Walsh's Most Wanted made no mention of Foley

[Erika]

The right wing sites of Jerry Falwell, Tony Perkins, James Dobson, Laura Ingraham, GOPUSA, AFA, Rush Limbaugh are all silent about Foley's sexually verbal assault on a teenager. Surprise, surprise.

None of them will even respond to my requests.

[shain from kane]

1. Was Foley on the plane with Limpballs?

[MADem]

2. That show is blocked well ahead of time--were there live shots at all

this week?

I don't think Walsh will let this slide. His kid was killed by a pervert. Now, not all perverts are killers, but they fuck kids up with their abuse nonetheless.

[Erika]

3. We'll see if Walsh does let this slide

Many rumors.

[MADem]

5. i'd be flat out SHOCKED if he did. He is overly possessed with

hubris, but he does have a certain authenticity about him when he talks about kids who are abused, especially sexually. I can't see him letting this slide, especially if "the full weight of the law" does indeed fall on the former Rep. Foley.

[David in Canada]

9. Agreed...

Walsh would be dumb to let this slide.

The Foley story is headline news so going on TV to denounce the scumbag he will do.

I don't know about Walsh's politics but the dude hates pedophiles. He is obsessed with avenging his son's rape and murder.

His integrity is on the line and this crap is personal for him so I expect a very angry denounciation of Foley from him very soon in the future.

[VeggieTart]

11. All we know about Adam Walsh is he was murdered

They never found anything but his head, so they really couldn't do much besides ID the head as the child's. Without a body, there is no way to know if the child was molested.

[MADem]

12. They are pretty sure they know who did it, and the guy taunted

Walsh about what he did to the kid from behind bars. He always promised to tell him where the body was, but never did....

[madmusic]

17. Karr did it too.

Well, we were sure for a while, or Nancy Grace was.

The point being that taunting and actually committing a crime are not one and the same. True, you didn't say they were, but the fact is, no one knows what happened.

Honestly, though, I wish they would catch the person so he would quit blaming everyone for it.

[MADem]

19. He doesn't blame everyone. That guy gave him some precise info

that led him to believe he did it. He's dead now, anyway.

I don't blame the man for wanting closure. It's his kid.

I don't know who actually thought that kook Karr actually did it. The reports I saw looked askance at the whole exercise from the git-go. The media just covered it because they WANTED it to be true, but any analysts looking at it were saying "bullshit" early on.

[madmusic]

21. Of course for wants closure.

And justice. I didn't mean to imply he didn't if that was the impression. No one can blame him for that.

How long after the guy gave him the info did he die? Was there enough time to charge and/or convict him?

[MADem]

22. The guy was in jail for other crimes of perversion

His name was Otis Toole, a creepy fuck with bad teeth. http://www.amw.com/about_amw/john_walsh.cfm

The prime suspect in Adam's murder, Ottis Toole, was never charged in the case. He died in prison while serving life for other crimes. Toole took the truth about his possible involvement in Adam's murder to his grave -- denying John and Revé an opportunity for closure.

http://www.carpenoctem.tv/killers/toole.html

WALSH: I wrote a book about it after all these years, I was so angry at the Hollywood Police when they opened the files after 15 years to see the bungling, the mistakes that were made.

And I love cops. And 150 of them died in the line of duty last year. But the cops on this case blew this case. And Otis Toole...

KING: You think they could have got to him before he was killed?

WALSH: Otis Toole died a horrible, horrible death in prison. I believe he's the guy, he's a pedophile, serial killer...

KING: It was never proven him?

WALSH: No. There was enough evidence to put him on death row, but they bungled the case so badly, they lost...

KING: So that is an unsolved case officially.

WALSH: Unsolved, officially...

KING: But you believe that the killer wound up in jail for another killing...

WALSH: He was.

KING: And died in jail?

WALSH: During that time that he was the suspect, main suspect, they lost his car. There was no DNA in those days. The back of the car was soaked with blood, the carpet, where he said he decapitated Adam.

KING: He said that?

WALSH: He said it. He confessed several times. They couldn't remember what lab they sent...

KING: So it's not considered unsolved, then.

WALSH: Well, I think most of the people in the law enforcement community and the Broward County district attorney believed that Otis Toole killed Adam Walsh. He was a pedophile, hunter, tracker that day, and a grandmother years later put him right there in the toy department. A lot of evidence points to him.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/15/lkl.00.html

[madmusic]

24. Like a horror story, only a lot worse.

Found another site since unaware of the details.

http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/lucas.html

[madmusic]

13. Do we know if his son was raped?

Or if it was a sexual crime at all?

Just asking because I never heard that before.

[struggle4progress]

4. I know nothing of Walsh's politics but perhaps we could lay off Walsh?

Adam (his son) disappeared in 81, and his severed head was found some weeks later, the body never being recovered. Foley helped write the "Adam Walsh Act" this year, so Walsh might have felt close to him. I can't begin to imagine Walsh's emotional state at this moment. If Foley is a POS hypocrite and con artist, it's not Walsh's fault, whatever political views Walsh holds or does not hold.

As for the wingnut mofos Falwell &c, is there any reason to expect them anything other than vicious partisanship from them? Isn't just a waste of time to contact them?

[Malikshah]

6. IFF Walsh backs the regime---IFF Walsh defends the regime

No quarter. Thousands of children have been lost due to the regime's actions.

So IFF, ...

[struggle4progress]

7. Even if Walsh supports the regime, there's no shortage of more ..

.. important enemies to target.

And however long our fight against these rightwing totalitarian wannabees continues and whatever forms it takes, the fight like all fights is very largely a political matter of producing winning alliances.

Going after Walsh on this particular point is simply mean-spirited and inhumane.

[Malikshah]

14. I for one don't think of Walsh either way. IFF he backs the regime

then he's lost his honor and should be held accountable.

Not to be targeted, but to be pitied for soiling his reputation as one who has fought for the rights and protections of children.

[ShortnFiery]

27. Walsh, like Polly Klaus's dad have become Mentally Ill with

thoughts of retribution. It's sick how the M$M allow both Walsh and Mark Klaus to relive the horrid scenes because their diatribes that follow is ORGASMIC to these men.

They have become DEMENTED into seeking revenge for the loss of their beloved children. Unlike normal people who grieve but eventually come to terms with their child's loss, Walsh and Klaus FEED off of the sexual crimes and vent each night.

It's like WE the Public play a part in enforcing their mental illness. It's really a sick thing to watch ... especially when Klaus gets on a tear. :scared: :puke:

[David in Canada]

10. Definately

It would be very unwise to attack Walsh. When I lived in Florida, Walsh had a lot of moral authority and was respected. In 2004, Ric Bradshaw was elected Sheriff due to Walsh's support, although Walsh's clout MIGHT only apply to law-enforcement focused offices.

Attacking Walsh will be very bad for the Democrats in South Florida.

[madmusic]

15. The more power someone has...

The more we should question. That's just a matter of course. That does not mean we should attack him personally at all, and that does not mean we cannot have empathy for what happened to his son. That is tragic beyond words. We can all understand the pain he must endure.

But he is backing laws across the nation that will endure for generations, and is evidently wielding power in law enforcement throughout the country. No one should have that much power without question or oversight, even if for the best of causes.

You are suggesting giving someone with the power of a congressperson a complete pass. Is that fair to the people?

Iraq was a good cause as well.

[David in Canada]

25. No...

No one should get a free pass for their actions.

However, Walsh basically sticks to anti-pedophilia and victims rights legislation in addition to tougher laws for violent criminals.

He has a lot of influence in the crafting of these laws due to his personal losses and the platform as a victims rights advocate.

If Mr. Walsh knew about Foley messing around with minors, he should be called out on it. However, due to his own axe to grind, I find it highly unlikely. Not impossible mind you (nothing is!) but extremely unlikely nonetheless.

Walsh is responsible for taking into account information given to him and if illegal, reporting it. However, Foley, like many pedophiles and he being a very charismatic person, I can personally attest from meeting him at town hall meetings that he can really work a crowd.

We're lucky some hard evidence (no pun intended!) came out. Otherwise, I think Foley would have charmed his way out of it.

Just my observations and experience, FWIW...

[madmusic]

26. I must be tired.

And am not suggesting Walsh knew anything about Foley before it broke, very doubtful.

I'm talking about the laws he gets passed. Any laws anyone gets passed. Just because the cause is good, that doesn't mean the laws are good.

[struggle4progress]

16. Perhaps you are right.

[David in Canada]

8. Benefit of the doubt...

The "tame" albeit creepy e-mails were released Thursday evening and the sh*t hit the fan the next day.

If it doesn't show up next week or at the very least, the week after that, it's a whitewashing.

I wouldn't jump on the gun just yet.

[madmusic]

20. Are we talking about his TV show?

Why would he say anything on there? Foley isn't wanted and everyone knows where he is.

Maybe a written statement or in an interview or something, but I don't see any need to say anything on his show.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. With All Due Respect, Why Would They Have?

Did America's Most Wanted turn into a news show since last I saw it?

As far as the others go, it's kind of encouraging to hear they have no mention of this on their sites. Means that they know they're FUCKED! LOL

[MADem]

23. I'm with you--they don't break news, they profile criminals who have been

charged with violent crimes. If Foley gets charged, Walsh will mention it.

He actually mentioned the connection of DeLay and Ambramoff to the casino ship sale in the SunCruz killing when he profiled that murder (and he showed it several times).