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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:19 PM
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STOP REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA --- has been update with Mark Foley
Newest three


* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.


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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:22 PM
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1. Throw 'em in jail!
Seriously. Pedophiles are the sickest of the sick out there. So if gthe aforementioned pedophiles can be rehabilitated in prison, then that's ok. But they must see jail like all other pedophiles. And if something unfortunate befalls them while locked up, they should have thought of that beforehand.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:22 PM
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2. STOP OVERWROUGHT DEMOCRATIC HYPERBOLE
Foley's not a pedophile. Look up the definition of the word.

Those other two desperately need to see the business end of the justice system, for sure, but I'm getting really sick of seeing Foley called a pedophile. It's untrue, and at best it's sloppy and ignorant, and at worst it's slanderous.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:24 PM
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3. WRONG... all the children he targeted where under 18
I call that a Pedophile...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:30 PM
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9. Well, that's unfortunate because your perceived definition is dead wrong.
Look it up. It's in that big book holding up the leg of the coffee table.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:41 PM
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16. Wrong again
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile

In contrast to the generally accepted medical definition, the term pedophile is also used colloquially to denote significantly older adults who are sexually attracted to adolescents below the local age of consent<1>, as well as those who have sexually abused a child.

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Strictly speaking, this definition would include many adolescents and prepubescents, for whom such an interest might be normal; thus, some experts add the criterion that the interest be toward children at least five years younger than the subject. However, according to some experts, a diagnosis of pedophilia can also be appropriate for a post-pubescent adolescent.<4> See entry for sexologist Dr. John Money.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:31 PM
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11. a pedophile isn't someone who goes after underage kids
it's someone who is attracted to little children.

teenagers are not little children. legally they are still minors and there is still an age issue. but attraction too teenagers is not pedophilia.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:38 PM
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14. check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile

In contrast to the generally accepted medical definition, the term pedophile is also used colloquially to denote significantly older adults who are sexually attracted to adolescents below the local age of consent<1>, as well as those who have sexually abused a child.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:43 PM
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20. Local age of consent in the jurisdiction in question is -- wait for it...
16.

Next...
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:24 PM
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4. STOP MAKING SENSE!
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 07:25 PM by Nutmegger
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:26 PM
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5. OK
lets use Child Predator instead.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:28 PM
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6. You're right
But he's still a pervert
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:47 PM
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19. A fucking freak! Just like the rest of them.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:30 PM
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10. That bugs me too. Too much ignorance about what
pedophilia is.

Attraction to pre-pubescent children ie those who have not developed secondary sexual characteristics.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:37 PM
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13. Underage victims = pedophile perp.
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 07:40 PM by WinkyDink
And MY dictionary says "sexual attraction felt by an adult toward a child". Period. Nothing about "pre-pubescent".
"Child" is defined for criminal purposes as "minor". And the law happens to trump any DMS-IV.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:21 AM
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21. For criminal purposes, the kid was of age of consent.
Pedophile isn't a criminal term, anyway. It's a clinical term.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:31 AM
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22. Congratulations
You've been awarded a position in the democratic party's firing squad! Please pick up your rifle and take your place in the circle.

JESUS H. CHRIST MAN!! Stay focused! We are trying to win an election here. If you are uncomfortable with the term pedophile than use "child molester" or "sexual predator" or "pervert".

What you are doing is defending Foley! Do you get that? Do you understand how you are being perceived? I don't think you mean to, but that is what is coming across.

The message is "Foley is a Bad Man." Can you live with that? Try to stay on message.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:29 PM
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7. This one is also on that list (an oldie)
Remember the case of Susan Smith who killed her two little boys back in 1994? She had been molested by her stepfather as a teenager.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

She was spared the death penalty in a decision by her South Carolina jury, after her stepfather, Beverly Russell, a prominent Union County citizen, Republican Party and Christian Coalition leader, testified that he had sexually molested her when she was a teenager (until the intervention of the local Department of Social Services), and again in the months before the drowning of the two boys. Russell was never charged with a crime, despite the fact that he was accused in court of, and did not deny, the molestation and incestuous sexual abuse of his teen aged stepdaughter.


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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:29 PM
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8. The P in GOP stands for Predator or Pervert /nm
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:35 PM
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12. Definition of pedophilia
It's being sexually attracted to prepubescent children. If Foley was going after a 16-year old, he's not a pedophile. He's in trouble because the kid is still under-aged though.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:38 PM
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15. It didn't stop reichbots from calling Clinton a pedophile ..
... even though Monica was over 21 and far from being below the age of consent ... and even further from being prepubescent.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:42 PM
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17. Not according to The American Heritage College Dictionary.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:45 PM
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18. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile

the term pedophile is also used colloquially to denote significantly older adults who are sexually attracted to adolescents below the local age of consent<1>, as well as those who have sexually abused a child.


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Strictly speaking, this definition would include many adolescents and prepubescents, for whom such an interest might be normal; thus, some experts add the criterion that the interest be toward children at least five years younger than the subject. However, according to some experts, a diagnosis of pedophilia can also be appropriate for a post-pubescent adolescent.<4> See entry for sexologist Dr. John Money.
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