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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:17 PM
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crack down on US chicken owners - even your pet chicken


http://www.buzzflash.com/mailbag/06/01/mai06026.html

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Subject: Terrorist Chickens

You have to go to a New Zealand paper to find this out, but the gummint is about to crack down on all who own a few chickens or livestock. Agribusiness, of course, will be the beneficiary of this new, Nazi-like rule, wherein all animals owned by the little guy will have to be registered with Big Brother. Read about it here, and find out how to stop this nefarious scheme in its tracks:

The Real Deal: Tagging Terrorist Chickens (scoop.co.nz)

Farmers, Breeders Faced With Animal-Tracking System Deadline (technewsworld.com)

John Lovejoy
Lebanon, Oregon

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guess the city of Key West will have to reg. our free range chickens to save their lives
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:19 PM
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1. That does it!
Why do the Chickenhawks hate our chicken's freedoms?

:mad:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:37 PM
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2. Yes, keeping track of livestock is very Nazi-like, isn't it?
Talk about hyperbole. :eyes:

For those who have a few chickens:

Q. If a Person Raises Animals for His or Her Own Use and the Animals Never Leave the Owner's Property, Do They Need to be Identified?
A. Under the current plan, animals that never leave a premises do not need to be identified. However, animal owners are encouraged to identify their animals and their premises, regardless of the number of animals present, since many animal diseases may be spread whether an animal leaves its home premises or not. Examples of such diseases include West Nile virus, foot-and-mouth disease, vesicular stomatitus, and equine infectious anemia.

http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/newsroom/factsheets/nais_qa_factsheet.shtml


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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:59 PM
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10. maybe but the legislation is not written that way
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 02:00 PM by pitohui
it may be poor wording but the proposed legislation i saw would require you to register even one chicken -- even one parakeet! -- the only exemption in there was for small number of pet dogs or cats

the rabbit people would have to register too and they seemed to have more awareness of the impact of this law than other pet-owners do

it goes way beyond chickens

if the legislation was passed as written then you'd basically have to register and also allow your home to be open for inspection if you had anything other than a fish, cat, or dog, it seemed that you would not really be secure from random searches either, altho doubtful they would be performed except if some neighbor didn't like you or if there was some other reason someone in gov't wanted to hassle you

but then that's why we object to all such nuisance laws, isn't it, because they give gov't a wedge to hassle anyone who dissents, no one is going to dissent if it will cost them their pet

i saw the legislation in august, i hope it has been corrected since then, but i rather doubt it, the senate has been a little busy w. other matters i should hope and think
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 08:16 AM
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12. So you can't take your rabbit to the vet, or your horse to another pasture
unless you pay $$$ to chip it and register it with the government, AND you have to keep a log book keeping track of when you take your rabbit/horse off your property. What do you do when your rabbit gets sick? Ask a vet to come out to your house to see it?

I think the real intent behind the law is to squeeze the small-time livestock raisers out of the market so they don't compete with the big agribusinesses sponsoring this legislation. The large businesses aren't required to track their animals individually; only the people who own a single cow for their own use have to do that...
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 01:56 PM
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14. correct - it's the meat and poltry barons getting rid of competition
nt
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:39 PM
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3. This is just more bullshit
from Independent NEWS:

*snip* IF THEY’RE NOT FIGHTING DISEASE, THEN WHY NAIS?

Follow the money. Ask, Cui bono? Who benefits?

Agribusiness lobbied the USDA to create a system to protect them from legal liability if an epidemic does break out. More, NAIS would protect agribusiness market share, forestalling a public revulsion against their product by “confirming” that only a few animals were sick, rather than not thousands. NAIS enables huge agribusiness conglomerates that concentrate thousands of animals (and so concentrate the chance for spreading diseases) to point their finger at someone else.

People in Sheboygan get sick from something they ate.

It’s determined the meat came from a local fast food joint.

That fast food joint gets its meat from ABC cow factory.

ABC cow factory buys cows from XYZ feedlots.

Those feedlots had cows numbered 1q10 through 1q500 in their possession and those cows came from 15 small farms in suburban Tempe.

Goodbye 15 small farms in suburban Tempe.

Hello scapegoat for fast food joint, slaughterhouse, and feedlots.
To protect themselves these large corporations will effectively to put small farmers out of business. Not only the program costs (which fall on the farmer), but also the threat of fines and jail time for not complying will drive small farmers off the land. At the same time, NAIS sets up the same corporations as the only entities granted the ‘privilege’ to raise animals, since they, of course are the only ones who can be trusted to follow such a plan to protect the “national herd.”

*snip*

Just another way to take farming to a new, Orwellian level
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:49 PM
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4. I've suspected my phone's been tapped for months.
:tinfoilhat:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:50 PM
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5. hehehe...
:)
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:07 PM
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6. First they came for the chicken owners and I did not speak out
Couldn't resist
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:15 PM
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7. Henrietta says "poop on them"
Henni is my pet chicken, and damned if I am going to register her with anyone. Besides they have to find her here... there are certain advantages to living in a county that Directory Information can't find...

Never mind the bird, be afraid of the (armed) owner...
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oneoftheboys Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:29 PM
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8. One thing about chickens...
they will poop on anything.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:55 PM
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9. before katrina i was active in trying to stop this
now i'm just overwhelmed and can't take it on but this issue is still an important one

where is food security if you are not allowed to keep the simplest device ever for converting garbage and worthless insects into valuable protein?

the good old gop -- don't register your automatic weapons but register your pet chicken -- christ on a crutch
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:48 PM
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11. GOP silliness
I shall not register my chicken or guns. Much chicken poop on all of these goons.

They will pry my pet chicken out of my cold dead fingers.:evilgrin:
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 08:18 AM
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13. Automatic weapons are registered with the Federal gov't
and you have to pass what amounts to a Secret-level government security clearance to own one, per the National Firearms Act of 1934.

It's ridiculous to require people to register their rabbits, though...
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