Christian Wire Service: Filibuster Would Be Immoral

[sabra]

http://www.earnedmedia.org/ncc0124.htm

Filibuster Would Be Immoral


WASHINGTON, Jan. 24 /Christian Wire Service/ -- President of the National Clergy Council Rev. Rob Schenck made this statement today outside the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing room where members voted 10-8 to report Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito, Jr., to the full US Senate for a vote on confirmation:

"If any senators are contemplating abusing the filibuster to deny the President a vote on his nominee they must know that the American people will not stand for it.

"Abusing the filibuster rule is immoral because it requires lying about what is being done. A filibuster in this case would mean denying the American people a vote through their senators. Opponents of the President and his nominee should say so honestly by simply voting No. Anything else is disingenuous and therefore immoral."

Joining Rev. Schenck in condemning the possibility of a filibuster was Rev. Pat Mahoney of the Christian Defense Coalition who said, "Denying this nominee a vote is a slap in the face of all Americans. President Bush was elected after campaigning on a promise to appoint strict constructionist judges. The American people want a vote on this nominee."

[mattclearing]

1. Blah blah blah...not blocking this nomination would be immoral.

It is the minority's right to filibuster until it isn't. This guy needs to STFU.

[Critters2]

2. What the hell

is the National Clergy Council? I'm clergy!! How come I never heard of this until last week! I'm gonna find their website and see how I can join!!

[Chiyo-chichi]

5. National Clergy Council

http://www.nationalclergycouncil.org/

The NCC concerns itself with several core issues:

The Sanctity of Human Life (conception until natural death)
The Sanctity of Human Sexuality (to be expressed only within marriage between a man and a woman)
The Sanctity of Marriage (as between one man and one woman in lifelong monogamy)
The Sanctity of Family (expressed in its most natural and healthy way as the traditional configuration of mother, father and children, followed by extended family)
Ending Violence directed at the innocent, everywhere and in all of its forms
Religious Liberty issues

You sure you want to give them the 150 bucks?

[Critters2]

9. Good point

Even if I thought I could somehow subvert them, giving them money would be immoral.

[acmejack]

The outfit that paid these CNS to send out their "News" release!

Check out their rates.

[RobertSeattle]

3. Wait till the Pendulum Swings back and (D)'s run the Senate

Then Christian Wire Service will say: Not Filibustering Would Be Immoral :eyes:

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. No doubt about that

[RobertSeattle]

17. And that's what is so short sighted about killing the fillibuster

Once the D's get 51 Senators or 50 + the (D) VP the D's will be able to ramrod things through the Senate. And I don't think that is necessarily a good thing either. Some things are too important and really need 60 votes to pass muster.

[baby_mouse]

26. Where IS this Pendulum again?

I understand that metaphor but worry that too much emphasis is placed on it.

:dilemma:

[RobertSeattle]

34. Seems like it is swinging right

Unless it goes out of control it should swing back. Seems to be part of human nature. Whatever is popular ends up being unpopular. My pregnant wife and I are looking at baby names it is amazing to see the swings in popularity of baby names over the bast century.

[Canuckistanian]

4. Bullshit. Filibustering is proper and necessary.

And it's often the last resort to try to avoid mistakes perpetrated by an overzealous Senate.

[Trillo]

6. Another fallen wall of separation.

Church/State separation.

[C_U_L8R]

7. I'll tell you what's immoral...

slimedog charlatans like the so-called "reverend" parading about
as if annointed by god and telling people what to do and think.
What a bunch of hucksters and crooks !!!
People just need to call this BULLSHIT out every time it oozes up.

[htuttle]

8. I don't recall Leviticus saying anything about filibusters..

...but it does mention that you shouldn't eat Shrimp! And you're all GOING TO HELL FOR EATING THEM!

All you folks wearing two types of fiber in your clothes, too! All of you are GOING TO HELL too!

God's making a list...shrimp eaters, mixed fiber wearers, the whole damned lot of you! GOING TO HELL!

Oh yeah, almost forgot: GOD WANTS A CAPITAL GAINS TAX CUT TOO!

[Critters2]

12. That's why I gave up cheeseburgers

That, and the cholesterol issue

[wicket]

14. LOL!

:D

[Coexist]

10. Oh jeepers, here we go: upordownvote upordownvote-upordownvote

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[Horse with no Name]

16. Just like the one they let Harriett Myers have?

Just sayin...

[wicket]

11. This christian STRONGLY disagrees

:grr:

[cascadiance]

15. Religious groups influencing politics IS immoral!

And our constitution says so too... That's why we have separation of church and state! And that's why this group should be stripped of their tax free status if they insist on using abusing their tax exempt status to promote political agendas!

[smartvoter]

18. Whatever. F*** em. nt

[Burried News]

19. If you don't like the filibuster vote in the 2/3rds necessary to

override it.

Where were these guys when Dixiecrats filibustered civil rights legislation at the drop of a hat?

[Armstead]

20. I guess they've forgotten harriet meiers already

The right-wrong Fundamentalists weren't so concerned about that when they didn;t like the nominee.

Glass houses and all that...

[longship]

21. Are these the same people who think that Chimp is appointed by G*d?

nt

[AtomicKitten]

22. What's immoral is tax exempt status of the moralizing finger-waggers.

If half the "religious" figures that spew toxic politics had their tax exempt status pulled, they're would be a lot less fractious discourse out there. It's bad enough that editorial boards are weighing in on moral issues particularly when their agenda is corporate-driven.

[EFerrari]

30. You are so right. I wish we had a rapid response team to

immediately file a complaint with the IRS AND notify these fakirs that we are doing that.

Man, you'd think the DNC would have something like that set up already? Maybe they do?

It's just crazy-making and wrong.

[BR_Parkway]

23. Judges 55:34-35

55:34 Thou Shalt provide an upordownvote

55:35 Let no man ask lenghty questions of my annointed candidates, yea, let none hinder the culture of corruption that thy Lord hath established.

[sabra]

24. LOL - good one.

[wicket]

29. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

:rofl:

[baby_mouse]

25. Christian Wire Service IS Immoral

How DARE they attempt to interfere with public opinion on affairs of Statute!

:grr:

[SillyGoose]

27. Hypocrits!!! Where were they when republicans filibustered

Clinton's nominees? I guess the filibuster is only "immoral" when democrats do it. I am so tired of this hypocritical bullshit.

:grr:

Here is a 5/05 Raw Story list detailing republican senators who had ever filibustered or blocked a nominee.


http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/democrats_open_fire_filibuster_509.htm

[KitSileya]

28. Don't anyone have examples of Repub filibusters

of Dem nominees to counter this?

[SillyGoose]

32. See my post above yours. I included a link to a RS list of republican

senators who filibustered or blocked a nominee.

[KitSileya]

38. Thank you.

It's typically repuke to denigrate dems for doing something they've done themselves. The double moral, the hypocricy is galling.

[mcscajun]

37. The best is that the Republicans did it FIRST

According to a Historical Moments Essay on the U.S. Senate website, the Republican Party was the first to initiate a filibuster against a judicial nominee in 1968, forcing Democratic president Lyndon Johnson to withdraw the nomination of Associate Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas to be chief justice.

Now, it's childish to say "They Started It!" Still, It's outright scandalous to complain when the other side does as you did.

[KitSileya]

39. That doesn't surprise me.

They are so hypocritical. Argh!

[wisteria]

31. You know, they are riding this to the hilt. They haven't even been

honest with their supporters. While these foolish people, who don't think for themselves,fall for the guise of overturning Roe vs Wade and instilling Christian values in our laws, they in fact are going to become victimized by our even more powerful US Government.

[mcscajun]

33. Use = abuse? Filibuster = lying?

"President Bush was elected after campaigning on a promise to appoint strict constructionist judges."

So, because he was elected, the Congress should never say no? He should get everything he wants, because it automatically reflects the will of the American people?

WOW. Theocratic dictatorship, welcome to America.

[stepnw1f]

35. Only a Fanatic Would Say Such a Thing!

GOP once again using the Holy Card. Only someone immoral would drag sacredness through the political mud like this.

[bullwinkle428]

36. "If you filibuster, then the terrorists win!"

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[gratuitous]

40. Really? Are we back to up-or-down votes?

What happened to Harriet Myers' up-or-down vote, Mr. Schenck? Hmmmmm?