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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:58 PM
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Has Foley had actual "physical" contact with any of the boys?
I know nothing about sexual perverts, so I don't know whether the emails are enough to satisfy this man, or does this usually mean that he intends to follow up with physical contact?

I haven't seen this question asked yet, so I am curious just how far we might anticipate discovery will take this.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:59 PM
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1. That's why we need an investigation
An investigation will find that out. Just the charges alone are serious enough to warrant an investigation.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:06 PM
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6. Exactly! n/t
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:00 PM
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2. I suspect as the layers of his actions get discovered
there are going to be more stories like this and some victims in the mix.....
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:10 PM
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7. Yep some say he had contact with other Pages
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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:02 PM
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3. He apparently hit on a number of pages
But beyond flirty contact in public, nothing has yet come out.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:46 PM
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14. Should be interesting when ALL the pages are done being interviewed.
My guess this is the tip of the iceberg. Many other congressman might have a similar problem.

Personally, I could care less what label is attached to the name: "R" or "D" all should be horse whipped and resign in that order.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:03 PM
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4. Don't know
But I do know that attempted murder is considered just about as serious of a crime as murder.

Don
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:03 PM
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5. There hasn't been any report but with our useless excuse for
journalism in the corporate media you may not ever hear of it on TV. I'm starting to think some of these other repuke congressmen had a little pedophile ring going on because too many are coming out to defend a pedophile. They'll probably pass a law saying Federal legislative and executive branch members are immune from prosecution for having sex with minors.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:16 PM
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11. No kidding. That's next up.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:11 PM
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8. Some people are saying there might have been.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:13 PM
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9. Of course he did.. I bet he also got a new computer recently
I think the whole email to the kid in Louisiana was just a way to "test the waters", since the kid was back home..

He probably "reached out" to see if the kid might have spilled the beans to his parents.. he did..

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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:15 PM
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10. Based on what I have seen in my work with such people
is that someone is not this agressive with grooming unless they have had success but not recently. He may have had better luck as a younger man and may have more difficulty now that he appears old to his targets, making him more reckless. However, sucess also makes a pedophile reckless, feeling like they know what they are doing. He apparently had a reputation among pages serving the leaders of the US government. THAT is reckless.

It was clearly pathological grooming. He was almost certainly offended upon as a teen.

He learned the grooming techniques somewhere.

He will likely kill himself in my opinion. It will likely come either upon the announcement of a criminal investigation or upon bail after arrest.

The emails are always grooming. Contact is the intent of all of them, even if they know they don't have the courage to actually go through with it. They have a pathological need to offend, just as you or me has a pathological need to have legal sex with a consenting partner.

Finding a victim in such a public case is always difficult. They have usually been paid off or blackmailed, and have no incentive to come forward and destroy their life, their privacy and talk about how they were victimized. For what? To destroy someone the victim may still have confused opinions of?

They may find someone, but it is far from certain. However, if there are records of an offense against a child in the files regarding the complaint and nothing was done, there should be hell to pay by Hastert, Reynolds et al.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:48 PM
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12. So I'm understanding it wouldn't be anything like a peeping tom syndrome,
where just observing or talking about the act is the desired end result. So basically we are at this point looking for a full bore sexual predator of children. Not just someone who masturbates to naughty emails. ?
BTW, thanks for your informative post. I think most of us are pretty ignorant on this subject matter.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:51 PM
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15. Thank you for referring to him as the pedophile he is.
My husband is also a mental health professional, and he refers to Foley as such as well.

I've been getting grief around here for calling Foley a pedophile.

I just read your post to my husband and he agrees completely with your assessment.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:51 PM
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13. Asl Foley, physical" contact with any of the boys?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:52 PM
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16. Just give uz the script
We do the production, don't bug us about that stuff.
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