mother"! His mother actually

engaged in this behavior? Just wow. I can't imagine.

[begin_within]

11. They are both very nice on the surface, if you met them you would never

guess the evil deeds they do. It's odd because they have cordial and friendly to me for 15 years, and they're both right-wingers, while in the meantime I have had a couple of left-wing friends who have treated me like dirt - you would think it would be the other way around.

[tnlefty]

24. But I've taught my kids not to destroy the property of other people.

That stealing yard signs, etc., falls into the category of stealing. I don't go into someone's campaign headquarters to take literature to then turn around and throw it away! I've had people run me off of the road with my kids in the car because of the bumperstickers on my car. I've had people give us the 1 finger salute, and I've told my kids to smile and wave, kill'em with kindness so to speak. But to learn that mothers are into this behavior with their kids - well I guess I can now figure out that it comes from their f*^%ng parents!

I think that I will adjust my behavior accordingly!

[begin_within]

12. I think what I will do is mail it to Ted Kennedy, then send my friend a

letter telling him that he has to personally apologize to Ted Kennedy (in person, not on the phone) for all the horrible things he has said about Kennedy and liberals in general over the past 15 years, before he will be allowed to watch his precious video.

[bryant69]

14. If you feel like that why is this person your friend

If this person engenders such rage in you, I can't think that relationship is a positive one - just get rid of him.

I have several conservative friends - some of them I've let go for precisely this reason, while others I've maintained a good relationship with.

Most of them tend to be more libertatian though I admit.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[deaniac21]

15. Why are you friends? If that is the way you really feel ...

[begin_within]

16. That's a good point. I have always supressed my true feelings about his

political orientation (as I am sure he has supressed his feelings about my political and sexual orientations) for the sake of the friendship. But after 15 years, I think it's pointless.

[blue sky at night]

18. we all know you are just joshing......

think if you had done some dumb thing 34 years ago, and they were STILL holding a grudge over it...........we all have to learn to put it behind us and move on.

[begin_within]

20. I only found out 2 months ago that he did that. By the way, I am willing

to hold grudges for many years, until the absolute perfect time to exact revenge.

[LoZoccolo]

19. Will it get you more of what you want out of life?

That would be "no".

[begin_within]

21. Only the satisfaction that I got something and he didn't, something we

both wanted very much. And he's a republican and used to getting everything he wants, his way, and I'm not. So it gives me great satisfaction that through diplomacy and treating other people the right way, I ended up getting something I really wanted, and he never got it. The thing is, do I want to get any pleasure out of tormenting him over that fact or not? And why should I give him the pleasure of watching that movie, when he didn't earn it and I did? I guess I have some resentment towards him merely because he is a right-wing republican and they always seem to get what they want, no matter who they step on along the way.

[crim son]

23. Enjoy the thought,

and then prove how compassionate and noble dems are & let him see the film. You've already won the political battle, morally speaking. Chalk this up as another victory.