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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:30 PM
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Bait. Foley. Bite. DU
Does it not strike anyone here as perfect timing for this Foley info to come out? I mean c'mon, people. They've known about it for a year or more. You all are taking the bait. Being led by the nose away from the real issue of the day. THE DEATH OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS! How many threads are needed on the topic of Foley? So everyone can feel so superior about a Repug getting caught and being shown up. You all are being played. It's no wonder this country is dead.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:31 PM
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1. No it is the Perfect GOP ShitStorm, Enjoy the Glory of it ALL!
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 09:32 PM by bushmeat
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:31 PM
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2. This story will be over in a couple of days -- not to worry.
In the meantime we can simply enjoy the fact that there will be one less Republican in Congress. That's not a bad thing, IMO.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:31 PM
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3. Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Apparently some of us can't.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:34 PM
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9. I Will Take My Crumbs Peasant That I Am
Bring it on Foley you fuck.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:36 PM
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Ja, what's wrong with more than one curse operating simultaneously?
I guess the old 3-ring circus would be dead in today's world because there's just too much going on at once for the booboisie to process.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:45 PM
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26. New snarky word for kestrel's dictionary: booboisie. LOL
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:48 PM
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27. Booboisie ain't new. It's a theft from H.L. Mencken.
About 80 years ago.

The same guy who said "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the American taste."
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:21 PM
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45. One Of My Very Favorites, Sir
"Any normal man must be tempted at times to hoist the black flag, spit on his hands, and begin cutting throats."
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:32 PM
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4. it's like peanut butter and chocolate though
they taste great together.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:32 PM
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5. You're kidding right?
The genius Rove move was to distract us....With a Republican Congressman pedophile?

I know you may not like hearing this and it's sad to say, but to the average American? THIS sorta stuff is way more important than the constitution.
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:35 PM
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12. Clearly
It has worked.

It is sad and true, what you say about the average American.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:25 PM
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46. Yes it is! That's exactly why I've been rubbing the Freepers' noses in it
on another forum. The passage of the War Crimes Protection Act yesterday is a much more critical issue, but nothing gets people's attention like SEX! I actually dislike sleaze and scandal, but I've been playing it up anyway because it's a lot more important to most people than the Bill of Rights. It's a hell of a sick country we live in!
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:32 PM
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6. Haven't you ever felt the need to laugh after a funeral? n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:33 PM
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7. My mom always said, if you don't have anything
worthy to say, don't say anything. You've been trying to rile up people for awhile.
Do you think the 'issue of the day' wasn't discussed yesterday? And since you're constantly
thinking, why not think of ways to get your country back instead of being a naysayer all
the time?
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:39 PM
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20. snatching defeat from jaws of victory.....
a small victory albeit.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:02 PM
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34. I can't see where any of this is a plus for the gop.
No matter how I take it apart, I can't see how you can give them any kind of credit for using a strategy on this thing.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:05 PM
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35. I can't either. The OP likes to stir shit up and slink away.
And I'm not trying to call anyone out. Just the facts!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:10 PM
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38. Geez, whenever I stir up shit, I try to at least take the gaff.
By the time I'm done I have usually made a bet or two that I end up having to pay off later. :(
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:15 PM
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41. I really try not to incite but that's all the OP was doing. And you
are polite in your stirring! :hi:
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:12 PM
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39. Looks like the OP is no longer with us. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:17 PM
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42. I think that was the intention all along, for whatever reason.
:shrug:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:21 PM
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44. Post 33
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:30 PM
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48. Post 36
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:42 PM
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51. Bingo!
:P
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:33 PM
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8. Aaaaaaahhh shaaaaaadddup
Sometimes, things just happen. Not everything is a fucking conspiracy.

Jesus. I've never seen a board so dominated by paranoia.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:36 PM
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18. How's The Baby Babykinds?
Love her to death now? It takes awhile. I am sure she is fabulous!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:34 PM
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10. We should revel in every chink in their hypocritical armor
I might feel sorry for Foley if he wasn't at the Head of the GOP Morals Police that are also trying to gut the Bill of Rights.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:34 PM
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11. The whole news cycle isn't a Rove masterminded conspiracy
Republicans may have thought that they were rebuilding momentum for the congressional races, but this story definitely stalls that momentum, or perhaps even reverses it.

We just basically clinched a new seat in the House and further exposed the other party as the party of hypocrisy. Let's try to enjoy a good thing. The torture story will still be there on Monday.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:35 PM
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13.  Sex sells.
Here, too.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:36 PM
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14. If I could possibly dream up something likely to get
the churchies to stay home in November, it's a Republican Congressman cybersexing teenage boys and the House leadership covering it up.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:36 PM
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15. speaking of a superiority complex
"You all are being played. It's no wonder this country is dead."

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:36 PM
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16. Not bait. Fuel.
Fuel for the fire.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:36 PM
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17. Umm, Huh? Someone Had The Goods And Decided to Release it Now
To do the most damage, right before the election.

What you're saying makes no sense at all. A trap? A distraction? Give me a break.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:41 PM
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50. "Someone had the goods and decided to release it now..."
Maybe not necessarily someone on "our" side. Maybe someone we normally think of as being on "their" side, or the real string-pullers behind the curtain, has decided Bush and the congressional Repukes are a liability and has decided to take them down. The timing really is extremely odd, and extremely damaging to the Repukes.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:38 PM
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19. Nope, no reverse spin here - they had the parents quieted
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 09:38 PM by ShortnFiery
but the information was leaked to The Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW). They waited for ABC to put up the story, then published everything they acquired.

Nope, they thought that they had buried this story.

The last thing they want is for a Republican Representative; part of the leadership within The House; deputy whip; Member of the powerful Ways and Means Committee; and Chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus to EVER, I repeat EVER be discovered sending sexually explicit IMs to Current and Former Pages.

Nope, this blew up in their faces.

We need to drive home "The Cover Up" by Denny Hastert and a number of other House Leaders.

But Oh, they claim that they were only thinking of the situation of the boy and his parents. Sure. :thumbsdown:
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rusty_parts2001 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:44 PM
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25. Right On!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:53 PM
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29. Great take, ShortnFiery...
Good sift.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:56 PM
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52. Thanks Tom and Rusty :-)
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:16 PM
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53. That Shimkus bastard should be tarred and feathered, as well.
What a fucking liar.

This thing should go, big time.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:39 PM
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21. Hypocrisy, Duplicity, Corruption and Incompetence
our very own October surprise is coming into focus.

Republicans will be toast.

Limp stale soggy toast.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:40 PM
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22. Yeah, what a brilliant plan by the republicans to give up a safe seat...
... in a highly contested midterm to cover up a story that the media wasn't covering in the first place. On a friday too so everyone forgets about is over the weekend. Even better.

I guess some people see conspiracy everywhere they look. :eyes:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:40 PM
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23. What do you want us to do instead, oh board nanny?
What shall we do about the Bill of Rights in our computer dens on a friday evening? We await your orders.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:42 PM
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24. one seat closer to a house majority
Not a big deal to you?
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:58 PM
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31. You obviously still believe
that the system works. The game is over.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:59 PM
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33. .
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:06 PM
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36. ..
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:59 PM
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32. Bingo
:thumbsup:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:48 PM
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28. Naw Seth...they knew about it for far longer than that
but they thought they had it under wraps. They didn't count on him being unable to resist temptation.

Let me share with you a quote of his when he was "outraged" about a nude camp in Florida, with boys as young as the page.



"It's putting matches a little too close to gasoline," he said. No shit Mark, no shit.



He was running for Senate at the time, but rumors were circulating that forced him to abandon that race.



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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:56 PM
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30. Better check under the bed...
...might be a boogeyman under there.

To paraphrase Freud, sometimes a GOP child exploiter is just a GOP child exploiter.

- as
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:07 PM
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37. they did not want this story to come out. they do not want their coverup
to come out. this is all bad.... for republicans. there is too much shit on republicans. people are TOO tired of it. this is not something they put out to cover something else
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:15 PM
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40. Following Foley Pedo chain back to House leadership is way to get it back
Time to roast Hastert in a spit and feed him to a huge mound of red ants.

Include everyone in the chain. This could tunnel out a nice, bit chunk of the House leadership and maybe snag a Senator or two as the fence sitters turn away from Pukes in disgust.

Look, this ain't rights or freedom we are talking about here. It's SEX! Americans have been trained to react to sex with rapt attention, intense suggestibility and with money. Time to make that pay off for us.

If we want to win, we will play this thing until the whole map is blue.


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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:20 PM
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43. Yeah I'm being played. You are the only person on DU
who can see right through this :eyes: While I agree the timing is suspicious, I also know that no repuke in their right mind would want a congressman with an "R" next to their name to get busted for soliciting children 5 weeks from election day. This is a guy trying to molest children and you are saying that it's being used as a smokescreen? Nothing like being really smug... and wrong.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:29 PM
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47. It doesn't matter
In fact let's assume otherwise. That all is as it seems. This story about Foley just came out due to circumstances that involved no planning whatsoever.

- At the same time as this story The Writ has been assaulted if not eliminated;

- Baghdad is under lockdown due to possible coup;

- Oaxaca is under siege by Right Wing elements who wish to "restore order";

- US criminals have been retroactively absolved of their inhumane acts;

- The Earth is undergoing catastrophic climate change;

And so on.

So let's assume this to be the case. Foley's sordid and disgusting transgression as THE hot topic? Seems only a tremendous project of social engineering could pull this off.

Maybe Nero wasn't the only one fiddling.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:32 PM
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49. just adding it to the list of GOP scandals that's all
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:27 PM
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54. locking
member is no longer with us
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