FIVE PAGES have come forward about Foley! "We Knew About Him For Years!"

[mhatrw]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/nation/epaper/2006/10/01/m1a_FOLEY_1001.html

His sudden resignation as a Congressman, a position he loved, came only hours after he was confronted with e-mails and AOL instant messages he had exchanged with a pair of teenage boys. ABC News since has reported that as many as five boys — all congressional pages — have come forward.

http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/florida_news/article/0,2820,TCP_24432_5034317,00.html

Former page: We knew about Foley 'for years'

WASHINGTON — Sexually explicit messages from former Rep. Mark Foley to one former congressional page might be just the tip of the iceberg, the leader of an alumni association for former congressional pages told Scripps Howard News Service on Saturday.

While Foley resigned this week after published reports of "friendly" e-mails to one 16-year-old male page and the pending broadcast of more sexually explicit instant messages, similar graphic messages from him were received by at least three other teenage boys who once worked in the page program, said Matthew Loraditch, a Maryland college senior who runs the U.S. House Page Alumni Association's Internet message board. "I've known about them (messages) for several years now," he said Saturday.

...

"It was definitely crossing-the-line stuff. The instant message stuff, and stuff I've seen and heard about, definitely couldn't be misconstrued" as merely "friendly" or innocent, Loraditch said.

After Loraditch returned to Maryland and began attending college at Towson University, several male former pages told him they had received Internet messages that were similar to the graphic messages first reported by ABC News last week.

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[Swamp Rat]

1. I wonder how many more pedophiles are in the GOP ranks?

Maybe most of them... :puke:



Perhaps we should demand DNA tests and fingerprints of ALL members of congress.

[intheflow]

6. Grand Old Perverts, you mean.

Or maybe Grand Old Party of Torture, Murder, and Perversion. Whatever. Yours is a good graphic, very eye-catching. And no graphic in the world could be big enough to capture the many varied perversions of the GOP.

[Swamp Rat]

8. Yeah, I did one with the word "perverts" but I like the original version

better because they are having a 'party' at our expense. Torture and sexual perversion is nothing but a big fraternity party to the Ghoulish Old Perverts.

[intheflow]

10. Ghoulish Old Perverts!

:rofl: / :cry:

Now that's a fine graphic, Swampy. Absolutely one of your finest, imo. That "Ha Ha I won" is chilling.

[populistdriven]

19. so what would a Gathering Of Pedophiles in Swampy's swamp look like?

[Joanne98]

69. Greedy Old Perverts

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. According to Foley

anyone who violates children should loss their civil liberties.

I think he should live by his own words.

Foley and Joe Walsh are big proponents of a National DNA database. I think the Repug side of the aisle would be a good place to start.

[SeaBob]

31. GOP

I saw here on DU something that will answer you Q. GOP = Group of Pedophiles :evilgrin:

[No Exit]

39. Stop it! Stop it!

You're endangering the precious republican majority! Without the republican majority, how do you expect Americans to have a bulwark against the gay destruction of marriage, the abortion of white children, the disintegration of the American family, the death of the west, interracial gay abortions, and the other ills which are killing us from within?? sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Imagevision]

67. According to MSM, -> they refuse to report on "5 pages" story

[Joe Bacon]

44. Gee, I wonder why the "Presidential Prayer Team" is so silent on this?

Not a peep.

And they scrubbed all the Foley references off their page.

Not a peep from Dobson, Dr. Laura, Robertson, Falwell, The Crouches, Benny Hinn or any of those Nazi Bible Thumpers. Not a peep. I wonder why?

[Cha]

49. THe greedy ol' hypocrites don't want

to remind anyone of the religiously insane that they have Perverts leading them into the abyss?

[Imagevision]

84. White House in think-tank mode over Foley position/response

[Drops_not_Dope]

51. Remember this one?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2208407
Doyle, from Homeland Security?

[JPZenger]

75. Loyalty to their Party Comes Before Loyalty to their Country

I heard an interview with Bob Woodward today on C-SPAN about Watergate. (I'll temporarily forgive him for having been a Cheney-Bush Inc. shill in recent years).

Woodward said that the main thing that struck him after listening to thousands of Nixon's tapes is that: There was never any discussion about what was good for the country or what was the right thing to do. Instead, all of the discussions were about what was politically beneficial to the Nixon Administration, and how they could screw over their enemies.

That is very similiar to what is happening today. The GOP House leadership didn't ask what was the right thing to do to protect 16 year pages. Instead, there has been a long history over the past 5 years of covering up the truth in order to avoid embarrasments to the Republican Party.

Every one in power needs to realize that they swore an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution - not to protect and defend the Republican grip on power. Loyalty to country must come before loyalty to their party.

[lies and propaganda]

85. hey SR! did you see the thread discussing RAMBLA?

Republican American Man Boy Love Association? There were instant calls for Swamp Rats amazing graphic skills.

You provide me with lots of smiles, obviously a lot of other DUers as well! :Rockstar emoticon:

[keopeli]

2. The story is the cover up. Report due in 10 days. This is exploding!

And it's about time, too.

Thanks, Pelosi, for your leadership.

http://www.democraticleader.house.gov/

And, to creep you out, check-out Foley interview about pedophiles.

crooks and liars

Friends, this could be the end of the Republican Congress completely.

It also seems possible that ABC knew about this for a while. They sure found evidence from 5 pages quickly.

I've learned not to get my hopes up. But, there is reason to promote this failure of leadership.

Peace

[mhatrw]

5. The biggest story is the cover up. But having a 54-year-old serial sexual

predator who regularly targets underaged boys who apprentice at his place of employment while serving as his party's head of "child protection" is a huge story in itself.

[Bucky]

28. The "biggest story" is what the networks decide to report. For example...

What's the big story:

(1) Ten years earlier Gore, who took the initiative in Congress funding the internet, bragged about that accomplishment in words that could be almost misconstrued, or for twenty years Bush ran company after company into the ground by gross mismanagement?

(2) The Bush administration was cutting oil deals with the Taliban while they were providing food and shelter to al-Qaeda's leadership in the months following the Cole attack, or Democratic Congressman Something Condit was having an affair with another adult who then got murdered?

(3) Clinton got a hummer, or Livingston got tied up and flayed by a chick in leather?

(4) One Republican congressman was trying to seduce teenagers, or the Speaker of the House and the entire Republican Congressional leadership was covering up this Congressman as he tried to seduce boys who live under the legal care and guardianship of Congress?

[NewJeffCT]

33. I missed your #3

Livingston getting flayed? I think I'll have to search on that one... The same woman as Bill Bennett?

[Imagevision]

43. K&R!!!

[intheflow]

7. I don't think Pelosi's going to get her report.

:grr:

...House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi of California proposed to the House that its ethics committee investigate and make a preliminary report in 10 days. She demanded to know who knew of the messages, whether Foley had other contacts with pages and when the Republican leadership was notified of Foley's conduct.

Instead, majority Republicans engineered a vote to allow the ethics panel to decide whether there should even be an investigation.

http://editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003189478&imw=Y

[CarbonDate]

11. Oh, that's even better.

This a bloody shirt to wave until November. "They won't even investigate it!" Democrats would be stupid to pass on this.

[exlrrp]

18. I don't think they can dodge this

I think its building up to too big a deal. Its not like Delay taking money, this is about perversion--a much "sexier" story than Texas political financing, the kind of story the MSM just loves. The MSM buried Ney's resignation for the Repubs but they can't bury this one.

[Mist]

29. But wouldn't there be an investigation independent of whether the

Congressional Ethics Committee investigates? The Ethics Committee can't stop criminal investigations.

[kestrel91316]

55. Yeah, but Gonzalez can. Atty Gen will stop the FBI from

pursuing this.

[Imagevision]

40. Resignations? yes in deed, many questions for hastert and Boner

need to be answered, and they should be answered before the elections so the american people can rethink their voting before election day!!! make sense?

[Cha]

50. It's not the Perversion, it's the damn

COVERUP!

[Imagevision]

58. Why isn't the msm reporting anything, oh, its that bad...

[Justice Is Comin]

3. That's what I was waiting for.

Hastert was part one. Now the finishing part 2.

And....

[Imagevision]

42. K&R!!!

[LunaSea]

4. and we called them the "do nothing" republican congress...

more like the "Eyes Wide Shut republican congress".
Betcha Hastert has a funny mask and cloak in his closet.

[Disturbed]

9. I wonder if Foley did more than email and IM boys?

This may be the real situation that is being covered up.

[RandiFan1290]

14. His computers should have been confiscated

They have given him over a year to cover his tracks. Those disgusting IMs are 3 years old now. Maybe that is why Hastert was so worried about William Jefferson's offices being raided? They were still in the process of scrubbing Foley's dirt.

[Divernan]

23. And also all his towels.

nt

[RandiFan1290]

30. That's the spirit!!

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[Moochy]

59. Where is Ken Starr when you need him?

Where is Ken "Sperm Finder" Starr when you need him? :rofl:

[Blue Diadem]

24. That ticks me off too..they gave him so much time to get rid of evidence.

Why weren't his computers confiscated a year ago? I can't help but wonder what else he's done..I doubt it's limited to emails and im's.

[NewJeffCT]

21. That was my thought as well

The IMs I saw on DU yesterday made it sound like something he did regularly - he was certainly direct. (I was away most of the day, so didn't read too closely)

[Blue Gardener]

26. There has to be more

You know we never hear the whole story at first. My bet there was physical contact that we haven't heard about yet.

[kestrel91316]

56. I think we know in our hearts he did. The trouble is, his

computer has undoubtedly been disposed of, not just scrubbed. And if he picked Repuke victims, they may be so brainwashed into party loyalty that they won't come forward.

[Imagevision]

66. K&R!!!

[Little Star]

72. Wondering the very same thing myself. n/t

[Dem2theMax]

71. Totally off topic.

I saw that pic of chimpy here on the board sometime last week, sans banana. And I mentioned in passing that he SHOULD have a banana in his hand and hoped that someone with the talent to do so, would put the banana in his hand. I don't know if you did it LunaSea, or if you found it elsewhere. But to whoever did it, thank you and BRAVO! I'm :rofl:

[malaise]

13. Sexual banter?

By the time this is all out, I'm sure it will be way more than this.

The coverup will destroy all these so called christian, pompous, arrogant, corrupt fascists and I'm truly 'loving it'.

reword.

[w8liftinglady]

15. you guys realize-we need to address this in our local papers,too...

It can be presented in a non-partisan way,if need be.Why are these people covering for a known pedophile?Why are they more concerned for their own political gain than the welfare of these minors?Is it true that the head of the RNCC and the speaker of the house kept this under wraps(and possibly MUCH MORE) for almost a year...putting more boys at risk...to save the collective political ass of the Republicans up for re-election?If the shoe was on the other foot,the repubs would literally be crucifying our disgraced representative.I know we have more important things to focus on-but THIS may actually sway some right-wingers to jump ship.We need the votes right now.We can argue principle after November.

[NewJeffCT]

22. great idea

List out a few facts and then ask why the Congressional leadership has blocked investigation into this despite knowing about it for at least a year... You can even put in a quote from Republican Chris Shays calling for leaders who knew to step down.

[Imagevision]

73. K&R!!!

[PCIntern]

16. You have to prove to me that Foley DIDN'T

on many occasions, have sex with underage males. I'm going to apply the same standards to which they held Clinton and various other Dems over the years.

[dave420]

48. yay sinking to their level!

that'll do the trick!

[kestrel91316]

57. It's called fighting fire with fire. Perfectly legitimate, IMHO.

[dave420]

86. OK

If you say so. Just don't expect anyone or anything to change for the better.

[C_U_L8R]

17. How many Republican pederasts are there???

In addition to Foley.....
Frist ?
Santorum?
Hastert?
Rove?
Cheney ?
BUSH !!!

[NewJeffCT]

20. Not the same scale

But. don't forget former Waterbury Mayor, Phil Giordano... way underage daughter of a hooker.

[Kber]

25. Another interesting question

any boys victemized in the past 12 months, since the leadership ADMITTED to knowing about Foley?

[Recursion]

27. And that's only one of several alumni associations...

...though I think that one has most of the post-Gingrich-revolution pages; but most of the alumni activity is done by the individual classes (because unlike in a 4-year high shcool you only know people from your own class). I don't think we have heard the last shoe yet.

[Janice325]

32. I have a question.

Is it ABC who first released the instant messages? I wonder if the WH is trying to do some "damage control" on more than one front. The Repukes are distancing themselves from Foley, while lying their asses off and just making things worse for themselves. They're also attempting to help out good old ABC and the network's "credibility" after their "Path to 9/11" fiasco.
Just wondering if anyone else was wondering.
Maybe the Titanic is sinking while the rest of us are watching on dry land.

[Hepburn]

34. Holy Shit! (GAG and RANT!!!)

And I am wondering if the REPUKE leadership knew anything about how many Foley had exploited? The party of "family values?" :puke:

Well, yeah, sure....except for small principles like pedophilia! Damn, I never knew until Foley that pedophilia and protection of adults who prey on children was one of the mainstays of "family values."

The GOP Congressional leadership: What a bunch of sick, fucking, self-centered, self-interested, evil old men. Anyone who would turn a blind eye on someone who is exploiting a child should go straight to hell. Too bad Bush's suspension of habeas corpus and support of torture does not apply to fuckers like Foley and those who tried to sweep what he was doing under the Congressional rug.

[woodsgirl]

45. DC police

harrassed Cynthia McKinny and finally trumped up some charges.
She was absolved by grand jury or jury trial..I don't know
which. Willian Jefferson's effects confiscated. Different kind
of justice for republicans. They get to vote too. It's way
past time for a revolution. Democrats should not back down on
this one like election fraud and 9/11 conspiracy by the govt.

[Hepburn]

46. Hell of a double standard, IMO.

Millions spent on Clinton and Monica -- consensual sex between adults. But the GOP leaders don't appear to give a damn that a US Congressman was sexually explointing and abusing a minor. And they don't give a damn about anything that might rock their sick, corporate loving world. What a bunch of assholes.

Sheesh!

[Generic Other]

35. He's the talk of the town now!

"...he had a knack for grabbing a headline and getting his picture on the evening news."

[vixengrl]

36. Thinking about this is just--

Jawdropping--because these are Congressional pages, and uh, you know, he was in Congress--didn't he have the sense at all that you want to keep your freaky behaviour away from the office, where you *will* get caught? So "as many as five"?

[mcg]

37. The Greedy Old Pedophile Protection Party over principles ring

What hypocrites.

[Imagevision]

38. Excellant! now pushing forward to Hastert & Boner resignations

as many as five boys — all congressional pages — have come forward?!!! -> this leads to that Hastert and Boner new and provided the coverup for a predator which mustn't be tolerated regardless of which party you swing with.

Former page: We knew about Foley 'for years'...!

[chervilant]

41. The Time is NOW

Sometimes our bravery coalesces, our voices rise in harmony...And we achieve tremendous social growth.

Righteous indignation, disgust, and anger can fuel activism which nets results. Please, write letters to your representatives, to the media, to ANYONE you feel can effect a change. Please, participate in protests, even if you are likely to be arrested. Use your energy for social and spiritual advocacy and growth--these are more productive responses than finger-pointing and blaming.

In the words of Margaret Mead: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

[AnnieBW]

47. Even if they erase the evidence

Data on hard drives, like chat sessions, can be recovered. Cops do it all the time.

If Foley was sending pervy chat messages to pages, I wonder what other dirt he was into? Kiddie pr0n, perhaps? Makes ya wonder....

This makes the Clenis and Monica look like the bullcrap that it was. :D

[PinkyisBlue]

63. After he voted for impeachment, Foley said this about Clinton in 1998:

"It's vile. It's more sad than anything else--to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain."

If these Repubs. weren't so arrogant and didn't have such inflated, 'holier than thou' opinions of themselves, they wouldn't fall so hard.

[Scooter24]

52. I swear

I just can't pop this popcorn fast enough! :rofl:

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

53. Hmm the shit's sure coming down now, mm hmmm....

[malaise]

54. Yah think

Any kids missing in the district???
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2275680

[Imagevision]

60. MSM isn't reporting on 5 pages coming forward story... must be bad!

Can this story impilcate Boner and hastert implications via cover-up?

[AnotherMother4Peace]

61. But...but...he goes to Church on Sunday

and all is forgiven. He does the same thing the following Sunday, and all his sins for the previous week disappear: he's ready to meet his maker, and he does the same thing the next week and the next week..... That's all it takes for a morally bankrupt hypocrite to remain righteous. I don't know if Foley attends Church, but I do know people who are racists, and generally bad people, and they remain in a state of grace by constantly asking forgiveness. I believe that's why religion is so important to them.

[IWantAChange]

62. Will he be tried for a felony?

My concern is that his resignation versus dismissal will allow him to keep his pension. If convicted of a felony would that supersede the rules of Congress??

[Lucky Luciano]

64. GOP Delenda Est!!!!!!!!! n/t

[Seldona]

65. This is disgusting.

This guy was a predator who used his position to betray the public trust and commit the most heinous of crimes. He should get extra time for the hypocrisy of being a supposed child advocate as well as anyone who was found covering for him.

I simply fail to understand how he thought he could get away with this is today's climate. He made his bed, now him and his supporters can sleep in it. Pun intended. :)

[happydreams]

68. K&R

This is going to snowball.

[livingonearth]

70. I wanna see the pundits try to spin this

My guess is it will avoided and never mentioned. Wouldn't that be great: repuke pundits shutting up.

[Joey Liberal]

74. And where is the outrage from the AFA?

Where is the outrage from the hypocritical "Evangelicals" about this?

[sweetheart]

76. "Republicans deny using condoms"

When asked whether they used condoms when having sex with underaged pages in the congress chambers,
Republicans responded that they had on occasion taken leave of the facilities, but had used condoms
in accordance with HR. resolution 39383 regarding the use of condoms when fucking pages.

However in direct contrevention to the prevention on AIDs strategy adopted by the GOP congress, Hep-C
and HIV positive repubicans have been humping the pages without condoms, teaching the values of bush
conservatism and Her Magesties Gracious Asskissing.

[meowomon]

77. Dennis Hastert Calling For A Criminal Investigation?

Ha! Calling for an investigation into your own criminal behavior is awesome! He covered up the crime that Foley allegedly did, so he will be prosecuted too. Or maybe they'll give him a deal for his testimony against Foley. This is getting deeper and deeper!

[stepnw1f]

78. The Republican Party is Full of Sickos!

Holy shit.... I bet they all pray to an "Owl God" too.

[sce56]

79. Grand Old Pedophiles! Absolutely nothing new here!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2855921&mesg_id=2855921

The theory is they use this to blackmail important people like legislators and other prominent leaders to go their way in voting controlling the military etc etc.


Got Fascism Yet?

[Imagevision]

80. Still no reporting (5 pages) from MSM yet, guess it was too explosive...

[confludemocrat]

81. If a Dem did this, Repubs would be relentless.

But so far, silence from Dems. And don't tell me they are benefitting more from this by their silence, Hastert has been the first to call for a Justice Dept investigation, a preemptive move that leaves the impression that Hastert was other than part of the cover-up.

[nolabels]

82. dupe

n/t

[AspenRose]

83. I bet Felix Allen is relieved

MAYBE this will get his ugly mug off of TV and out of the papers for a while.....MAYBE

Sick, disgusting, amoral freaks.....

[woodsgirl]

87. Franklin Grahm

Billy's son..don't know if I spelled Grahm correctly got 100 million of OUR tax dollars to go to Africa and preach abstinance. Guess that is the repub answer for Aides.Now what's the answer for the epidemic of pedophillia in the republican party, Franklin?

[mhatrw]

88. kick n/t