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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:17 PM
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So, it REALLY DID take a Sex Scandal to hurt the GOP
We've often joked about it here that Bush could eat a baby on live t.v. and not get impeached; the only way it seemed he would be impeached is if he was caught getting a blow job by an intern. Well, it wasn't bush getting a blow job, but it was a REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN SEXUALLY PURSUING an underage page.

Americans gave him a pass on protecting us from the terrorists on 9/11 even though he knew well in advanced that the Al Qaeda was determined to strike on U.S. soil.
Americans didn't seem to care that he lied us into a war costing thousands of soldiers lives, over 20 thousand wounded, 100s of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians and 100's of billions of tax payer dollars.
Americans felt it was ok for Bush to illegally spy on Americans in the name of national security.
Americans felt it was ok for Bush to suspend habeas corpus, hold civilians as enemy combatants indefinitely, and illegally torture them.

And Americans felt it was ok for Congress to ignore their duty and act as a rubber stamp for Bush's FASCIST agenda.

Well, the republofascists got caught, literally with their pants down, and it turns out, they've known about it and allowed it to happen for nearly a year, endangering the safety of the pages that work in our government.

And that, apparently, is what Americans really care about. I am disgusted as well at these heinous actions of the republicans in power. But their acts in the past on other matters have been just as heinous. It's about time Americans realized how disgusting these filthy fascist pigs really are. And that is what will lead to overwhelming Democratic victory this fall and the eventual impeachment of the Bush administration.

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:20 PM
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1. From your lips to the Goddess' ears
n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:20 PM
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2. It's not yet clear to me that they're "hurt" by this.
Not at all. Time will tell, but the public reactions I've seen and heard don't lay the blame at the GOP's door or connect it with the fundamental corruption in that end of the political spectrum.

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:23 PM
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3. It's not the fact that it happened, it's the fact that they covered it up
for roughly a year, allowing this congresscreep to continue his illegally lecherous behavior, and providing opportunity for someone who should have been considered a sex offender be allowed contact with underage pages who he lusted after.

That's what is going to take them down.

Remember, he only resigned when HE WAS CAUGHT IN THE PUBLIC EYE... not when he was caught by the GOP LEADERSHIP.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:40 PM
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13. Ding, ding ding.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:42 PM
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16. Me too..
... there is huge potential damage here, but I won't be surprised if the "fair and balanced" MSM dummy up and let this die as fast as they can.

We'll know within a week or two if this has legs, I'm refusing to get my hopes up, although I do believe in justice eventually - and this would be as good a time as any.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:06 PM
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21. I seem to recall this other Repub congressman from Florida
who had a young female staff member who was found dead in his office from a blow to the head. Yet that was all hushed up, and the guy now has his own TV show.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:02 AM
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26. Yep, the right-wingers' cognitive dissonance
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 07:02 AM by tenshi816
is kicking in. Some are already bringing up Bill Clinton - well, of course. I've read in one forum that what Foley did was no worse than what Clinton did because they were both involved with "kids". Never mind the fact that Monica Lewinsky was a 23-year old woman who has admitted that she made the first move in the affair with Clinton, whereas Mark Foley was actively pursuing underage teens.

Edited for typo.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:24 PM
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4. That's how stupid Americans are.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:30 PM
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7. it's simple for people to understand a sex scandal
Someone posted that on another thread but it's true. all the corruptions takes a few brain cells to figure out and right wingers are intellectually lazy - they could understand if they wanted to but they just don't want to expend the energy. It's an easy win to do the republican thing - and after all winning is everything here in America.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:25 PM
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5. A Book,,, A Sex Scandal and tonight the Bush FIRED Colin P....
This is not going to be a good week for Bush... :evilgrin:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:38 PM
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11. "Bush FIRED Colin P" - Where did you learn this?
I haven't seen anything about it.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:41 PM
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14. Yup its on another thread... I think it's an excerpt from a book. Gee,
the books sure are coming fast and furiously.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:51 PM
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17. I just found it in a thread on the Woodward book
Thanks!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:29 PM
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6. Are they hurt? Foley is the only one who is going to be hurt by this
Sorry, but after six and a half years of this crap I can't believe this is going to bring down the administration.
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nradisic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:30 PM
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8. Oh Yeah?
Just watch...and enjoy.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:30 PM
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9. I'll wait until Nov 8
before I weigh in on this. I suspect that most Repugs are just thankful it isn't their Congresscritter that was doing this and will march proudly to the polls in November to pull the lever for the (R) candidates.

Maybe it will make a difference if this scandal takes down Hastert and a couple other obstructionist pedophile protecting twits. We shall see.

The fact that Webb isn't 20 points ahead of Allen right now speaks volumes about how loyal the Repugs are to their nitwit representatives. Amazing.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:31 PM
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10. I'm sure with every "bad news for Republicans" story, more and
more people are thinking "This is the last straw". There's some who will never have a "last straw", but I think that's about 18% of the population, maybe less.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:40 PM
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12. Call Boys in Reagan Whitehouse Was Worse
bunch of child molestors.

This is the tradition of the Grand Old Perverts:

They know how disgusting it is, so they act like they
are protecting children,

I am not saying Reagan did it, Bush 1 was VP at the time.

this is a long pattern of the GOP.



http://www.sanderhicks.com/franklin.html
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:41 PM
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15. The icing on the cake would be...
bush knew. Any takers on this?
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:02 PM
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18. Did Jeb Bush know?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:12 PM
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19. The American people have been trained to be outraged at
sexual misbehavior and to be blasé about violence. European countries used to censor mainstream American movies and TV programs for violence.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:42 PM
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20. yeah
I'm feeling that disconnect too...after all these myriad abuses of the Rethuglicans the big tipping point is a sex scandal? Not to say that sexual predation is not serious, just that I feel like I'm stuck in the Land of Literal Extremists. Children have to be threatened before people get what's going on? Maybe this narrow focus functions as the receptacle for bigger fears. A concrete outlet for frustration.

But what about all the people who have died already from the serial abuses of this administration? And those who will still suffer from it's misguided policies.

Can people really not see when they oppressed?
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:19 PM
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22. Why didn't the Porter Goss/Congress hooker scandal elicit outrage?
In my view, that was just as rotten as Pagegate. The media let that one go but is all over this one. Why?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 06:36 AM
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24. Because children weren't involved in that
This involves youths. And the guy basically admitted guilt by resigning. Furthermore, there was a coverup protecting the sex offender. Believe me, the Catholic church lost a huge number of members over the sex abuse scandal, and the biggest attrocity that drove people away was the protection of the offenders. The GOP will likewise lose members over this, especially those with families that have children.

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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:17 PM
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23. considering scarborough, the GOP had a live boy and a dead woman!
and then there's that freak who talked about watermelons and donkeys, who are apparently warm, moist, and vibrate, and santorum and turtle sex, so i guess they cover all the bases! :D
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 06:44 AM
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25. Drip, drip, drip.
I've got a feeling this is the tip of the iceberg we're hearing about so far. Wonder if Foley belongs to NAMBLA.
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