FOLEY: It's "Revolting & Unforgivable" For People To Say I'm Gay

[kpete]

kpete: You Bet It Is - As DesertRat pointed out to me in an earlier post:

This has nothing to do with his sexuality -
Having a sick desire to be sexual with a minor.
The issue would be the same thing if he sent those disgusting IM's to a girl.


Being gay in the GOP
Congressman Mark Foley: A model of political hypocrisy and personal cowardice


REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN Mark Foley of Florida thinks it’s "revolting and unforgivable" that people are openly speculating that he is gay. Revolting? Unforgivable? Is Foley serious? What’s revolting about being thought gay? What’s unforgivable about asking the question?


more at:
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/editorial/documents/02919063.htm

[driver8]

1. He would rather be called a "pedophile" instead of "gay"??

I guess that makes sense.

[helderheid]

13. My eyes are whirling!

:crazy:

[Nikia]

23. I think that he really damned himself in that

He wasn't attracted to the boy because he was attracted to men. He was attracted to the boy because he was a boy.

[Deja Q]

2. Since republicans call gay men pedophiles,

it is therefore not illogical to say that Foley is gay.

Can't they play by their own rules?

[gully]

27. I think you're on to something. To THEM being gay = preying on children.

Preying on children IS indeed revolting, being gay of course is NOT.

[tularetom]

3. The word "gay" somehow doesn't fit this subhuman piece of shit

It sounds so well, innocent and naive, not dark and cynical like this asshole's heart.

[Nancy Waterman]

6. According to my mother who lives in Florida

There were rumors that Foley was gay years ago when he was going to run for the Senate. He said he didn't want to discuss his personal life at the time and withdrew from the race. Now he is "outaged" that people might think so. It reminds me of Senator Macaca's outrage that people might think he was Jewish.

[Karenina]

8. I call it Roy Cohn syndrome

Anyone who remembers that vile piece of work will make the correct connexion.

[Hepburn]

17. Whooooohooooooo!!

Great post!! :applause:

[JCMach1]

4. Can he dig it any deeper....??

Repugs don't get it...

[WolverineDG]

5. He's not gay

he's a PEDOPHILE! :grr:

dg

[Imagevision]

7. Revolting & Unforgivable" For People To Say I'm Gay? - ok, homosexual then

[cleveramerican]

9. if Hastert knew....

and didn't act, A YEAR AGO, Didn't disclose it to the one Dem on the page oversight committee, and generally covered it up; This is gonna get ugly real fast(as if it could get any uglier)

[symbolman]

10. Here comes the Rove PAYOFF

for being outed and used as a puppet - now he helps the Repigs by making being Gay WORSE than being a Pedophile. I suspected they'd warp this, and the answer is "Gee, rather than being a productive, healthy member of society who has made a sexual choice, you're a SICK son of a Bitch Child Molester, and PROUD OF IT?"

Yeah, he's not Gay, Gay people have DIGNITY, Strength, Compassion, and they aren't SICK, SEXUAL PREDATORS.

They're gonna USE this baby, just you wait - time for the Gays to step up to the plate and Demand that a PERVERT be JAILED for his CRIMES.

Peace and Love to all my gay pals out there, keep your powder dry!

[malaise]

11. CNN just said that his office has been sealed off

The S#it is about to hit the fan!! Tune in.

[donco6]

15. Pictures on his computer?? Hmmm.

And they'll do to him what they did to that Mark Karr fella, right? Of course! :sarcasm:

[Hepburn]

19. Well, thank gawd....finally!

But, it's Sunday, right? Soooooo...the govt actions should have given Foley enough time to change out the hard drive and clean out his office and computers, right? Sheesh!

Ummmm....is anyone else thinking: "Locking the barn door after the horse is gone?" In this case, make is "horse's ass."

[donco6]

12. You can be gay and a pedophile. It does happen.

Just like it happens with straight people. Sheesh.

Is Foley gay? Well, my gaydar goes off at claxon level when I see clips of him. And reading those posts reveals an attraction to the male form - albeit coupled with the perverted desire for underage youth. My verdict is "gay." And so what? If he'd been sending messages to a 22 year old, I wouldn't care (age difference notwithstanding - my first partner was 18 years older than me and we were together 5 years).

[LostinVA]

31. No, you can't really be gay and be a pedophile

Nor can you really be straight and be a pedophile... it doesn't work that way. They IDENTIFY a certain way, but their sexual "orientation" is being a pedophile. Pedophiles can't b rehabbed -- they are sociopaths. Non-pedophilia child molesters CAN be rehabbed.e

[donco6]

32. That's a hair I just can't cut.

I don't see pedophilia as another genus of sexuality.

[nealmhughes]

14. OK, you fantasize about post- adolescent boys, with their ribbed abs

and perky butts...

No, that is not gay at all Mr. Foley. Actually there is an entire genre of gay porn called "Twinks" and exemplified by "Freshmen" magazine for your jerking fantasies...

There are some really cute Czech and Hungarian boys out there on the web and in the print media...but I'm sure you know that already.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30272319@N00/257496904

Why in the world would anyone think that lewd conversation with a teenaged boy home from lacrosse practice would be "gay"?

Your comments, Foley, rather remind me of Dave Chapelle on Whitney Houston: "I never said she smoked crack, I said she was mighty 'cracky looking.'"

[cleveramerican]

18. ROFL

"cracky looking" thats rich!

[huskerlaw]

16. I believe the correct term is "pedophile"

It has nothing to do with whether or not he's gay.

What a creep.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

20. Great editorial! K&R

http://leftandrightfight.com/anything.html

[Armstead]

21. Didn;t George Allen have the same reaction to being asked if he's Jewish?

[Hubert Flottz]

22. 'Arragghrrorwr!’ The GOP call of the wild.....

"They're all just alike!" Have we heard that somewhere before?

SCOOTER’S SEX SHOCKER

Snip...

It took Libby more than twenty years to write “The Apprentice,” which is set in a remote Japanese province in the winter of 1903. The book is brimming with quasi-political intrigue and antique locutions—“The girl who wore the cloak of yellow fur”; “one wore backward a European hat”—that make the phrase a “former Hill staffer,” by comparison, seem straightforward.

Like his predecessors, Libby does not shy from the scatological. The narrative makes generous mention of lice, snot, drunkenness, bad breath, torture, urine, “turds,” armpits, arm hair, neck hair, pubic hair, pus, boils, and blood (regular and menstrual). One passage goes, “At length he walked around to the deer’s head and, reaching into his pants, struggled for a moment and then pulled out his penis. He began to piss in the snow just in front of the deer’s nostrils.”

Homoeroticism and incest also figure as themes. The main female character, Yukiko, draws hair on the “mound” of a little girl. The brothers of a dead samurai have sex with his daughter. Many things glisten (mouths, hair, evergreens), quiver (a “pink underlip,” arm muscles, legs), and are sniffed (floorboards, sheets, fingers). The cast includes a dwarf, and an “assistant headman” who comes to restore order after a crime at the inn. (Might this character be autobiographical? And, if so, would that have made Libby the assistant headman or the assistant headman’s assistant?)...MORE

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/051107ta...

What is it with the GOPers, Sex, Children, Animals and Family Values?

[IndyBob]

24. Whether or not Foley was gay

is immaterial. He is a pervert - chasing kids that were under his direction.

If he had sent these messages to a 16 YO female, would we be discussing whether he is a heterosexual? I think not, we would be deriding his perverted attraction to kids.

[Imagevision]

25. All that matters is that Hastert and Boner are exposed for cover-up

We need to expose as much law-breaking and corruption as is possible

[AnnieBW]

26. Okay...

I understand that there is a heavy current of "older man-younger man" relationships in the gay culture, just as there is "older man-younger woman" in straights. (Think Anna Nicole Smith...) Nothing wrong with that - as long as the younger person is of consenting age and consents to the relationship.

I had a similar conversation with a straight acquaintance who constant brags about how many younger women he has sex with. At what age does it become pedophilia? 14? 16? 18? The law says that anyone under 18 is considered to be a minor - therefore, off limits. Especially to people that are twice their age! This is why I don't have a problem with Clenis getting BJs from Monica. She was 20 or 21 at the time and consented to the acts.

[gordianot]

28. Another example of Republican Cognitive Dissonance.

They create their own problems.

[Canuckistanian]

29. OK, fine, Mark, you're a pedophile, not gay at all

Now, let's ask you a few questions about your blatant homophobia.

And why your base is horrified at the thought of your being gay.

[LostinVA]

30. He isn't gay -- he's into sex with minors