joemurphy
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Sun Sep-24-06 12:04 AM
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The Great Compromise: Thank you Senator McCain! |
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Edited on Sun Sep-24-06 12:12 AM by joemurphy
Consider the following scenario:
Yussuf G. is swept up by a bounty hunter in Afghanistan and turned over to U.S. forces as an Al-Qaeda suspect. He is held incommunicado for 3 years in a secret prison where he is subjected to waterboarding, prolonged standing in a single position, sleep-deprivation, solitary confinement, enforced nudity, and interrogation in the presence of military dogs. He is not given a right to an attorney. He cannot seek a writ of habeas corpus to determine on what basis he is being held.
A statement confessing to his Al-Qaeda membership is eventually extorted from him. After 3 years of confinement he is eventually formally charged as being an Al-Qaeda member and an aider and abettor of attacks on civilians. This charge, however, is based in part on "classified" information which the government deems can't be revealed. Hence he is given a redacted copy of the charge.
He is then brought before a military commission. A lawyer is appointed to defend him. The commission consists of at least 5 military officers who will pass sentence. A military judge with JAG certification monitors the proceeding. Depending on whether the above circumstances constitute "torture" under the new U.S. interpretation given to Common Article 3, his "statement" may or may not be used against him. He may not be able to confront his accusers depending on their availability and security considerations. Hearsay evidence, depending on its "reliability", may or may not be used against him.
If, following a trial, he is acquitted and found to be innocent, he will not be able to file a civil suit against the people that may or may not have tortured him.
Is this OK under "The Great Torture Compromise"?
As I read it, it is. Thanks McCain, Graham, and Warner for your "principled stand against Bush".
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NNN0LHI
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Sun Sep-24-06 12:18 AM
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1. No one is going to be acquitted and found to be innocent... |
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Edited on Sun Sep-24-06 12:18 AM by NNN0LHI
...after having confessions tortured out of them before appearing in front of these kangaroo courts. These people are going to be found guilty and put to death. Quickly.
Civil suits are going to be the last thing these people are going to be worrying about. Believe me.
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Erika
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Sun Sep-24-06 12:45 AM
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2. The GOP, the party of torture and the death of our moral authority |
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I'm so ashamed of McCain. He knew better than to vote for torture.
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flyarm
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Sun Sep-24-06 01:02 AM
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3. gee think about it if vietnam had these rules McCain would still be in |
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Prison in nam...wonder what will beome of our troops if captured anywhere in the world?? hmmmmmmmmmm
great job Johnny...
hey John McCain have i told you how much i hate your murdering guts lately?? You pond scum!
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Sun Sep-24-06 04:30 AM
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REBUKED AMERICA ON VIDEO TAPE.
Someone should SHOW THAT OVER and OVER ON TV and use it to fight these Terror Provisions.
Failure of an Organ is the basis at where they will stop? The BRAIN is an organ folks.
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Sun Sep-24-06 04:39 AM
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5. The Great Senator MccBuckle ! n/t |
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