FOLEY STORY BECOMES MUSHROOM CLOUD!!! NYT FRONT PAGE

[Beetwasher]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/washington/01foley.html?hp&ex=1159675200&en=a7760582db028fd5&ei=5094&partner=homepage

G.O.P. Leaders Knew in Late ’05 of E-Mail

WASHINGTON, Sept. 30 — Top House Republicans knew for months about e-mail traffic between Representative Mark Foley and a former teenage page, but kept the matter secret and allowed Mr. Foley to remain head of a Congressional caucus on children’s issues, Republican lawmakers said Saturday.

--snip--

"Anyone who was involved in the chain of information should come forward and tell when they were told, what they were told and what they did with the information when they got it," said Representative Peter T. King, Republican of New York. Mr. King called it a "dark day" for Congress and said, "We need a full investigation."

Representative Christopher Shays, Republican of Connecticut, said any leader who had been aware of Mr. Foley's behavior and failed to take action should step down. "If they knew or should have known the extent of this problem, they should not serve in leadership," Mr. Shays said.

--snip--

This story just became a mushroom cloud. :nuke: :wow:

[yorgatron]

1. this might survive the "friday news dump"

and make it well into next week!

[Beetwasher]

3. Front Page Of Sunday Times Guarantee's It's the Story of the Week

n/t

[TahitiNut]

48. Front Page, above the fold, column 6

[gristy]

73. An earlier edition had it below the fold on p. 1

So this is pretty amazing.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

101. i like how they sanitized the headline. n/t

[gatorboy]

28. This one's gonna be here for awhile.

Hell, this news makes the Allen thing look tame in comparison. And that story is still going.

[populistdriven]

41. time for 'OBL' to release a *new* tape

[malaise]

62. The new tape has arrived on schedule

Atta and someone else although that sure doesn't look like Atta.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

102. yep, already relased. Just like clockwork.

theyre really not even hiding it anymore, when you think about it.

[central scrutinizer]

103. look for gas to drop to $1.19.9/gallon

and I wouldn't advise any pretty blonde coeds to go on vacation anytime soon

[peaches2003]

68. Watch the airports

Within 24 hours there will be an 'alert' at some airport or on some plane and airline pax will have to go through another song and dance routine to board a plane. Terra, terra, terra.

Unfortunately, the public will probably have their attention diverted from Foley in order to kiss the feet of our esteemed dictator for saving us from the those scary Mooslums. Rove is arranging it right now. Does the public never catch on??? :banghead:

[No Exit]

80. Apparently, not every "October Surprise" is orchestrated by Piggy Rove

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. Ah, I love the smell of mushroom clouds

in the morning. Or any time of day for that matter.

[MadMaddie]

4. A dark day for Congress....I think he meant a dark day

for the Republican Party.....

[originalpckelly]

5. Cue the Dragnet theme...

Dun-Duh-Dun-Dun-Dun-DUUUH.

Oh I think this might be the straw that breaks the page's back.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

6. A Dark Day for Congress?

Au Contraire, Peter, you drunk. It's a dark day for Congressional Repukes.

A small but telling distinction. You clowns, drunks, thugs and perverts ain't the congress. Just the malignant part of it.

[bleever]

24. Your tone is harsh, but

still too kind.

:thumbsup:

[hatrack]

46. You just made me laugh out loud.

I'm going to have to remember that line!

:toast:

[davidinalameda]

7. the Repukes are either growing backbones

or abandoning a sinking ship

[janx]

17. The latter.

It's election time! ;-)

[davidinalameda]

50. pretty much

[formercia]

67. The "i'm not one of them" Republicans

The Republican campaign song for 2006

50 Ways To Leave Your Lover

The problem is all inside your head
She said to me
The answer is easy if you
Take it logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To be free
There must be fifty ways
To leave your lover

She said it’s really not my habit
To intrude
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t be lost or misconstrued
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave your lover
Fifty ways to leave your lover

CHORUS:
You just slip out the back, Jack
Make a new plan, Stan
You don’t need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free

She said it grieves me so
To see you in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
To make you smile again
I said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

by Paul Simon

[WilliamPitt]

Running for cover

[Cha]

76. I say the latter, too. This one is just too

much too cover up. Thanks, mark foley, not for doing it but for getting caught, you pigsty.

hasert still hasn't done about thing about that other congressional criminal, ney, from Ohio, has he?

[joefree1]

8. Sunday talk shows gonna be interesting

Gonna be fun watching the repukes try to change the tune on this one. :popcorn:

[Cha]

77. "Clinton did it too". Like the AMericans

can't tell the difference. repukes and the dumbing down of America.

[NewJeffCT]

9. Shays feeling the pressure of a tight race?

calling for members of his party to step down?

[me b zola]

42. That stood out for me as well!

:)

[originalpckelly]

10. Well with a leader named John A. Boehner, you knew something sexual...

would happen.

[Danascot]

92. Not to mention Dick and Bush

[chat_noir]

11. screen cap

[kansasblue]

12. just for clarification....

The emails are fairly tame. It's the IM that are sleazy. Some times they clarify that point in the newscast. If someone just got the emails then it's not such a big thing. But the IMs are where they talked about masturbation and boxer shorts, etc.

[Beetwasher]

13. True

But this is STILL good.

[Infomaniac]

79. Where there's smoke, there's fire

The repedophile leadership knew about the emails for months and kept them secret. The leadership also did not investigate to see if there were other improprieties or crimes. Why not? If the congress critter was a member of the Democratic party, we would have had a sequel to the Starr Report. The repedophile leadership did a "nothing to see here folks" before taking any basic investigative steps. Hell, they could have called Dateline NBC to bait the sumnabitch. Why? Because protecting kids from a pervert isn't on their agenda.

Shays is probably worried about this for reasons closer to home. The former repuke mayor of Waterbury was convicted of sexually assaulting two girls, ages 8 and 10 at the the time of the attacks, and this received wide media attention in CT. Shays is concerned about guilt by association.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/07/26/mayor.arrested/index.html

[Marr]

14. Hey! Anyone remember that thread here yesterday about Free Republic-

the one where all the Freepers were blaming Democrats for keeping this knowledge secret and 'endangering children so they could score political points at a crucial time'?

I realize it would hardly be an event to uncover deep hypocrisy at Free Republic, but what do you suppose those morons think about this? Is hiding this knowledge for political reasons still a horrible, unforgivable sin, Freeps?

[liberalhistorian]

18. Not if it's repukes, it isn't.

Freeps have an uncanny ability to blame everything on anyone and anything else, even if they have nothing to do with it. Everything's the fault of Dems or Klintoon, regardless of what it is or what the circumstances are. When a repuke does something, it's always the fault of Dems. ALWAYS.

[boobooday]

64. They were doing that at first

But they soon had to give it up as the details emerged.

They tried really hard, as you might expect, but then that gave way to feeling pissed off and betrayed, as you might expect. This whole thing has definitely done some damage to the base.

[D23MIURG23]

15. Streight out of left feild too.

I wonder what this will do to the october surprises kkkarl had planned? It seems like the kind of story the mainstream press loves to jump on...

[april]

16. hear hear ..Do not keep a secret..but they do ..for bUSH

[longship]

19. [Q] Is it printed above the fold?

Front page, above the fold is big news.
I hope so. This cover-up deserves big coverage.... hehehe ;-)

[Beetwasher]

23. Well, Right Now It's Only Top Story (Above Fold) Online

Haven't seen the print editon yet.

[TahitiNut]

51. Yep. Column 6 (far right - sooo appropriate, huh?)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2271232&mesg_id=2272375

The Front Page layout is essentially identical for both the city and national editions.

[lonestarnot]

20. tee hee.

[rox63]

21. I wonder if this means the Dems have finally learned

to fight just as dirty as the rethugs?

[Beetwasher]

25. Except This Ain't Dirty!

It's all truth and totally righteous. Nothing dirty about it.

[glitch]

86. We tell the truth about them. They just think it's dirty

because the truth about them is dirty.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

52. Hastert's opponent is learning--see his post at dKos, calling on DH to resign

374 replies so far!

See also http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2267912&mesg_id=2271825 for links to the Democratic opponents of the other Republicans most vulnerable in the House Teen Page Sex Scandal Coverup.

From http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/30/212758/946 :

"Response to Hastert/Foley Pagegate Scandal, by John Laesch

Sat Sep 30, 2006 at 06:27:57 PM PDT

This is John Laesch, the Democratic candidate running against Dennis Hastert. Our campaign office reports that the phone has not stopped ringing all day and the Inbox on our e-mail account is exploding. We know that Dennis Hastert has been the "cover-up" guy for everything that is wrong in Washington. Hastert has been cleaning up messes all the way from this Wednesday's "get out of jail free" detainee bill that he gave to George Bush to gutting house ethics rules after Tom DeLay was indicted.

I am currently working with Danny Stover who is running against Shimkus in Illinois' 19th District ... This morning we held a press conference in St. Charles, IL and I basically said that it is time for Dennis Hastert to resign. If he does not do the honorable thing then voters should fire him on Nov. 7th. I started my speech with some of Hastert's own words from a 1998 press conference. "Even though our children may be at home with the doors locked," "that doesn't mean that they are safe. We must continue to be proactive in warding off pedophiles and other creeps who want to take advantage of our children...It's not infringing on liberties, it's about protecting our kids."

Apparently proactive in Washington means waiting 11 months... Exactly one month ago today Dennis Hastert made the front page of the Kane County Chronicle, a local paper, that covered Dennis Hastert's town hall forum on Internet safety. Protecting children is OK for Dennis Hastert when it is earning him votes, but he doesn't give a damn when it is a page working on Capital Hill. The fact that Hastert tried to cover this up is reason enough for him to resign. ..."

[vssmith]

65. This will look good on Hasterts resume

when he applies to become the next Bishop of Boston

[LoZoccolo]

22. I don't trust these Republicans speaking out about this.

This could be a whitewash! They act outraged now, but what if they're doing that to make it look like a real investigation took place and not a cover-up? I don't trust these elected Republicans! We need an independant investigation!

[ProgressiveEconomist]

58. Notice they said, "step down" from leadership, not "resign" from Congress

[Cha]

81. No, I didn't notice that..I read as

resigning from congress..why should they get to stay in congress with a cover up like this?

[JohnnyLib2]

26. The sharks smell blood

and who knows how many want Hastert's job? This is delightful!

[Recursion]

31. Bingo

who knows how many want Hastert's job

Damn straight. He's been the Accidental Speaker since Livingston and Gingrich got taken out by Brill (ah, those were the days -- and what the hell is Brill up to now, anyways?). Lots of Cassiuses have that lean and hungry look about now, especially given the disastrous state their party is in.

[kentuck]

27. The bottom line:

“It looks to me that it was more important to hold onto a seat and to hold onto power than to take care of our children.”

[LiberalEsto]

89. And these pages are GOP children

with GOP parents.

[KnaveRupe]

96. ...who would obviously sell their own children for a tax cut.

The GOP parents whose kids are acepted as congressional pages are NOT the Wal-mart-shoppin', NASCAR-watchin', red-state values voters.

They are the kleptocrats who have been abusing the above-mentioned folk. These pages are the children of "Bush Pioneers". And their parents couldn't give two shits less about them, or they'd be calling for the GOP leadership's heads on platters.

I mean, c'mon! If the Democrats take back the Congress, those folks might not be able to afford that private island they've had their eye on.

[TheTrueBeliever]

29. In honor of our esteemed Rep Mark Foley...

In honor of our esteemed Florida Republican Representative Mark Foley, a little bumpersticker humor:



Feel free to reproduce it: original files here.

[Beetwasher]

30. Ha!

Welcome!

[TheTrueBeliever]

37. A Little Ironic Humor w/implied reference to Rep Foley & Bill Clinton...

A Little Ironic Bumper Sticker Humor w/implied reference to Rep Foley, Bill Clinton, the Gay Marriage issue, and the right-wings zealous crusade against "Internet predators":



Feel free to reproduce it: original files here.

[TheTrueBeliever]

38. And one more...

This one hits em where they live!



Feel free to reproduce it: original files here.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

56. Great Foley Quote: "They's sick people. They need mental health counseling

True Believer, you are really truly on a roll.

Folks check out this:

Why is it that the social conservatives who are the most virgorously crusaders of protecting us from our "social ills" also seem to be the ones that are most often caught with their hands in the cookie jar? My, my. I think though doth despise oneself.

(It's good know that karma is finally making a comeback in Washington DC after having been gone for more than half a decade...

http://www.thetruebeliever.org/2006/09/i_think_though_.html

[Imagevision]

93. Foley: "The Bitch set me Up"

[Bjorn Against]

70. Welcome to DU!

Good to have you here

[Cha]

82. Welcome to our

humble board, DU!

[KAZ]

32. Use it against your local Puke.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=150x13441

[riderinthestorm]

33. I wish. I truly wish. BUT I think most Americans are so truly

immunized that they just don't internalize any bad shit re: the Republicans.

There is a kind of wierd lethargy and when you point out the truly heinous, immoral shit most Repukes are engaged in, soccer moms just point to terra, terra, terra.

I know. I've had these conversations with real soccer moms in the most red-district areas and they just can't wrap their brains around "cutting and running" or "GW Bush is a good Christian".

I've had real arguments with these people, asking for real evidence of their beliefs ("please give me any evidence that the violence in Iraq is only perpetuated by foreigners, not just disgruntled Iraqis!") and they just melt away, and then avoid me for weeks, months (years!) rather than provide proof.

True Witness
CD #6Congressional District, Roskam v. Duckworth, Wheaton, IL

[glitch]

87. Cheer up. These are the same weak minds that won't want to be associated

with the Greed-Oil-Perversion party once the screen is pulled back (they don't mind as long as no one else sees through the illusion but once everybody does, watch them turn, like buzzed sheep).

[Justice Is Comin]

34. And you know the beauty of it.

The pages haven't even been on television yet. Notice I made that plural.

Wait until the story gets a young innocent face attached to it.

[brook]

43. no link, but...

the crawl on Fox last hour quoted Hastert calling for criminal investigation on the heels of Foley's resignation. Is Hastert feeling some heat?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

35. Are the freepers outraged about this? Oh the humanity!

[Bluebear]

36. REPUBLICANS: CAN'T BE TRUSTED WITH OUR CHILDREN!

[No Exit]

83. No sh*t! They've been killing them in Afghanistan & Iraq since '01!

The repuke motto must be, "First you f*ck 'em, then you kill 'em!" Sheesh, even I didn't think they'd end up being identical with... serial killers.

[Cha]

84. republiCONs can't be trusted

with shite but, yeah, Especially OUR Children!

[blitzen]

39. Peter King is an Ass, but once in a while I respect him...

for instance, when he voted against impeaching Clinton. And now on this Foley thing.

nonetheless, he remains a warmongering hawk

[Auntie Bush]

40. If they take Shay's suggestion...

"any leader who had been aware of Mr. Foley's behavior and failed to take action should step down"

There won't be any Rethugs left. :bounce: Congress will be half empty. :woohoo:

I can just see the president giving his State of the Union address
with half the chairs behind him empty.

[Clarkie1]

44. They are all up against the wall.

The unprecedented violence and curfew in post-invasion Iraq

State of Denial

Foley

There strikes...they're going down, and we need to keep attacking them harder.

[Ksec]

45. This IS big. Coverup is even bigger...

Especially since it has the "coverup" which always gets ya. Both Hastert and Boner are guilty of the coverup. Oh man. The shits about to hit the fan on this one.

[hatrack]

47. But what of CLENIS?? The omnipotent malevolent phallus has yet to speak!!

I haven't heard a WORD yet from the Wang Beyond Space-Time, and must await/obey it's imperative commands!!

I stand ready to welcome your orders, O Mighty Clenis!!!`

[kerry-is-my-prez]

49. let's hope those leaders are all up for election.....

can we say lunch meat....

[ProgressiveEconomist]

53. For URL links to the Democratic campaigns against the most vulnerable

Rs, see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2267912&mesg_id=2271825 or http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/30/235256/619 .

[Bjorn Against]

71. All members of the House are up for reelection

Before Friday Hastert's seat looked far out of of reach, now it definately looks in play.

[Union Thug]

54. Republicans are the family values party....

Just think about how sick these bastards are: they love death, and war and have no real issues with child sex. But, GODAMMIT, don't you dare have an abortion! Won't anyone think of the children?????????????????/ Gawd I HATE these people

[DKRC]

59. Abortion pisses them off because you're reducing the number of

available children for them to molest, deprive of any solid education, & eventually send off to death somewhere with our oil!
How dare you! :sarcasm:

Yeah, I hate these people too.

[brettdale]

55. kick

kick

[Quixote1818]

57. I had a feeling this would have legs. ELEPHANT LEGS!

I heard about this story on the radio and it hit me that this could be HUGE!!!! Republicans protecting a pedophile is creepy and disturbing as hell! This story will be devastating for Republicans!

[Swamp Rat]

60. Wow! A sex scandal is going to knock down the GOP house of cards.

I find it amazing that mass murder, torture, rape, treason, etc. all together was not enough, but a fucking sex scandal... oh well, whatever works to destroy the GOP is fine by me.

[Hissyspit]

95. Those were my thoughts, too. Swamp Rat. Americans slaughtered?

Constitution shredded? No big deal. A sex scandal? Bring down the government! Full coverage! But you're right: whatever works.

[klook]

61. And you know Foley must've ACTED on these urges

and doubtless has kiddie porn to boot. The IMs and emails are bad enough, but if that comes out it'll be 20 mushroom clouds.

[boobooday]

63. They have been a ticking time bomb of hypocrisy for a while

But this one came out of nowhere, and it is SOOOO typical, and SOOOO revealing. It's more than just Foley. Their general M.O. has been exposed.

[LynneSin]

66. Why did the NYTimes put a picture of Mahoney & Kerry with their story?

I know that Mahoney is the opponent, but I also know that the majority of Americans glance at the front page of their newspaper and never really bother to read the articles. So now here's an major headline banner about a sex scandal with underage boys and with it is a picture of probably someone does not recognize and John Kerry, whom everyone recognizes.

I glance at that and to me it's almost like they want to drag in the democrats somehow remotely into this story. Kerry's involvement is nothing more than campaigning for the democratic candidate. They should have had a picture of Foley hanging out with other Repukes!

[Arugula Latte]

90. Yep ... I noticed that too.

Nothing is unintentional with these rags.

[leesa]

69. Yup. Torture? What torture?

[helderheid]

72. WOW! The Rs are calling for accountability? KING who said we'll take care

of the counting?? WOW!! :wow:

[indepat]

74. Ding, dong, the wicked witch is dead

[Cha]

75. Dark Day for a fucking republicON

congress, representive peter king/blowhard.

[Hubert Flottz]

78. It has all the elements of a real KKKonservative political story...

SEX!

Death and destruction of our democracy, theft of elections, don't mean nothin', but GOPer GAWD pays attention to SEX!

[Helga Scow Stern]

85. Don't get too excited. LA Times already in damage control mode...

Foley on page A20.

Front page is reason why GOP will win election after all. It's the hidden minions (who, miraculously, never voted before) in the churches that will explain the amazing victories in 2006 and 2008.

Front page is also Schwarzennegger's sudden surge ahead in the polls.

[glitch]

88. They aren't going to go down without a fight, granted.

I am just thrilled that they are finally getting fought. It's going to be a lot harder for them to get anybody to believe their polls and their vote totals this time...
and for those exposing themselves as the collaborators they are, like the LAT, well that just bonus enlightenment for our side.

[malaise]

91. Way too late

This scandal is going to spread like a virus. Blackmail anyone?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2275680

[cwydro]

94. well, damn it all

I drive down to the local quickmart to get my NYTimes and pick it up and come home. Then I look at the front page and guess what? It is not on the front page out here in the hinterlands...(Florida). But there is something on the iside, guess I'll have to settle for that....and go online for the other stuff.

[wiley]

97. Pitiful Republican collaborators covering THEIR asses

but it's okay if one or more of their members are after the butts of the pretty and young pages on the hill. This will all be explained away by the MSM - then ignored. If this was consensual sex between two adults of the same sex they would be screaming to amend the constitution (as they are!).

What is this crap. Give every Puke in a tight race the opportunity to feign unawareness and pretend they are outraged?

[Ellen Rose]

99. Tight congressional races

I wish Shimkus would have a tight race, but he won't. Here in his district in Southern Illinois, the Democrats have passed on this race. I had to go online to even find the name of our candidate. I saw it on the ballot back in the Spring and not one word in the media, not one yard sign so far. A little work and a lot of money would help a lot. Shimkus can and does do as he pleases-he hasn't had a "real race" since our district was carved up like a Thanksgiving Turkey. Shimkus and his party were the only ones giving any "thanks".

[wiley]

100. Who is he running against? Got a web address?

[gulfcoastliberal]

98. This crap has been going on since the GHWB WH - remember Lawrence E King?!

Nothing new here. Been going on for decades... just now they use computers to molest young males... Believe the Washington Times wrote about it back in '89 and then it got hushed up after several key people mysteriously died... and the Omaha Nebraska elite closed ranks...

[wiley]

104. Stover Challenges Shimkus in IL-19.

Stover Challenges Shimkus: No Congressional Pay Raise Until Congress Takes Care of Working Families

Danny Stover, candidate for the United States Congress in Illinois' 19th District, is calling upon his opponent, incumbent John Shimkus, to reject a Congressional pay raise until such time that Congress mandates a raise in the federal minimum wage.

"As a constituent of Rep. Shimkus, I would like to see him do the honorable thing and vote to give American workers a raise before giving himself and his colleagues one," says Stover.

The minimum wage has not been raised since 1997, the second-longest period of time the wage has gone without being adjusted for inflation. In that time 530,000 more American families have dropped below the poverty line, according to the US Census Bureau. In those nearly ten years, however, Congress has seen fit to raise it's own annual salary by more than $30,000.

John Shimkus, however, has allowed his own salary to increase based upon rising cost of living, while steadfastly refusing to help American families living on a minimum wage that has dropped 17% of its value in the last ten years alone.

"His position illustrates neglect and abandonment of working Americans," says Stover.

The Congressional pay raises occur automatically with the approval of a certain appropriations bill each year. This automatic increase, signed into law in 1989 with the Ethics Reform Act, adjusts the salaries of Members of Congress based upon the rising cost. Congress can, however, vote down the pay increase, as it has done five times since the law was passed.

The questions that Mr. Stover is asking are simple - Are Members of Congress the only ones suffering from rising costs of living? Are they the only ones having to pay $40 at the pump to fill their cars to get to work? Are they the only ones suffering from the rising cost of health care in this country? Are they the only ones trying to send their kids to college?

The answer is, of course, no. If the cost of living has risen enough for Members of Congress to raise their own salary by $30,000, then it's gone up enough to warrant a raise in the abysmally low minimum wage.

"Nation wide, profits are up and incomes of average americans are down," Mr. Stover points out. "People are deeper in debt, the employment rate has fallen while poverty is on the rise. Health care costs and gasoline prices erode our income".

About 48% of minimum wage earners are between the bread-winning ages of 25 and 64, contrary to the rants of opponents about teenagers in entry level jobs. They're office assistants. They're child-care teachers. They're landscaping workers. Even a good majority of those teenagers working minimum wage jobs live in households making below-average income.

It's time to treat the plight of America's working families with the same respect that Congress gives itself. Don't raise Congressional salaries until the minimum wage has been raised.