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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:01 PM
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a really, really good article on evolution and religion
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 05:02 PM by hyphenate
The man who wrote this is a physics and astronomy professor who also has a seminary degree. While I don't believe myself in a God, he explains very eloquently on why fundies are 100% dead wrong. Because he has worked in both worlds, he is qualified to make some commentary on it.

'God allows the universe to create itself—and evolve'

Science, religion and politics collide in public-school classrooms. In the past few years, conservative Christian groups in some communities have gained control of public-school boards.

They replaced the teaching of evolution with intelligent design, or ID. Parents in Dover, Pa., even sued the school board to restore the teaching of evolution to the curriculum—arguing that ID is based on a biblical view of creation and isn’t science. They won. (See "'Not science': Judge John E. Jones" for a profile of ELCA member John E. Jones III, the judge who decided the case.)

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As an astronomer, everywhere I look in the universe—from the largest galaxy to the smallest organism—I see evolution. As a Lutheran Christian, I also confess that God created me and all that exists. For me, there is no conflict.

But intelligent design proponents believe our universe is too complex to have evolved from simpler forms and so must be the result of some design. ID traces its origins to the 1991 book Darwin on Trial (InterVarsity Press, 1993) by Phillip E. Johnson, a law professor.

Opposition to evolution, especially biological, is a hallmark of many proponents of intelligent design. The ID movement heavily influenced the 1999 Kansas school-board decision to remove references to evolution from science curricula. Those against evolution focus on what ID adherents call “irreducibly complex organisms” that can’t be explained by evolutionary theory.

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Moreover, ID is poor theology. ELCA member and Minneapolis Star Tribune commentary editor Eric Ringham wrote: “ attempts to define, and limit, the mind and power of God.” Why couldn’t God just let the universe evolve?


The rest of the article:
http://www.thelutheran.org/article/article.cfm?article_id=6093

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:03 PM
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1. "moreover, ID is poor theology."
Aha. I knew all those posts I left all over the internets would have an effect sooner or later.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:27 PM
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2. Thinking Christians have no problem with evolution
And there are plenty of thinking Christians in the world. Trying to make God into the petty character in Genesis limits God.

As this person said, ID is bad theology.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:46 PM
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3. Quantum Physics.....Case Closed....!!!
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