Crist (rumored to be gay republican) has big lead all over Florida in poll

[Herman Munster]

This guy is rumored to be gay just like Foley, btw. Single, in his 50's and everyone in the republican party has whispered he's gay.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15648866.htm

Republican Charlie Crist has taken a commanding 21-point lead over Democrat Jim Davis in the race to be Florida's next governor, according to a Miami Herald poll.

The survey by Zogby International shows Crist garnering 51 percent of the vote, compared with Davis' 30 percent. About 16 percent of voters are undecided. To catch up, Davis would have to win over all of the fence-sitters and peel away Crist supporters. With the popular Republican Gov. Jeb Bush leaving office and competitive races under way for the Cabinet and the Legislature, Florida Democrats had hoped to regain a toehold in Tallahassee this election. But the gaping margin between Crist and Davis at the top of the ticket threatens to drag down other Democratic candidates on the Nov. 7 ballot.

''If Jim loses by 15 points, our other candidates could really suffer,'' said state Sen. Steve Geller of Hallandale Beach, the Democratic leader in the Senate.
Crist's internal polls have shown such a solid lead that some close advisors say his campaign team has already begun to discuss plans for his administration. He is locking up Republican voters, corralling more than half of the independents and even siphoning a portion of Democrats, the Herald poll shows.

Davis, a Tampa congressman, appears to be reeling from a bruising primary against state Sen. Rod Smith. Among Democratic voters, Davis receives support from only 65 percent. In contrast, Crist, the state attorney general, wins 85 percent of the Republican vote.
''Davis didn't take the time to consolidate his own base,'' said pollster John Zogby. ``Now he still has to get back those people who didn't support him in the primary. . . . It's a terrible strategy.''

[mikelewis]

1. Now do we see why Paul Hackett was asked to step aside?

Brown would have had the same problem after a polarizing primary though I doubt he'd be in this much trouble.

[DeepModem Mom]

12. I don't understand about Hackett and Brown. nt

[uppityperson]

2. I don't give a flying f* hetero/homo. I care about kids.

you don't mess with kids, even 16 yr old kids.

[Herman Munster]

3. well I think we have to pay special attention

if you are gay AND a republican, you have some mental health issues probably dealing with self-hate and repressed sexuality for being in the closet and living a lie. These people are more likely to be fucked up in the head and mess around with children.

[uppityperson]

4. prejudge much?

[pinto]

33. Geez, that broad brush assessment is OTT and bluntly dangerous.

Implying that "these people" require special attention and are "more likely to be fucked up in the head and mess around with children" can easily be read as a bigoted invitation to vigilantism.

Just my two cents.

[MissMarple]

6. I think the word predator applies to them. They prey on the vulnerable.

And they are considered to be in a position of trust.

[uppityperson]

7. Whom do you mean by "they"? Republicans or Gays or??

[MissMarple]

11. Foley, Packwood, Gingrich, and even Mary Kay Letourneau.

Sorry for any ambiguity.

And Crist if the shoe fits. They are opportunistic predators if they engage in activities that take advantage of a weaker and/or young person, someone who is not a consenting adult.

Although, I suppose you could say Republicans in general are predators in that they are preying on the American people, as well as vulnerable countries across the world. I'm sure there are many Republicans who are dismayed at this. But they don't seem to have the will or the ability to stop any of this, the corruption is just too deep, too pervasive, too entangled within their party. IMHO

[uppityperson]

13. Republicans I agree can be designated predators.

Fundatmentalist ones especially, those who believe that their way is not only right but the only way and they need to force this on others. Those who believe that they are better than everyone else, that because they feel they are better that they are and therefore can do anything to anyone they want because, after all, they are better. So what if they lord it over the weaker or younger? They wouldn't be powerful if they didn't deserve to be powerful and they deserve to be powerful because they are.

I am getting really tired of it, this week, after losing habeas corpus, after giving dictatorial powers to the president, and, thanks all.

[DianeG5385]

5. I hope we're bigger than to make this an issue

n/t

[rzemanfl]

9. When the Repukes have eliminated every right you ever had

you will have the comfort of knowing that we were too big to point out that this man is apparently something the Repuke voters love to hate.

[rzemanfl]

8. If the shoe were on the other foot, they'd be push polling this

like mad and you know it. We will have a Republican governor in Florida because the Dems are too damn nice. I give a shit if he's gay, he's a goddamned Republican!

[never_get_over_it]

22. OH now a push poll would be a beautiful thing

I don't give a shit what it takes - I am so sick of the repunks down here both the elected ones and the voters - election fraud in this state - there is friggin racisim down here like I've never experienced in my life - and I think that is just because these stupid ass white people here think that since I'm white too they can say any dumb ass shit thing to me becuase I MUST be one of them - the insurance premimums are through the frigging roof because the repunk state legislature will do nothing to stop these greedy ass insurance companines - property taxes are going up up up - from what I hear Crist is pretty corrupt and as far as I'm concerned Jim Davis got Bob Graham's endorsement before the primary and that is good enough for me....

[rzemanfl]

26. I am willing to swallow my scruples if that will get the

Repukes out of Tallahassee.

[FloridaPat]

10. Seems the Democrats were in disarray the last gov election too.

I've seen tons of Crist ads. Not one Davis ad so far. Crist isn't even saying he's a repub. In fact, a lot of the political ads this year don't mention the party they're with.

[LeftCoast]

14. If you're implying that because he *might* be gay, he's a pedophile

then I must strongly disagree. What *is* your point exactly?

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[LeftCoast]

23. Ah, it's some weakness in gay character that makes them more likely

to be pedophiles than hetero's?

[Guy Fawkes]

24. There were, at the time of the 2000 "election,"

1 million Log Cabin Republicans. Are you saying they were all pedophiles?

[Bluebear]

15. He is not "gay just like Foley".

Foley is apparently a sexual predator.

[bluedog]

16. the GOP also said he fathered a child

*in the priniary this surfaced........they were eating their own then

Politics
Crist confronts paternity claim
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Charlie Crist confronted an 18-year-old claim that he fathered a child with a St. Petersburg woman, calling it "absolutely false" on Sunday as a secret campaign was launched near the end of the Republican primary for governor to leak the paternity dispute to the press.

Documents faxed anonymously to the St. Petersburg Times show that in 1989 Rebecca O'Dell Wharrie said Crist was the father of a baby she wanted to place for adoption. Crist signed an affidavit denying paternity and relinquishing any parental rights.

"Parenthood by myself is not possible as I never consummated the act necessary for parenthood," Crist stated in the affidavit signed in May 1989. In a handwritten note at the bottom, he added "This should make clear the adoptive process. Thanks, Charlie."

The records, from the sealed adoption file of a girl who was born in June of 1989, were leaked to a handful of reporters four days ago. They were e-mailed to reporters across the state Saturday afternoon, and on Sunday Crist addressed the matter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=364&topic_id=2278559&mesg_id=2278559


and he dated Kathrine Harris::::::::


FORMER FLAMES? Back then they were just a couple of 30-somethings - unattached, attractive, snappily dressed and not yet on their way to political stardom. But what a couple: Harris and Charlie Crist.

Sure enough, the Republican front-runner for the Senate nomination and the Republican front-runner for the gubernatorial nomination acknowledged to the Buzz that they once dated.

"He's the nicest guy. I loooove his mom and dad," Harris said of the attorney general from St. Petersburg.

"I thought she was charming and lovely. We had a nice couple of dinners," Crist said by phone, pegging the time frame to more than 10 years ago. "She has remained a dear friend and she is a great public servant."


http://www.sptimes.com/2006/05/21/State/Harris_challenger_s_d.shtml

[PaDem]

17. Huh???? Wasn't this race neck and neck only recently?

What happened?

[Midlodemocrat]

18. Foley is a predator. Davis may or may not be gay. ENORMOUS

difference.

Any adult who preys on a child when they are in a position of power is a predator and a pervert and needs to be locked up.

Hell, I was teaching high school at 21. Those kids were totally 'hands off' because I *was* the teacher. I *was* the adult. It's a line you don't cross.

[rzemanfl]

27. Davis may be gay? Where'd that come from???? n/t

[Midlodemocrat]

28. SORRY!!!! Meant Crist, I was typing and dealing with the kids at the same

time.

[rzemanfl]

29. As long as you are dealing with your kids and not someone

else's kids...

[Midlodemocrat]

31. LOL. Well, frankly, I do that on an almost daily basis

which is why this entire situation bothers me so. I volunteer with special needs kids and I just don't like the dismissive attitude I am seeing about what Foley did.

I am firmly in the camp, after teaching for 10 years, obtaining my PhD in child/adolescent psychology and practicing prior to having my own kids, as well as acting as an 'expert witness' for CASA cases, that any adult who sends suggestive IM's, emails, what have you to a 'child', and by that I mean anyone under the age of 21, regardless of the law has a problem.

Obviously, an individual who is 22 sending suggestive emails to his/her 21 year old boy/girlfriend isn't what I am talking about.

I have long believed that pedophilia is preying on a younger person because the predator is in a position of power and the prey isn't sure how to deal with it.

[tallahasseedem]

20. I talked about this right after the primary was held...

and essentially was called a chicken little by more than a few.

[RB TexLa]

21. if he isn't doing anything with minors, there is no way I could care

what his sexuality is. Sorry, it's not any of my God damn business.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

25. Heaven help this fool

Some freaks are on to him on the Foley thread over there.
~~I knew he was gay, but did not know he was a child predator. I now will have a democrat congressmen.
We better brace ourselves for the other shoe to drop, because Florida is about to elect a gay republican governor too. I fear the democrats will out him before the election.



338 posted on 09/29/2006 1:08:32 PM PDT by kara37

Also~

~~Yes, Florida is about to elect a gay republican. Jim Davis the democrat, is going to take a fall so cc wins. Davis doesn't want to win and that's why he's not trying. It is pre-ordained that cc will win. cc has so much cash that he can pay off all his former companions to keep quiet.



397 posted on 09/29/2006 1:20:17 PM PDT by floriduh voter

[Malikshah]

30. His orientation is irrelevant-- What IS relevant is that he

attempted to shut down the play Corpus Christi at a SFl University (via pressure); he touts Jeb's education system as something to be lauded; his attack ads against Davis pull the liberal card (as an epithet); he congratulates himself for pushing for doubling the Homestead exemption (which will kill home values)

He's a frikkin loser who unfortunately will win because....it's Florida and the banana republic here is controlled by mindless losers (i.e. Clay Shaw voters anyone?) and the like.

[alfredo]

32. It doesn't matter if he's gay. We should make sure as Democrats

we make it clear that we will not discriminate against him for his orientation.