Wallace: "I felt as if a mountain was coming down in front of me. "

[Herman Munster]

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/networks/wallace_i_felt_as_if_a_mountain_was_coming_down_in_front_of_me__44380.asp

I was utterly surprised by the tidal wave of details--emotion--and political attacks that followed.

The President was clearly stung by any suggestion that he had not done everything he could to get bin Laden. He attacked right-wingers--accused me of a "conservative hit job"--and even spun a theory I still don't understand that somehow Fox was trying to cover up the fact that NewsCorp. chief Rupert Murdoch was supporting his Global Initiative. I still have no idea what set him off.
Former President Clinton is a very big man. As he leaned forward--wagging his finger in my face--and then poking the notes I was holding--I felt as if a mountain was coming down in front of me.

The President said I had a smirk. Actually--it was sheer wonder at what I was witnessing.

I tried repeatedly to adhere to the ground rules--to move the President along--and back to the CGI. But he wanted to keep talking about his record fighting terror. When it became clear he wanted to throw out the ground rules--then I just went with the flow of the interview.

[Bunny]

1. Little Chrissie is spinning just as fast as he can, isn't he?

Douchebag.

[zonkers]

26. Bigtime douchebag. Fuck Murdoch and foriegn media ownership.

[intaglio]

34. Murdoch is naturalised American

Possibly a real case of an immigrant who should be sent back to his native land.

[SammyWinstonJack]

58. !

:thumbsup:

[zonkers]

73. There you go again, spouting facts... grrr. Too late to edit. oh well.

[MadMaddie]

2. I guess Wallace forgot that the interview was taped.....

Typical Republican he picked a fight he thought he could win and when a Dem fights back and punches him in the teath he is the victim...

Fuck Wallace ....fucking coward!!

[Reciprocity]

64. Yep he shore did, kinda like Allen .

[warrior1]

3. That's what it

feels like when your ass gets handed to you, little fuck.

[liberal N proud]

4. If he couldn't take the heat he should not have gone after that hot potato

What an asshole. What he got was what he deserved, he didn't expect it because FOX has always shut down anyone else that confronted their lies. Clinton didn't let him shut him down.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

5. Wallace was left

ball-less. Heh heh heh.... and rightly so.

[notadmblnd]

6. sounds like little chrissy is pretty traumitized by the entire episode

perhaps he should take leave and seek counceling for this horrendous scar on his psyche. What a freeking nut:crazy:

[Justice Is Comin]

7. Chris no-clue Wallace, you are a stain on your daddys reputation.

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. Then he shouldn't ask questions

that he doesn't want to hear the answers to.

[nini]

20. EXACTLY

Clinton was asked the question - he didn't bring it up himself.

[Warpy]

9. Listen, Wallace, you whiny little pissant

when you LIE to a man's face, he's going to set you straight one way or another. Personally, I think you should be picking your capped teeth out of your rectum, but that's just me. You were just lucky you did your nasty trick to a gentleman and a scholar.

You're used to being very protected at Pox, surrounded by sycophants and whores. You had to lie to Clinton to get him onto your third rate show in the first place, and you bait and switched the interview away from the subject at hand to score points on the Repuglican's rewrite of recent history.

Well, Clinton isn't the only person who remembers history, punk, a lot of us do, and we completely sympathised with Clinton's rejection of your smarmy lies set up as questions.

Get a new day job.

[CTyankee]

74. Warpy, you have outdone yourself!

Gawd, I couldn't have said it better myself. You did it all for me!

That miserable little creep, Chris Wallace. Not fit to shine Bill's shoes, much less interview him.

[whistle]

10. Chris Wallace is a shit

[seabeyond]

11. repugs so use to putting out their slimey attack question the surprise

was that someone challenged them, strongly and continued and not let him weasel out of it

[tridim]

14. Anyone other than Clinton and they just toss the tape in the bin

Clinton knew they couldn't do that with him and he went for the jugular. He outfoxed Faux.

[Nimrod2005]

12. Sounds like he wants a hug? dumb mother fuckers....

[Maine-ah]

13. "When it became clear he wanted to throw out the ground rules"

WTF, he threw out the rules right from the fucking begining. What a dink!

[Dogmudgeon]

15. Clinton went easy on Wallace

Most of the RW chickenhawks have enough brains (or is it, "lack the guts"?) to NOT confront Clinton directly with their lies. Wallace, a second-stringer, blundered right into it, and after more than five years of unrefuted lying by the Rectal Right, Clinton unloaded on him.

Yet Clinton's wrath was fully tempered. To later insinuate that Clinton posed a physical threat is a new low in RW backshooting. Five years from now, the (remaining) conservatives will be telling the story about how a "Democrat Party" death squad stalked Wallace in the aftermath of that interview.

But for now, Wallace is aggrieved that Clinton wouldn't "follow the ground rules" in a fight that Wallace himself started. Yeah, we all believe that.

--p!

[Blue Belle]

32. Yet when Bush does the shoulder poking thing...

(ala the interview with Matt Lauer) and the aggressive body posturing the fox news "yes men" call it "resolute" snd "Unwavering". The hypocrisy is un-be-fucking-lievable. :eyes:

[Dogmudgeon]

41. Excellent point!

And it comes just a week or two after Li'l Boots' series of well-rehearsed Manliness Moments.

--p!

[Blue Belle]

50. Clinton wasn't any more "physical" during the Bin Laden questions...

Than he was during the previous "Clinton Global Initiative" questions... If you notice on the crooks and liars video, Clinton waves his finger and positions himself forward even in the "friendly" question. Chris Wallace is caught in the spin and trying to make Clinton into a bully - it's backfiring big time. He did the classic Fox News "People say" and "People are asking" line of questioning and Clinton shot him down with it. Chris will know better next time than to bring a knife to a gun fight.

[valerief]

70. Oh, no, Little Billy Kristol has claimed the Manly persona. n/t

[Garbo 2004]

44. Yeah, I thought Clinton was very controlled in his response. And he gave

out far more info than Wallace wanted out there (including the agreed upon terms of the interview that Wallace broke, bet they didn't want their viewers to know about that) which is why Wallace was almost begging to get off the subject and back to the topic they had agreed to discuss. And Clinton wouldn't let him off the hook. Wallace opened the door and Clinton dragged Wallace through it. Bet Wallace had to change his shorts after that.

[peaches2003]

48. Don't ask Clinton a question and expect him to be like Bush

who doesn't answer and changes the subject. Wallace asked the question and didn't expect Clinton to insist on answering fully. The spin now is outrageous and completely laughable. They are trying make Clinton look out of control. Drudge headlines 'Purple Rage'. Faux may get away with their Bush/Rove spin machine 99.9% of the time, but they finally met their match. I HOPE Clinton keeps fighting and showing Bush to be the little cowardly weasel he is.

Edited for spelling.

[Imagevision]

16. Lil crissy, tsk, my oh my! "merely trying to adhere to the ground rules"

[nini]

17. ground rules? hmmmmm who broke the rules?

What a fucking whimp.


Fox got a taste of what it's like to come up against the big boys. Clinton is smarter than all of them put together and laid them out.


Now they have to paint him as a bully to save face? fuckers. They will never cease to amaze me - they need to get the fuck out of the big dawg's way.

[Sparkly]

18. Poor Widdle Cwissy... He didn't expect an *answer* to the accusations.

Typical, typical, typical: They "ask a question" (which is actually stating a long, multi-level accusation based on twisted 'facts' and/or outright LIES) and then they interrupt, interrupt, interrupt and try to keep the accusations going, so the Democrat being "interviewed" can't keep a train of thought going, has difficulty sorting out all the lies, and probably have to leave some standing.

(Btw, Hannity does this a LOT!! AND, he cuts away from the Democrat to leave half-answers hanging, with a final, "Well good I'm glad you agree with the president" or "So your position is more about terrorists' rights than the safety of Americans" or some such crap.)

Surely Wallace KNEW President Clinton wasn't going to let these accusations slide, but he didn't seem ready for Clinton's fire -- OR for the fact that just saying, "Can we talk about the Clinton Global Initiative now" wasn't going to slide him off the hook.

I'm sure he DID feel a mountain coming down on him -- the mountain called the TRUTH!! They're NOT used to being confronted by that in such an intense way!!

The Dawg did good! :applause:

[eleny]

19. "On You", Wallace - not in front of you

And everybody knows it.

[RangerSmith]

21. Chris, you got your ass handed to you... nt

[rocktivity]

22. A mountain DID come down in front of you, Chris--the mountain of BULLSHIT

that Faux News, the rest of the Bush media, and the extremist leadership of the Republican party have been building for the past ten years.

Clinton's not the first person who has accused Faux of offering to interview them on one subject and blindsiding them by bringing up another. I suspect that's what really "set off" Clinton. But instead of folding like a cheap tent, he blindsided you right back--and I suspect that's the real reason why you were so "utterly surprised!"

P.S. You flatter yourself by suggesting that you're even capable of smirking. In reality, you bear the permanent glazed-over stare of the intellectually-starved cartoon character that you are.

:headbang:
rocknation

[countingbluecars]

23. The mountain wasn't coming down

in front of him. It was rising up!

[Ino]

24. What a weasel

Sheer wonder, my ass. His "gotcha" smirk froze on his face when the tables got turned on him. I was cheering when Clinton wouldn't let him change the subject until he'd had his say!

[VOX]

25. **BOLLOCKS** "I still have no idea what set him off" **BOLLOCKS**

Oh yeah, this is the right-wing spin for this interview..."Clinton in a purple-faced rage"..."Clinton attacks innocent Fox interviewer," etc. and it's all ***bullshit***!!!!

Chrissie, you little right-wing shit, let's look at your "question" that started that "tidal wave":
http://thinkprogress.org/clinton-interview
WALLACE: When we announced that you were going to be on Fox News Sunday, I got a lot of e-mail from viewers. And I’ve got to say, I was surprised. Most of them wanted me to ask you this question: Why didn’t you do more to put bin Laden and Al Qaida out of business when you were president?

There’s a new book out, I suspect you’ve already read, called The Looming Tower. And it talks about how the fact that when you pulled troops out of Somalia in 1993, bin Laden said, I have seen the frailty and the weakness and the cowardice of U.S. troops. Then there was the bombing of the embassies in Africa and the attack on the Cole.

CLINTON: OK, let’s just go through that.

WALLACE: Let me — let me — may I just finish the question, sir?

And after the attack, the book says that bin Laden separated his leaders, spread them around, because he expected an attack, and there was no response. I understand that hindsight is always 20/20…
- - - - - -

Just who attacked whom? Wallace's "question" is bull-baiting of the first order, just a flood of right-wing talking-points cascading out of his foul mouth. Wallace "distances" himself from the allegations by saying he "got a lot of e-mail from viewers" who wanted him to ask, blah, blah, blah -- so, it's not poor, pitiful Chrissie who's reeling out these deep-dish talking points, it's coming from his emails. Bullshit.

Chris Wallace, shame on you. You are a hack using his father's pedigree, no more than a right-wing tool and a festering pustule on that absolute ass-end of cable TV, Faux News. :grr:

[Botany]

27. Bill Clinton ripped Wallace a new ass

Wallace was trying so hard to get out the repug talking point that Clinton
and company are responsible for al Qaeda & ben Laden ..... Clinton would
have none of it. He knows that Disney crap and the awful commercial that
is being run by "Move America Forward," try to paint Clinton as the bad guy
for not getting ben Laden.

Remember no lie is too big and nothing is out of bounds for these shits .....
IT IS ALL ABOUT POWER

[rocktivity]

40. I KNEW there was someone Chris Wallace reminded me of...

From post #22: ...you bear the permanent glazed-over stare of the intellectually-starved cartoon character that you are.

Tweety, meet Stimpy!



:rofl:
rocknation

[Tellurian]

46. Wallace ended up as

the sacrificial lamb set out to bait and trap the Big Dog, catching him off guard.

The emails Wallace spoke about, no doubt amounted to just *ONE* from Karl Rove's office.

Good on ya, BD...wished I had seen the interview..

[grytpype]

28. What a shit.

n/t

[mindfulNJ]

29. The Faux news hack

is so used to the right wing spin he forgot who he was talking to...what did they expect Clinton to say!!? He seized on the opportunity he was handed to by Mr. Wallace, and it's about time. I'm very surprised they even aired this! I fully expect this whole thing to be spun by Faux as Clinton gone nuts..ala the Dean Scream.

[Kali]

68. don't worry - that is EXACTLY the spin.

[cynatnite]

30. I'd say the mountain fell on top of him in this case

:evilgrin:

[blonndee]

31. Wah, wah. Just because you made a fool out of yourself is no reason

to continue doing so, Chris.

Didn't he know better than to try to fuck around with the Big Dog? Doesn't he remember what happens when Bill gets pissed off? He's no pansy who's going to roll over and unlike the stumbling boob we've got now, he doesn't turn into a tantrum-throwing child either. Clinton's intelligence and verbal acuity made Wallace look like the bumbling shill he is.

[Marr]

33. "I tried repeatedly to... move the President along..."

No shit. When Clinton actually answered his question and it made Bush out to be the fuck-up that he is, Wallace anxiously began trying to "move the President along".

What a schmuck. I'm glad someone spanked his smarmy ass.

[boobooday]

35. He's just plain giddy!

This is what I love -- the "Democrats over the edge" meme. They used it on Al Gore, they used it on Howard Dean, and now they are using it on Clinton.

But they swallowed every iota of Zell Miller's spit shower at their convention, and saw him as the voice of reason.

[tuvor]

36. Some cheese with your whine, Chris?

[Nickster]

37. Not used to a real man throwing it right back in your face are ya Chrissie

Friggin bastard, you expected him to stumble and bumble his away around the questions like your best buddy Dubya, but you forgot how articulate are last real President can be. Next time bring a helmet you smarmy bastard.

[Garbo 2004]

38. The ground rules were the first half of the interview was to be about CGI

& Wallace blindsided Clinton by not sticking to the agreement early on with a loaded question based on an erroneous premise created by the RW noise machine and perpetuated by Faux News. And Wallace is surprised at the result?

For years Clinton had to make decisions that could effect millions of people, life or death decisions. (What are the toughest daily decisions Wallace has to make, what toothpaste to use?) Clinton was stymied in the actions he could take both from within his administration (the FBI, CIA and the Pentagon) and in Congress. And still his administration tried, despite criticisms of "wag the dog" and ridicule of his "obsession" with Bin Laden from the RW and the subsequent Bush administration. (And no doubt if Clinton had succeeded in getting Bin Laden, the Repubs would have roasted him over it.) And now when they try to rewrite history, Wallace shoves it in Clinton's face and expects Clinton not to call him on it?

Clarke's book is indeed a illuminating read.

As for Wallace's assertion that he did ask the questions of Bush Administration reps when Clinton challenged him, Think Progress checked it out: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/24/clinton-video/ And of course, Wallace hadn't.

[Swamp Rat]

39. Wussy Wallace got served!

What a whiny pantywaist! :eyes:

[MODemocrat]

42. Wallace badgered Clinton, it would make anyone angry

I taped the whole thing as we watched it today; and I don't remember Clinton poking Chris's notes. I'm
going to watch it again to make sure. Chris Wallace has been put in his place by Big Dog, and not a day
too soon. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[SammyWinstonJack]

67. I think President Clinton was poking his leg, it looked like too me.

:shrug: He did get up close and personal with Wallace. :rofl: Guess the little coward was :scared: :rofl: Don't mess with the Big Dog! :bounce:

[MODemocrat]

81. At one time, I felt sorry for Chris because he looked so shrunken

He always asks the democrats the hard questions, and I've never seen him go after too many republicans.
I wanted Clinton to say that Bush was the one who gave Osama 43 million dollars right after he was
inaugurated; All in all though, I thought Bill Clinton brought out a lot of things in his anger. The
missing millions was a good one. :toast:

[tinfoilinfor2005]

43. What do expect from a man who tries to sell out his own father?

Boy, Mike must really be wondering whatever he did in his life to deserve this piece of shit for a son.

[Raffi Ella]

45. FAUX nooz threw out the ground rules

as soon as they hit the air waves,period.It was a case of sandbagging the man,plain and simple.Only Clinton didn't let the fucker get away with it.

Go Big Dawg Go.

[lonestarnot]

47. He should have stomped you like the cockroach you are Wallyworld.

[princehal]

51. When did you stop beating your wife?

That really is what that question was.

[lonestarnot]

55. Well I guess we shouldn't have expected much more from Wallyworld.

[Raffi Ella]

53. well some would say he did

Stomp the cockroach...that's why they're up in arms :evilgrin:

SPIN FAUX Nooz,SPIN!!!!Before your viewers realize Clinton's right!!!haha.


In the end some will realize the truth about FAUX nooz and the facts surrounding Clintons time in office and some won't but Clinton got some truth through on that channel and for that I am glad.

Long Live Democracy,Long Live Big Dawg! :kick:

[lonestarnot]

54. WoooT! BC! Long Live Big Dog!

[Raffi Ella]

59. HA!

WOoooo! :toast: :patriot:

[lonestarnot]

60. And I'll drink to that too!

:toast: :patriot:

[pinto]

49. BS. Wallace set up the question from the start. Clinton called him

on it. And I don't blame him, given the retroactive smear campaign being waged to apparently justify Bushco's failure in Afghanistan. "But, Clinton did it, too" - doesn't hold water anymore.

And I love that Pres. Clinton called him on the typical RW set up - it's akin to the President's "some people say" - that Wallace used to present his accusation.

[Blue Belle]

52. The other thing Clinton did was own his mistake....

Something you won't see from Bush. He also pointed out that he was the only President that has come close to killing Bin Laden too... unlike the current Administration that really has no excuse for not "finding" him yet.

[Strawman]

63. Clinton can actually articulate why he thinks he made a mistake.

Bush will occasionally say something like "sure we made mistakes" because someone tells him that he is supposed to say that, but he really doesn't believe it. He's not even remotely close enough in terms of intelligence and articulateness to pull off a performance like Clinton did in that interview.

I think Clinton has really kind of mastered the art of how to push back against this right-wing spin crap. He has certainly had enough practice. He's really been articulating this stance of aggressively fighting back against right-wing rhetoric lately as a blueprint for the Democrats this November. He really kind of laid this out in the New Yorker article and in that interview, we got to see it in action. The facts have always been troublesome for the Republicans but today we're dealing with real problems, and it's harder for them to hide them and spin their way out of them. It's alot easier for them to pull their shit over bullshit like "Whitewater," "Travelgate," and a lie about a blow job.

[Raksha]

69. And BushCo had Osama in the cross-hairs at Tora Bora too...

I just wish Clinton had managed to work THAT in! That would have made the smackdown even more perfect than it was.

[pinto]

72. Yeah. He was up front about that, fwiw. I thought it was interesting

that he chose to relate the CIA and FBI's hesitancy on a strike against bin Laden in Afghanistan. Interesting in that he needed them to sign off on a decision to use military force. Makes sense to me. Interesting in that Mr. Bush felt no such constraints when he chose to invade Iraq, regardless of intelligence advice. Big difference in decision making and the application of Executive power. I'm really glad this was on Fox and that I was able to watch the snips on crooksandliars...

[tinfoilinfor2005]

56. If I were a cartoonist (unfortunately, I possess no talents), I would draw

a cartoon of Clinton wiggling his fingers at Chris, saying "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA", and Chris perched on top of a chair crying "Daddy, please save me from the big mean man!" And next to him is Mike Wallace saying, "Sorry son, no can do. I'm just a senile old coot, like you told everyone on television, so I can't help you."

[SammyWinstonJack]

57. Smirking little creep. What did he expect? Not what he got, I guess.

:rofl:

[Rowdyboy]

61. The best part of Chrissie ran down his daddy's leg.....n/t

[lonestarnot]

62. Just like the whole bunch of these repukes! Coward yellow piss'n

crybaby motherfuckers. Stand up to the motherfuckers and their heads explode from "FRIGHT" BOOO BITCH BOOO! Now run the fuck home and change your fucking pants you yellow redwearin' bitch!

[peekaloo]

65. Wallace should sue the mortician who embalmed him.

He's freaky looking.

Now that he has an extra poop chute does that mean he'll spew shit twice as much?

[rocktivity]

71. This Crooks and Liars video should give you a clue

as to who recommended the mortician to Chris!

link

:headbang:
rocknation

[peekaloo]

75. *sigh* My aging craptop won't play C&L or youtube.

:-(

but I see a Stimpy reference by you upthread.....:rofl:

[tjwash]

66. What a perfect poster boy for the 101'st keyboard warriors he is.

...fucking coward just forgot that he was not 1000 miles away and safely behind his keyboard when he talked his fucking lies and libel.

[rainbow4321]

76. No, sweetie...that was just a little rock slide

The actual MOUNTAIN comes down on your repuke regime in Nov 2006/Nov 2008....

[truebrit71]

77. Chris Wallace is a fucking punk...

...and get smacked in the *ussy for his attempted sandbagging of the Big Dog...

You go toe-to-toe with the Big Dog you'd best have all of your shit in one sock...

[ComerPerro]

78. the right always embraces victimhood for themselves

[JerseygirlCT]

79. Oh Poor Chris... you know, I feel sorry for him

NOT

[Roland99]

80. Well, what do you expect you fucking tool? Your wife worked for Bush, too!

[LTR]

82. Oh, what a pussy!

Typical cowardly crybaby conservative.

:eyes: