The freepers are trying out Foley talking points....

[Joanne98]

Here's one we should be on the lookout for....

To: butternut_squash_bisque
I think the possibility that the democrats knew is something that should be looked into. The public deserves to know if they care about kids or do they care about playing political games. The GOP made a mess here no doubt but the democrats shouldn't get a freebie if they knew.



25 posted on 09/30/2006 8:28:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)


I REALLY DOUBT IF ANY DEMOCRATS KNEW! Because if they had they would have used this to fuck with the GOP a long time ago!

[seabeyond]

1. the BIGGEST issue in this is repug pages warned, dems NOT

warned about a preditor and couldnt protect their pages

[Joanne98]

9. Good point. The parents of the Dem pages should demand an

APOLOGY from Dennis Hassert. He's suppose to protect ALL the pages not just the Republican ones!

[BlooInBloo]

19. Apology? Are you a genius? They should demand arrest for...

... negligently putting a minor in danger (or whatever it's called).

[petronius]

2. Geez, that guy's tag line really sums up the Republican

mindset these days, doesn't it? 'Well, sure, this administration has made an unbroken string of mistakes for five years, but we just need to stay the course...' :eyes:

[treestar]

3. Already picked up two:

1 - there is no actual sexual contact
2 - the boy was 16 and the age for prosecution is below 16.

The idea that the Dems knew - too hilarious! The dems are now responsible for the conduct of Republicans! The party of personal responsibility strikes again!

[Joanne98]

12. I'm surprised they haven't blamed the victim yet.

[Hepburn]

17. Well, yeah,

the next Freeper comment is probably that the 16-year-old boy was sent by the Dems as a plant and he and his parents are really closet Democrats. I would not put it past the "moran" mentality of the Freepers to spin child abuse so as to protect themselves and the perverts in their party.

[fishnfla]

4. Just playing devils advocate

there seems to be some noise from the rumour mills to the effect: "it was a well known backstory/not so well kept secret" of several years supposedly

there is a post on DU today, someone had to bite their tongue confronting the guy on TV

people have been questioning this guys sexual proclivities for years

[donco6]

7. You're mixing two different things.

His being a gay man was a well known backstory.

His attempting to seduce 16 year olds is not.

[Justice Is Comin]

5. Hey cripplegeek,

you are late for your lobatomy. You should look into that.

[fasttense]

6. The repugs knew a year ago and let Foley use the pages as his

personal hunting ground. If the Democratic leadership had known, you can bet your bottom dollar they would have had it all over the news. This is just another reason why you can't have just one party in control of congress. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[Joanne98]

16. And they warned the Thug pages but not the Dem ones. SHAME!

[misternormal]

8. Related Information...

Some of this may apply in this case...

A child is defined as any person under the age of 18. Legislation has attempted to broaden the law to include computer-generated images (virtual images that do not involve real children) and people over 18 who appear to be minors. However, the court overturned both of these provisions. Congress has subsequently made a number of amendments to tighten federal law in these areas. Because of the evolving nature of legal provision with respect to Internet child pornography, the reader is advised to obtain up-to-date legal advice on the current situation.

A different and more stringent standard is applied to images involving children than to images involving adults. Pornography involving a child does not have to involve obscene behavior, but may include sexually explicit conduct that is lascivious or suggestive. For example, in United States v. Knox (1993)<8>a man was convicted for possessing videos in which the camera focused on the clothed genital region of young girls.<9>

Possession of (not just production and trading of) child pornography is an offense. In the case of the Internet, images do not have to be saved for an offense to have occurred—they simply need to have been accessed.

http://www.popcenter.org/Problems/problem-childporn.htm

[TalkingDog]

18. Well, then, I guess she's in big trouble:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0893813303/ref=nosim/theartcyclopedia

http://www.corcoran.org/collection/highlights_main_results.asp?ID=99

http://www.artgallery.sbc.edu/mann.htm

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0893815233/ref=nosim/theartcyclopedia







My favorite Future Famous Dead Artist: KarenParker

[No Exit]

10. In the Time of Trouble, the village turned to its idiots for help...

...with predictable results. Hello, democratic House!

[samsingh]

11. anyone defending foley is defending

pedophiles.

[Double T]

13. The GOP leadership KNEW and did nothing at the very least........

and more likely tried to cover up for Foley. Those that KNEW and covered up or tried to ignore this situation should be removed from office immediately. No Free Pass on this one!! If Dems KNEW, they would have done something/anything to protect the other young pages in congress. Freepers are as sick as their own political leadership, but WE already KNEW that.

[driver8]

14. Here are some talking points, "pedophile", "chicken hawk", "piece of shit"

Those talking points seem to fit.

[Joanne98]

15. Don't forget liar and hypocrite.

[lonestarnot]

20. and war profiteers, warmongers and perverts.

[sarahlee]

21. Here's a "Talking Point" for them...

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