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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:16 PM
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Bush Officials May Have Covered Up Rice-Tenet Meeting From 9/11 Commission
Bush Officials May Have Covered Up Rice-Tenet Meeting From 9/11 Commission


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As a Counsel to the 9/11 Commission, I became very familiar with both the PDB and the Phoenix Memo, as well as the tragic consequences of the failure to detect and stop the plot. A mixture of shock, anger, and sadness overcame me when I read about revelations in Bob Woodward’s new book about a special surprise visit that George Tenet and his counterterrorism chief Cofer Black made to Condi Rice, also on July 10, 2001:

They went over top-secret intelligence pointing to an impending attack and “sounded the loudest warning” to the White House of a likely attack on the U.S. by Bin Laden.

Woodward writes that Rice was polite, but, “They felt the brushoff.”

If true, it is shocking that the administration failed to heed such an overwhelming alert from the two officials in the best position to know. Many, many questions need to be asked and answered about this revelation — questions that the 9/11 Commission would have asked, had the Commission been told about this significant meeting. Suspiciously, the Commissioners and the staff investigating the administration’s actions prior to 9/11 were never informed of the meeting. As Commissioner Jamie Gorelick pointed out, “We didn’t know about the meeting itself. I can assure you it would have been in our report if we had known to ask about it.”

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Was it covered up? It is hard to come to a different conclusion. If one could suspend disbelief to accept that all three officials forgot about the meeting when they were interviewed, then one possibility is that the memory of one of them was later jogged by notes or documents that describe the meeting. If such documents exist, the 9/11 Commission should have seen them. According to Woodward’s book, Cofer Black exonerates them all this way: “Though the investigators had access to all the paperwork about the meeting, Black felt there were things the commissions wanted to know about and things they didn’t want to know about.” The notion that both the 9/11 Commission and the Congressional Joint Inquiry that investigated the intelligence prior to 9/11 did not want to know about such essential information is simply absurd. At a minimum, the withholding of information about this meeting is an outrage. Very possibly, someone committed a crime. And worst of all, they failed to stop the plot.

– Peter Rundlet

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/30/911-meeting/
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:20 PM
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1. Pssst! The 9-11 Commission was mostly a White-Wash
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 08:24 PM by ShortnFiery
In Particular, I despise that War-Mongering Bob Kerrey - PNAC Signatory. :grr:

Sure, there were glimpses of accountability and true findings, but mostly is was a cover-up to sustain Dear Leader and his coven of "willfully incompetent" ghouls in the months leading up to 9-11.

On Edit: Mr. George Tenent: Was that Medal of Freedom worth being a traitor to the People of This belove Country? I'm sure many professional operatives within the CIA who have since been forced out, truly appreciate your deceit ... essentially selling them to the likes of Porter Goss & Co. :grr:
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:21 PM
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2. What did they know and when did they know it.
We learned that investigative tool during Watergate.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:27 PM
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3. What's lost in the filter of "bi-partisanship":
The dictum, fiercely enforced at every level, was that the Commission would be "bi-partisan" in its composition and its every action.

Finding and having to promulgate clear evidence of dereliction of duty by the Bush team was in fact anathema to the bipartisanship dictum.

In other words, by its very nature, the 9/11 Commission was designed so that it couldn't handle the truth.

And this is why I think the truth will inevitably make its way to the light of day, as that temporary stricture recedes and the fuller story is told.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:17 AM
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16. bi-partisan = one more cover for this gang of thugs
Just like Teresa La Pore the head of the Volusia County, BOE aka "madam butterfly ballots"
was a democrat .... wrong she had been a republican before and had worked for Saudi Arms
dealer A. Kashoggi .... cover story.

In Ohio 2004 ... the county BOEs had to be clean ... they had dems on them .....
but come recount time ..... who helped fix and fight the recount the dems.

If this gang told me it was cold & dark in Nome Alaska @ midnight on Xmas day I would
but on my shorts & sun block.




BTW I came up with is as I was swimming in the Bleever Pond

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2272293&mesg_id=2272293
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:27 PM
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4. There's a reason they weren't put under oath.
And it's not because they were telling the whole truth.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:35 PM
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5. So they wouldn't be caught in the same trap that ensnared Clinton.
You can only commit perjury if you're lying under oath. Other than that, you're just plain flat-out lying.

Not only were bush and cheney not sworn to tell the truth, they refused to allow the proceedings to be recorded. When I heard of that, I knew the 9/11 Commission was going to be a very tragic joke.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:45 PM
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6. from what I recall being discussed here, they CAN be prosecuted for
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 08:45 PM by Gabi Hayes
lying to Congress, or a presidential commission, regardless of whether they were under oath.

not that they will, of course

you should read the comments which follow the blog, but only if you want to get even more angry
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:10 PM
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8. But a Republican Congress loves to be lied to.
Makes them feel better about all their own lies.

Thanks for the info. :thumbsup:
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:51 AM
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13. Without a written record what's to prosecute?
It'd be literally he said vs. she said, and the black woman in a place of power comes out on top in that contest.
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:12 AM
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14. I was wondering that myself...
I am -very- interested in knowing if Mr. Woodward has anything physical proving this, or at least a few high level witnesses willing to be publicly named.

If so, he needs to get the corroboration public before he is declared an "enemy combatant"...
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:08 PM
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19. I was talking about somebody like Rice when she made statements
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 01:16 PM by Gabi Hayes
to the 911 Commission. those are all recorded, and if it can be shown that she knowingly lied, she can, and SHOULD (but will not, of course), be prosecuted for making false statements to congress, or duly constituted commissions.

From the US Code

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > § 1001 § 1001.

Statements or entries generally

(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.


(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.

(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001001----000-.html
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:04 AM
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12. kick
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:01 AM
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17. How the hell much more obvious does this Rice cover-up have to get?!!
Bush actually believes the world is stupid, this putz is going to fall bigtime, by the time they get thru with him, we will be informed from late-breaking news stories; "Bush resigns today effective at noontime".
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:00 PM
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24. But it would be interesting if Rice, Black and/or Tenet ....
... had been under oath in front of the 9/11 Commission. Rice and/or Tenet & Black should be prosecuted for impeding the investigation if they didn't mention this meeting.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:10 PM
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7. July 21 2001..john asscroft warned not to fly commercial jets
so he used private chartered jets at the cost of 1600.00 dollars an hour. This is 11 days after the supposed
tenet-rice meeting. but there is more..
When Tenet testified in public at the 911 hearings he was asked this question,"did you meet with the chimp during the month of August?" tenet replies,"NO" chimp was in crawford and I was in Maryland. So I accept that
however later in the afternoon on that same day both tenet and kean appeared on camera to amend tenet's sworn
testimony to include meeting the chimp on August 18 2001 2 days after Moussouari was arrested, and August 25 2001 tenet spent the day at the ranch in Crawford with rice, and some war hawk generals, also on August 31 2001 when chimpy came back from vacation just in time to have the Labor Day weekend off. My question is,"what did they discuss at those 3 subsequent meetings" Osama, Enron, h'm.. I'd like to know because if they failed to discuss the Phoenix Flight Memo, Asscrofts threat assessment, the Aug.6 01' PDB (alright you covered your ass memo) then their guilty of gross dereliction of duty

2001 the summer of threat, the system was blinking red..

LIHOP or MIHOP.. certainly not just 19 arabs brought down the WTC and please don't send this thread to the dungeon..
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:02 PM
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9. Kick
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:20 PM
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10. Can anyone say:
Obstruction of Justice? Send all three of them to prison!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:35 PM
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11. Bush cut 18 pages from 9-11 report, this sh*t pisses me off!
Bush; it's simple, we just omit anything we don't want the american people to be aware of, it's really that simple.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:14 PM
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25. he's making more paper dolls with those pages
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:26 AM
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15. kick
:kick:
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:57 PM
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18. Independent Investigations are key
Only when sworn, recorded testimony, obtained by an Independent Investigative unit takes place is there the slightest hope of arriving at the truth. Even then the specter of not asking the questions that need be asked looms large - what a sorry situation Washington has become. History will not be kind to the start of the millennium here in the United States - Liberty and Justice will have been set back decades - possibly back to the times of the Red Scare and McCarthyism if there isn't a change in Washington to a more bi-partisan control of government.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:55 PM
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20. Two names - Cheney and Rumsfeld
After the disgrace of the Nixon Resignation can anyone really express surprise that these two hacks would participate in the manufacture of a premise to go to war in order to enact and pass Legislation like the Patriot Act and the Torture and Detention Bill?? There now exists the legal means for them to obtain any piece of information on anyone they want in this country or to classify dissidents as 'threats' - to suspend habeas corpus if they choose and effectively eliminate the competition?? BE AFRAID - BE VERY AFRAID
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:56 PM
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21. Bush/Cheney cover-up free pass to Rice is a given
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:00 PM
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22. Oh. puleeeeease someone tell me that the mainstream media is
going to pick this up.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:31 AM
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23. "Don't swat flies"
that was the policy of Bu$h. IOW, he was more or less instructing the security apparatus to let the terrorists to give it their best shot. That fit into his agenda to take-over this country and surpress his political opponents who would have objected to his plans to take this country to a state of war.

As for the 911 commission, it was little more than another Warren Commission, more interested in furthering the political agenda of the assassins, than getting to the truth of what happened. You can look to "single bullet" Spector on how this was done, that and Gerald Ford, soon to be president.
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