MOVEON.ORG: BILL TO PARDON PRESIDENT BUSH > Pls. Sign Petition >

[The Cleaner]

NOTE: This is an email sent to me from MoveOn.org political action team. It's not on their website.

This week, the Senate will vote on whether to pardon President Bush for breaking the law by illegally wiretapping innocent Americans. Can you sign the petition opposing the Republican move to pardon President Bush for breaking the law?

President Bush broke the law, and courts are starting to agree. Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter once said the program was illegal "on its face." But he has now caved to pressure from Vice President Cheney, and introduced legislation that marks a new low: the bill justifies everything the president did. Worse, it makes it legal to wiretap Americans, in secret, without warrants or oversight, whenever the administration wants to.2

So far, Democrats and some Republicans are holding strong against the bill, and there are good chances to stop it if enough of us speak up. Can you sign the petition opposing the Republican move to pardon President Bush for breaking the law?
http://pol.moveon.org/dontpardon/?id=8810-6830337-gaMtO77VdBo5xkrjNnWwgA&t=2

Here are some quick facts about the Cheney-Specter bill:

* It allows President Bush—and every president after him—to wiretap Americans indefinitely, in secret, without a warrant and without any oversight. 3

* It effectively pardons the president for any illegal behavior by forcing Congress to concede that he has the inherent authority to conduct the program4—something federal courts, numerous legal experts and many leading Republicans disagree with. 5

* It completely guts FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) which has protected the privacy of Americans against illegal wiretaps for close to 30 years.6

* It prevents any legal challenges from taking place in the public court system. Instead, it moves all cases to a secret court, where only Bush administration officials can argue it. 7

* It would help "immunize" any officials who broke the law in this program from being held accountable in the future. 8

Can you sign the petition today? http://pol.moveon.org/dontpardon/?id=8810-6830337-gaMtO77VdBo5xkrjNnWwgA&t=3

[Sydnie]

1. Done and kicked and rec'd

We all should sign this!

[focusfan]

26. i just signed it and passed it on

Bush should be stoppedand i hope people realize just how much
of a crook this guy is.

[Flabbergasted]

2. One more step to totalitarianism...

[Ezlivin]

3. Done. Kick this puppy!

This is how freedom ends. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

[verse18]

4. done

[Fridays Child]

5. Done and sent to all of my lists.

k/r

[Greybnk48]

6. Done and Kick!!

[Sugar Smack]

7. Done. Kick!

:kick:

[graywarrior]

8. Done

[B Calm]

9. Done and forwarded on to all my e-mail contacts!

[dave502d]

10. Done. n/t

[druidity33]

11. done... k&r nt

[YankeyMCC]

12. Done and kick n/t

[guajira]

13. Petition Signed and message added

I told Congresspersons to "get a backbone"!!

[file83]

46. My note: "This "Pardon Bush" Bill is the most corrupt and disgraceful..."

This "Pardon Bush" Bill is the most corrupt and disgraceful bill to wonder the floor of Congress in U.S. History.

Your vote on this unconstitutional bill will go down in the History Books FOREVER.

[AntiFascist]

14. Done....

there is too much evidence that this administration will abuse their power in every other way, wiretapping is no different.

[jazzjunkysue]

15. Done. Thanks.

[helderheid]

16. Done K & R

[halobeam]

17. Done.

[fooj]

18. Done!

[DearAbby]

19. Done...Kick n/t

[IChing]

20. done n/t

[southern_belle]

21. done and forwarded

to others. :D

[pacalo]

22. Done!

My call to Mary Landrieu's office went like this:

Me: "Hi & good afternoon! I'm one of Mary's constituents & I'd like to urge her to vote against the McCain/Cheney bill."

She: "Thank you for calling. I'll pass the information on to Sen. Landrieu."

Me: "How does Mary stand on this issue?"

She: "She hasn't made a decision yet."

Me: "Why not?"

She: "She's still weighing the facts, yadayadayada..."

Me: "Well, right is right & wrong is wrong. Please tell Mary to vote for what's right for the country, not what's right for the president."

[Subdivisions]

23. Done. K&R

[mike_c]

24. DONE!

[bear425]

25. done and k/r n/t

[ClayZ]

27. Done K & R

:kick: :kick:

[pberq]

28. Done!

[OnyxCollie]

29. Done. nt

[bdamomma]

30. signed and sent

[volstork]

31. done and kicked! n/t

[deucemagnet]

32. Done.

I had that message in my inbox, but overlooked it. Thanks for the heads-up! :hi:

[Laurab]

33. Done - k&r n/t

[Dem2theMax]

34. Done. This needs to be on the "Home" page.

And I sure wish the title of the thread could be changed. It's very misleading and I bet a lot of people won't bother to look in here.

[texpatriot2004]

35. comments:

Congress should uphold the rule of law in the United States. Congress should not continue to cover-up the crimes of this Administration. Congress should remember the Oath that was taken to uphold the United States Constitution AND their duty to provide Congressional oversight of the Executive branch of this Government.

[il_lilac]

36. done! n/t

[personman]

37. Done. K&R nt

[raysr]

38. Done. Is pissy-pants

afraid the dems will take over the house? I thought what he was doing was legal? Hah, fuck you Bush!

[Ilsa]

39. Okey-dokey. done. kick and click. nt

[watercolors]

40. Done

mt

[davekriss]

41. If it's not on their website...

...has every here just been phished?

[halobeam]

66. what do you mean?

[davekriss]

69. Look at the OP

The OP states, "NOTE: This is an email sent to me from MoveOn.org political action team. It's not on their website" (emphasis added). If it's not on their website, and (as others post) it is an unusual email address from moveon, it could be a phishing email, which means someone posing as "moveon" and collecting information to be used for other purposes. Someone down thread has contacted moveon to make sure this is a legitimate petition request. I await the response.

[halobeam]

77. thank you....

I looked at the bottom of the site/link and saw this:

Paid for by MoveOn.org Political Action, http://political.moveon.org/. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

MoveOn.org Civic Action is a 501(c)(4) organization which primarily focuses on nonpartisan education and advocacy on important national issues. MoveOn.org Political Action is a federal political committee which primarily helps members elect candidates who reflect our values through a variety of activities aimed at influencing the outcome of the next election. MoveOn.org Political Action and MoveOn.org Civic Action are separate organizations.



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I then went to moveon.org original site and they recoginize these two sites as theirs.
does this help?

[Shipwack]

87. True, but...

If it really were a scam site, it would say the same exact thing. Phishing websites often steal the whole look and feel of the web site they are pretending to be, right down to the boilerplate text.

I still am not sure one way or the other if this is legitimate. MoveOn sends me stuff 3-4 times a week, but not this letter (yet). I wrote MoveOn earlier, but so far all I've received is an auto-reply saying they got my email, but not to expect a personal answer.

[me b zola]

42. k&r

rat bastard spector!

[mcg]

43. Done.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

44. Done.

We should raise hell the way we did trying to stop the Path to 9-11.

[Triana]

45. already signed it - K & R dammit...

..that Weaselly little man ought not get away with pissing on the US Constitution.

[Divine Discontent]

47. EXACTLY! N/T KICK!

[Rainscents]

48. Done!

[howmad1]

49. Done, with pleasure!

[Peggy Day]

50. I just can't believe that we have sunk so low

that this bill may pass or even has a chance of passing. Don't people realize what the fuck is going on?
This really makes me lose hope. Sorry, don't mean to be so down, but every day since this asshole was appointed, it just gets worse and worse.

I've done everything I can think of, but it does no good. Call my senators, other people's senators (I tell them that I'm not in their district, but what they vote on affects me)
They're all such liars! How do they look at themselves in the mirror?

Fair Media and Fair Elections. That's all I'm asking for at this point.

I'm disgusted, so I'm going to bed. Goodnight all.

[Senator]

51. k&r

[DemoTex]

52. Done.

:kick:

[AtomicKitten]

53. Done -- and my head is exploding.

Just when we think we have witnessed the depths of corruption in this country, voila!!!

[Unrepentant Fenian]

54. Done

Done! Thanks for posting that. Hope it works.

[mom cat]

55. NO "KINGS X " FOR KING GEORGE!

This is what I wrote:

I am urging you to stay firm in your opposition to any bill that would legalize the illegal wiretapping of American citizens. Bush broke the law and we don't need another law giving him a King's X for his high crimes and misdemeanors. We do not need a King at all and we certainly do not need another King George.

[EFerrari]

56. Kick

[Eric J in MN]

57. done. NT

NT

[flamingpie2500]

58. done

[Mad_Dem_X]

59. Done n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

60. Done...I added

"Any intelligent and educated American adult understands the inadvisability and danger such actions would represent. The precedent would have profound repercussions for the future of our representative democracy."

Think they'll understand it? *sigh*

[TAPat]

61. Done! nt

[Shipwack]

62. I'll second DaveKriss's suspicions...

I'm on their mailing list, and I haven't gotten this either. Plus, if it's no on their web site...

The link address is similar to other MoveOn web links, though I don't think I ever got a "pol.movon.org", which isn't necessarily damning. I've gotten links for "list.moveon.org" and "political.moveon.org"

I've written them about it, and will post any reply.

::edited to add wrting moveon.org::

[LeftHander]

63. done nt

[npincus]

64. OMG- they're preparing to lose control of Congress

[lonestarnot]

65. done.

[AbbyR]

67. Done

I hope everyone will sign this - not that I think it will do any good. The Bushies seem to get away with everything they do.

[IronLionZion]

68. Done nt

[Sugar Smack]

70. Kick

[mojavekid]

71. Done and thanks! n/t

[yurbud]

72. done & rec: see my note I sent with it

I prefer our constitutional system of checks and balances to President Bush's versions of the divine right of kings.

He should be held accountable for his actions that have not only harmed Americans, but our moral authority in the world.

[grizmaster]

73. done

[yankeeinlouisiana]

74. Can I sign the petition today?

Hell yes!!

Done & kick!

:kick:

[karlrschneider]

75. Done kick & rec

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[JRob]

76. Done... NO ONE is above the law. Without limits there is no Democracy

[katywho]

78. Done.

[Rude Horner]

79. Done, and sent to all my friends and family

This is important!!

[MasonJar]

80. Done! Keep 'em comin'

[DeeDeeNY]

81. Done!

This is something all American citizens should be concerned about.
It should not be a question of a person's political party!

[dkofos]

82. Done

I support sending ANYONE voting for this bill to the Hague along with the entire * administration.

[bleedinglib]

83. kickum in the butt !!

passed on !!

[SaveOurDemocracy]

84. Done

Signed and passed on.

[redacted]

85. Done, kicked, recommended

[AirmensMom]

86. Done.

:kick:

[Slippery_Hammer]

88. Done

Passed it on.

[Seabiscuit]

89. Done and recommended.