Keith Olbermann - TONIGHT: Bush Owes Country An Apology

[kpete]

Sept. 18, 2006 | 5:08 p.m. ET

Tonight's special comment

Tune in to "Countdown" at 8 p.m. ET for another special comment from Keith Olbermann. Here's a preview:

The President of the United States owes this country an apology.

It will not be offered, of course.

He does not realize its necessity.

There are now none around him who would tell him - or could.

The last of them, it appears, was the very man whose letter provoked the President into the conduct, for which the apology is essential.

An apology is this President's only hope of regaining the slightest measure of confidence, of what has been, for nearly two years, a clear majority of his people.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/#060918a

[LSparkle]

1. Only 30 minutes to KO's "Smackdown" !!!!

KO ... Smackdown ... hahahaha ...

[Berry Cool]

6. They should change the show's name to "Smackdown with Keith Olbermann"

because KO is about to deliver another KO...

[StrictlyRockers]

104. I love Keith so much I wrote a great letter in support. of him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2174903

[Fridays Child]

2. The Punctuation Patrol sez...

...delete the apostrophe from "owe's."

(Smack me around, if you must, but I'm an apostrophe wonk.) :spank: :blush: :hide: :hi:

[kpete]

4. you have been officially slapped

with a thank you

and keep an eye out for me Fridays Child...

kpete

[Berry Cool]

7. But...but...there's no apostrophe in the "Friday's" in your name.

By all rules, there should be. O8)

[Fridays Child]

13. Can't put punctuation in user names. Imagine my frustration.

Dashes and underscores only. :(

That was a good catch, though! :hi:

[Berry Cool]

14. I did not know that.

If I were you, I would have called myself "Child of Friday." :rofl:

[Fridays Child]

15. LOL!

[PurpleChez]

84. God bless your crusade against unnecessary and erroneous apostrophes!

I know that the abominable practice goes on everywhere, but it seems especially prevalent here in Georgia, where I have repeatedly seen large, silk-screened signs in front of businesses advertising "GIFT'S", "TOY'S", "BOX'S" and so on. A local car dealership recently undertook what was easily a million-dollar renovation, and celebrated their grand opening by lining the street with numerous custom-made signs proclaiming themselves "ATHEN'S ONLY FORD DEALERSHIP". But my favorite are 'schools' that advertise for "teacher's" in the Journal-Constitution want ads. Zang. And, by the way, Bush sucks.

[Fridays Child]

96. LOL!

Greetings, fellow apostrophe cop and Bush opposer! :hi:

[PurpleChez]

109. Apostrophe cop! Bwa-hah!

I'm going on Adobe Illustrator when I get home and making myself a BADGE. Want one???

[Fridays Child]

110. Oh, my! Yes!

:evilgrin:

[rocktivity]

3. Rocknation RIGHT NOW: The country owes Bush a jail sentence!

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[billybob537]

12. Cheney thought bubble: It's hard work

Keeping this retared coward out of Jail...

[Anakin Skywalker]

5. Say Your Are Sorry, Georgie.

Be a good boy now, and apologize.

[Bluebear]

8. He owes us a resignation.

But that won't happen either.

[Benhurst]

9. Barbara Bush owes the world an apology for

spreading her thighs for Poppy.

:puke:

[volstork]

30. You've said it...

now I have to picture it in my head!!!

[doctor_garth]

54. god

that's a good one!!

She deserves worse than what they did to Dr. Frankestein for creating his monster.

[calimary]

63. Yeah, but look - when you call him a son-of-a-bitch,

you're really and truly being accurate. With apologies to female dogs everywhere, of course.

[PurpleChez]

85. Great merciful heavens!!!

What a ghastly image. The Sea Hag's yawning womanhood. Poppy's flacid tool. It's 11AM but I need a stiff drink.

[d---mad2]

93. BARBARA BUSH

She owes an apology for NOT supporting RETROACTIVE BIRTH-CONTROL

[PegDAC]

101. That's a visual

I did NOT need. :puke:

[sweetheart]

10. Fuck apologies, i'm for a hanging

I don't take treason in terms of apology. The man has deliberately betrayed the people in going to war,
in putting us all in danger and in debt for ideological puritainism, and its treasonous what these
repuglicans have been up to, treasonous. I'm for a group trial, and a group hanging, with modern
electronics, surely the trapdoors of all the leadership can be timed to drop at precisely the
same time, that the world have a time when it can breathe a sigh of relief.

War crimes is heavy shit, and i'm for a hanging, i likely will be until i'm long gone. Were there justice, it is
the thing that should find every one of these aggressive war criminals and torturers. Society can't tolerate that
kind of stuff, it makes us all very sick to be a society, peverted our selves for consuming that perversion in our
apparent civility. No, i'm not for an apology, Keith, i'm for a trial.

[Ino]

11. Apologize?!

We demand an apology... as though that in itself will make everything all right and make the apologizer worthy of forgiveness and good faith.

To hell with apologies! I don't care if he's sorry. I only care whether or not he intends to commit further outrages, if he's going to fix what he's broken, if he admits his wrongdoing without equivocation, if he takes steps towards reparations.

Apologies are for hurt feelings, not CRIMES. Not TREASON.

He owes us a resignation, signing over all his ill-gotten riches to the Treasury, and his truthful testimony about everything he & his cabal has done. He can keep his fake apologies!

That being said, I don't know what KO's referring to... what letter? which conduct?

I guess I'll watch the commentary :)

[karlrschneider]

16. Damn right! Fuck apologies. "I apologize for killing your son...

so it's all better now, right?"

When the sonofabitch apologizes from the Hague it will STILL be too late.
:grr: :grr:

[kpete]

17. TRANSCRIPT From Countdown

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/#060918b

[CatWoman]

18. No fair, Keith. Not Jefferson. Not him.

:rofl:

[OwnedByFerrets]

24. He keeps getting better and better with

his special comments. This one didnt bring me to tears like the last one did, but it had more bite. This one drove the stake in......the only problem is that there is no heart for it to find.

[CatWoman]

19. Good thing they are not in a boxing ring

cause Keith gave him several knock out punches.

He's like, "How dare you, mother fucker???? Tell us we can't fucking THINK???"

[madokie]

27. Thats the words I heard

[silverweb]

20. Bravo, Keith!

:applause:

[MrSlayer]

21. Wow! Powerful words again.

Keith knows what he's talking about. Too bad Chimp won't even hear about it let alone actually apologize.

[nuton2wheels]

71. Agreed

Keith Olberman nailed it. He was extremely eloquent and articulate and drove his points in one after the other. It's too bad we live in a country full of drooling morons who'd prefer to listen to the lies and pseudobabble offered by one Bill O'Reilly...

[merci_me]

22. OMG!! Goosebumps!! r&k n/t

[LynneSin]

23. Holy BAT CRAP - it was amazing

I don't remember Edward Murrow but I'd like to think if he was alive today he'd be the spitting image and ideology of Keith Olbermann

[PegDAC]

102. I remember Ed Murrow.

and you're absolutely right (with some minor physical differences).

[QuestionAll...]

25. fuck the apology. he should

unlock the bush coffers made by suffering of many. and put it into health and education.

some say I'm a dreamer
but I'm not the only one.

[ClayZ]

26. WHOOO HOOOO Keith!

That's telling him! Now tell him he stole the elections and we know it!

[Independent_Liberal]

28. Fucking A Right Keith!!!!

U DA MAN!

:patriot:

Let's all send thank you notes to Keith.

[ms liberty]

29. Voltaire and Jefferson in one commentary! Awesome!

I love you, Keith Olbermann!

[volstork]

31. Do you think

chimpy has even HEARD of Voltaire?

[Divine Discontent]

32. well he just read 3 books about voltaire last week, didn't ya?

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- antibush prodem stickers/shirts

[Canuckistanian]

33. Not unless he showed up at a Pioneer barbecue

And he certainly wouldn't know about this quote:

"All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."

And a big welcome to DU, volstork!
:toast:
:hi:

[Divine Discontent]

34. thanks canuckistanian

I gave about 10 welcome to DU's out in one thread to new users who were awesome, and I felt I was turning into the welcome wagon, and there's no pay in that, now is there? lol... j/k

[Canuckistanian]

38. whenever I see a post count below a hundred or so

I always give a response and a greeting.

I remember how much it meant to me.

[Bumblebee]

37. Rove explained to him he was another French existentialist - like Camus :)

[The Wizard]

55. He thinks

the new Ford model is called a Voltaire.

[ClintonTyree]

70. He's more of a Camus man...........

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Yeah, right! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[AllegroRondo]

80. He seems to think he lives in the "best of all possible worlds"

[KansDem]

112. He might have heard Dean Martin sing it...

Voltaire, oh oh
Cantare, oh oh oh oh
Let's fly way up to the clouds
Away from the maddening crowds
We can sing in the glow of a star that I know of
Where lovers enjoy peace of mind
Let us leave the confusion and all disillusion behind
Just like bird of a feather, a rainbow together we'll find

Maybe at a Las Vegas show...

[KamaAina]

35. Time for the KOTB

"Keith Olbermann Testosterone Brigade", modeled on the well-established KOEB. Why should us hetero males be left out just 'cause our hero happens to be of the same gender?

KO, :yourock:

[colorado thinker]

39. There's a KOEB??

Where have I been? Where do I sign up?

I'm now officially a push-over for KO . . . Voltaire! Fabulous!

[KamaAina]

46. Sign up in the Lounge

the Keith Olbermann Estrogen Brigade has been going strong there for months now, KO sig lines and all. It's been strangely silent this week, though; you'd expect this to be a sort of KO V-Day!

Actually I am not the first male to express the above sentiment:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5577168&mesg_id=5577168

[Shoedogg]

36. Crooks and Liars has video link up now.

http://crooksandliars.com/

[B Calm]

40. Keith rocked!!

Bush don't want us to think,

[imax2268]

41. KO IS THE MAN...!!!!

Oh yea...yet another smackdown from the "Olberman"...!!!

Nice Keith...very nice...!

[Rose Siding]

42. Holy cats, the man's bucking for sainthood

For God's sake, give it to him :wow:

[Overseas]

43. Another beautiful essay ! So refreshing to hear someone speak up !! /nt

[rosesaylavee]

44. I love this man...

what a courageous thing he is doing - speaking out like this. Who else is doing this? No one. Not one other.

[Clarkie1]

45. "It's unacceptable to think."-G.W. Bush. I want it plastered on billboards

all across America, on bumper stickers, T.V. everywhere with his name on that statement, and this underneath it:

"Think for yourself and vote."

[DearAbby]

47. Time to write another email

to Keith and MSNBC...Show him support.

Keith... WATCH YOUR BACK! Can't afford to lose you. Shame, truth has become so precious and scarce, that we have to be afraid for those who dare to speak it.

[Raffi Ella]

48. Keith was brilliant tonight.

His outrage is my outrage.He is a national treasure. :kick:

[Towlie]

49. Straw Man!

"Mr. President, former Secretary of State Colin Powell says the world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism," he was asked by a reporter. "If a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and former secretary of state feels this way, don't you think that Americans and the rest of the world are beginning to wonder whether you're following a flawed strategy?"

“If there's any comparison between the compassion and decency of the American people and the terrorist tactics of extremists, it's flawed logic,” Bush said. “It's just -- I simply can't accept that. It's unacceptable to think that there's any kind of comparison between the behavior of the United States of America and the action of Islamic extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective.

Huh? Who said anything about a comparison?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200609170002
http://news.bostonherald.com/editorial/view.bg?articleid=158059&srvc=home

Of course Keith Olbermann is very correct to criticize Bush's suggestion that certain thoughts are unacceptable. (I was sure he was going to mention "thoughtcrime".) But another very important point is that Bush seemed to imagine an argument that wasn't even there. It was an outrageous straw man if deliberate, and a frightening mental lapse if it wasn't.

[karlrschneider]

56. I just got home from a charter...welcome to DU!

:toast:

[Wednesdays]

86. Indeed...

So, the U.S. can commit atrocities, just as long as they aren't as bad as the enemy's?

Plus, *'s answer completely missed the question, which was about his anti-terrorism strategy, but he went on about the "compassion and decency of the American people." It wasn't the "compassionate, decent American people" who created the flawed strategy, it was yours, Smirko.

[Turn CO Blue]

94. Welcome to DU!

Here's the obligatory waving smiley:
:hi:

Glad to have you here. You're correct, of course. Bush is so out of it and his mind is so degraded that he tries to fit square responses into round questions. He has these little memorized phrases (which have been drilled into him by staffers) but he has no idea where and when to use them. He just spits them out there and hopes that they fit with the question.

[hatrack]

50. Thermonuclear rhetoric - thunderous, outstanding.

I'm not even a woman and I want to join the KOEB.

:toast: to you, Keith. Damn, that was FINE.

[savemefromdumbya]

51. An apology from "Big Brother"

I doubt it. You'll have to drag him kicking and screaming

[gemdem]

52. Bravo KO!

An oasis of intelligence in the vast wasteland that is today's television (in the specific and today's media in general).

[doctor_garth]

53. He owes much more than an apology

this man has destroyed this great nation, stole two elections, allowed 911 to happen, invaded two countries for no f*cking reason, gave billions from our Treasury to corporate mobsters, sent 3,000 American troops to their deaths for no f*cking reason, tortured, raped and butchered foreigners in their own land, now wants to legalize all these heinous crimes retroactively and Olbermann says he only owes us an APOLOGY???

The type of punishment for Bush after he's convicted in a court of law (I'm giving him more than he's willing to give others) is something I can't even begin to imagine.

[Jesterstear]

57. Two?

While the rest of what you're listing is pretty much spot-on, I only know of one country he invaded for no reason and that's Iraq. Of course it's late, and I could be missing the obvious...

[doctor_garth]

59. even though

the reason given to invade Afghanistan was to capture Osama Bin Laden, Bush never intended to capture him, as we now know.

The real reason was to destroy the Taliban, which prohibited the oil pipeline across the country to be built. Bush, Cheney and his corporate mobsters needed that pipeline.

[BlueCentrist]

60. yes,it's insane isn't it?

But it is the culmination of all those things that led us to this point.By calling Mr.Bush to the mat he isn't allowing him to get away with it.An apology won't be given nor was it the purpose of Olbermanns commentary.It was to give perspective and in my humble opinion he did a magnificent job at it.

Hopefully soon there will be impeachment hearings on his true crimes.

[aquart]

66. Perhaps if we use his methods he'll confess.

That evidence would be valid at trial, right? Or we could declare him an enemy combatant and not bother with a trial. George has set many valuable precedents with which to deal with his treasonous malfeasance.

It wouldn't be fun, but it would reek of justice. Do it at Guantanamo and let 'em watch.

[Joe Bacon]

58. Pssst, NBC--Dump Brian, Put Keith on your Evening News.

It's a shame that you have to have cable to watch this great man deliver the smackdown live.

Keith makes Tinkerbell Katie look like the mental midget she really is!

[Johnny Noshoes]

68. "Keith makes Tinkerbell Katie look like the mental midget she really is!"

Yeah sad isn't it CBS News Ed Murrow - Douglas Edwards - Walter Cronkite - Dan Rather - Katie Couric? Which one is NOT like the others. Now if that last one were Linda Ellerbee or Christiane Amanpour I'd say great but Katie Couric PLEASE.

"We deal in illusions, man. None of it is true. But you people sit there day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds. We're all you know. You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here. You're beginning to think that the tube is reality and that your own lives are unreal. You do whatever the tube tells you. You dress like the tube. You eat like the tube. You even think like the tube. In God's name, you people are the real thing, WE are the illusion." Howard Beale

[alittlelark]

61. That was beautiful and damning!

KO... damn... YOU ROCK!!!:yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[oasis]

62. Keith's commentary was a thing of beauty.(eom)

[EFerrari]

64. Is there a link to on line video? I'm dying to send it out.

TIA

:hi:

[PegDAC]

103. It's at Crooks and Liars

There's a link to it above somewhere.

[vanboggie]

65. Broken record

Yeah, I know I am, but keep those thank you emails flowing into Keith and MSNBC. The initial response can't die down. Abrams is actually letting Keith do this regularly now. Keep the fire stoked.
Woo hoo!

[Senator]

67. The phrase "unacceptable to think" ...

... reveals a fascist soul.

---

[kentjay]

69. i applaud olbermann,however,

he is talking to a deaf ear,a person who has no honor,he`s immoral,yes his actions over the last 6 years are immoral,more immoral then a blowjob.no one gets pleasure from a phony,everything about bush is phony.you ever see the president going and coming,he`s always waving to nobody,thats right theres no one there,its all bullshit.is this what i gave 27 years of my life for,while riding pbr`s in nam never in my wildest dreams did i ever think that the usa would be as low as it is today.we are the country that is most feared in the world,when they see us coming death is not far behind,corruption,hubris,and foolishness abounds,we are the rediculous,we are perverted,we mind others business and can`t take care of our own.how much further must we fall before the american people say enough is enough?

[nuton2wheels]

72. American Decline

Hate to say it, but we've only gotten WORSE since Nam in my opinion. More of a focus on greed, corporate dominance, and seizure of constitutional rights... Bill Clinton got a blow job and was impeached... Dubya sent over 2,000 US servicemen and women to their deaths in Iraq (not to discount the sacrifices of our foreign allies and the Iraqi people) for a war whose declared cause was later found to be a shady fabrication, yet who question his leadership since? This country's going to hell in a handbasket thanks to a pseudo-religious, coked up, alcoholic cowboy wannabe fratboy whose rich daddy bailed him out of previous failed endeavors.

[Lochloosa]

78. Welcome to DU nuton2wheels

:toast:

First time seeing someones first post.

[nuton2wheels]

107. Thanks! Here's my new user introduction...

I used to be a die hard republican, or so I thought... My background was conducive to it, anyway. Spent my childhood in a hick town with ultra-conservative parents... Went to college at Virginia Tech in the heart of KKK country... Moved to Dallas, TX and after 3 weeks, got so fed up with the arrogant Baptist pricks and their big SUVs, a pervasive indifferent stance toward the environment, statewide favoritism toward corporations and corruption, and the Bush fanatics that I finally saw the light. I mean, I'd been surrounded by the stink of Republicanism and their terrible policies my entire life, but it took moving to Dallas, TX to REALLY notice it. At that point, I took a big step towards the "radical" left and now consider myself a socialist. No offense to those of you who aren't, but a lot of Democrats seem to be in the pockets of corporations (namely former VA governor Mark Warner...) and others just seem to bolster the party regardless of who the candidate is. I hope that at some point we can turn this country around for the better and reverse all the damage dubya has done... I still can't believe that Pervert O'Reilly's show is rated #1 or something and people actually watch FNC despite their spinning and deception. I'm slowly starting to realize that one person can make a difference, but many working together is better. :)

[ClintonTyree]

73. Bush is projecting his own, personal philosophy onto us.

"It's not acceptable to think". Yes 43, we know that YOU find it personally unacceptable to think, but let the rest of us make up our own minds about that course of action. OK? :eyes:

The petulant, spoiled cockroach has once again shown his true colors. "You'll think what we WANT you to think, and that's that". Fuck you 43, fuck you........and the hobby-horse you rode in on. :mad:

[southern_belle]

74. Yeaaaaa Keith!

Keep up the great work!

:applause: :woohoo: :yourock:

[yy4me]

75. I finally printed out all those e-mail addresses. If Keith is

allowed to continue his very important essays, I'll be sending off my support messages. It was getting a little tiring finding all those addresses. Sent of 4 e-mails in support of his efforts again. Maybe I'll just put them in my address book. Go Keith. AND thank you MSNBC!

[liberal N proud]

76. Apoplexy - Olberman does it again

Keith best describes bu$h's actions

[whistle]

77. Way to go Keith Olbermann, just keep hammering away at Shrub*

...he deserves every wood shed thrashing that can be dished out for not just listening to the neoconservative fascists, but for believing their verbal clap-trap.

[connecticut yankee]

79. Olbermann is amazing!

and I'm sure he's already been called a traitor, or worse.

Has Rove gone after him yet?

[Castleman]

88. I think Keith would welcome

an attack by Rove, because he'd outsmart the shifty bastard and further reveal what a scumbag he and his criminal cronies are.


Has anyone voiced this thought yet...
President Keith Olbermann?
Has kind of a nice ring, don't it?
I know I'd vote for him...and could you just imagine the debate where Kerry wussed out on the transmitter thingy? Keith would have crushed the weasel over it.

[PegDAC]

105. My vision

is President Wes Clark and Press Secretary Keith Olbermann.

[BlueJac]

81. KO is the man........

Bush is the spoiled brat that wants his way, reguardless of anything!

[ArmchairMeme]

82. Think and vote

Think about the coalition of thinking countries which disagree with the current foreign policy of the U.S.

Think about the governmant lies in Hungary.

Think about the purpose of democracy.

Think and keep thinking.

There are other ways of finding the news other than the sad t.v. news which is now 30% sports - 30% weather/traffic and 30% entertainment. Think where is the news.

Think about the consequences of not thinking.

The currently appointed leader consistently says what he means, of course, while pointing the finger at the other. What he does is consistently unaccapteble.

In my humble opinion the answer for him is not apology but impeachment. I am sure he finds the concept an unthinkable.

[GreenPartyVoter]

83. Keith is just brilliant

[confludemocrat]

87. Geezus, God, finally someone who won't let up on these bastards!

A broadcaster stepping up to greatness like Edward R. Murrow. It's like he is considering offers to go on satellite or whatever, so brazenly forthright this guy is being, that is as if he had nothing to lose.

[rman]

89. Olbermann is in denial -

he seems to think there's a point to pleading, reasoning with the abuser. This is characteristic of the battered wife syndrome.

If the sociopaths in the WH would ever apologize, they'd subsequently continue doing what they've been doing all this time. "You wanted an apology? You got your apology. Now stop whining."

[Raffi Ella]

90. Nah,Keith is far from that.His commentary was brilliant!

He doesn't expect an apology.It wasn't aimed at Bush is was more aimed at us,We the People,to remind us that this IS the U.S.A. and this (p)Resident IS, in fact, crazy!It was meant to show just HOW crazy he is and hopefully wake some more people up to that fact.

[rman]

91. Do we really need to be reminded?

Don't most people already know this? I mean, it's been six years.

[Raffi Ella]

92. Unfortunately Yes,I think so.

Maybe not You & Me and the rest of D.U. but for the average viewer?Just as in Nazi Germany one atrocity was worse than the one before, slowly desesnsitizing the people to the horror going on before their eyes.
Keiths commentary abrubtly Says NO to the insanity,WRONG!And "wakes" people up to what is actually happening and reminds them what America is and what we stand for.

So yes,unfortunately some people do need reminding.

[Seabiscuit]

99. The American public needed to hear Edward R. Murrow slam McCarthy

and it needs to hear Keith Olbermann slam Bush.

When something like 40% of the people are so stupid, ignorant and dense that they still support that cretin, America needs a Keith Olbermann on the tube to speak his mind about Bush.

[Raffi Ella]

106. Well Said

:patriot:

[Seabiscuit]

100. None of my wife's redneck cousins in Escondido, California know this.

And almost half the country is equally ignorant. Keith's messages are the only sparkle of truth on the tube these days.

[rman]

108. Do they even watch Olbermann?

[Seabiscuit]

111. I really don't know.

But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be on TV saying what he's saying. He energizes those who watch him, many of whom will verbally convey some of his message to the zombies.

As I said earlier, The American public needed to hear Edward R. Murrow slam McCarthy and it needs to hear Keith Olbermann slam Bush. Even if some don't hear it directly, some will through others that did, and it still needs to be done to counter all the other lying crap on the tube.

[I Have A Dream]

95. God bless, Keith Olberman.

Truly, a man of the people.

[Tesla]

97. Keith is the man!!

Thank God for Keith O and anyone else who want to show their freedom of speech!!

[Seabiscuit]

98. Keith is on a roll!!!

For the past month Keith Olbermann has been dogging Bush in his "special comments" the way Edward R. Murrow used to dog Joe McCarthy.

I'm beginning to live to listen to Keith's rants about Bush!