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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:33 PM
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Roll Call: Fat Bastard (Hastert), Top Aides (11 people) knew
and did nothing

http://rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/15263-1.html

Hastert, Top Aides Knew of Foley Allegations

Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and at least three of his aides were told of allegations that then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) had improper e-mail contacts with a former House page months before the incident became public and Foley resigned from Congress, according to a senior House Republican and a report released by Hastert’s office on Saturday.

This contradicts earlier claims from Hastert’s office that the Speaker did not know of Foley’s behavior until it was revealed this week by ABC News.

Hastert and other GOP leaders also continue to insist that they were unaware of much more sexually graphic electronic messages from Foley to unidentified young men. The release of these explicit messages, which occurred after the first ABC story broke, spurred Foley to immediately resign from the House.

As of Saturday evening, nearly a dozen House GOP lawmakers and staffers have acknowledged that they knew of the initial batch of non-sexually explicit messages from Foley to a 16-year-old former House page, some of them for a year or more. These include Hastert; Majority Leader John Boehner (Ohio); National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Reynolds (N.Y.); Reps. Rodney Alexander (La.) and John Shimkus (Ill.); Mike Stokke, the Speaker’s deputy chief of staff; Ted Van Der Meid, Hastert’s counsel; Paula Nowakowski, Boehner’s chief of staff; Jeff Trandahl, the former Clerk of the House; and another Hastert aide and Alexander’s chief of staff, according to public statements and GOP insiders.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:34 PM
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1. obstruction of justice
say it loud and say it often

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:44 PM
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8. That, and/or ACCESSORIES AFTER THE FACT
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:50 PM
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9. I forgot about accessories
very good

thanks
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:55 PM
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12. You can pass on my clever assessment to DOJ. (teeheehee)
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:36 PM
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23. when I talk to Alberto tomorrow, I will
:rofl:
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:36 PM
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2. Did they know for a few months
or for five years (as some other posts suggest)

Either way.. it's obstruction.
And they're already trying to weasel their way out.
Just shine a spotlight on em.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:39 PM
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3. Illinois perverts
Y'all out there in illinois have wisely kept yer heads relatively low,
but what is this? Perverts are allowed to run wild on your soil, will
you let this stand... its an honour thing.

Lord bless the people of illinois.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:41 PM
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5. Doing our best to route them out.
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 07:41 PM by rosesaylavee
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:50 PM
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10. Of course you guys would be
Just its spooky to hear wind that you might have not
been successful as of yet. Hope the wind changes...

di da da dit,
sweetheart
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:02 PM
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15. Spooky is saying it mildly.
Have watched Hastert for several years now side-step political landmines. As this involves children at risk, am hoping that local Republicans will find it distasteful enough to vote for the DEM running against him.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:40 PM
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4. They knew and they need to step
down from their positions. They were aware of illegal activity, activity that threatened young children entrusted to their care and they chose to protect one of their own.

These are very bad bad men and its time for them to be removed from office and face at least this **one** crime if not all the others they are guilty of.

Bastert, Shimkus, Bonehead... all must go.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:42 PM
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6. It wasn't months. It was FIVE YEARS they kept it secret.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:43 PM
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7. these lying son of a bitches need taking down and big time!
what filthy sob's..and they let Foley stay on as co-chair to the Missing and exploited children caucus..

what fuckers!!

Noreen Gosch will be on Washington radio show 5 pm tommorrow night ..WGMD... radio...

listen in!!

fly

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:50 PM
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11. Needs one more vote folks!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:57 PM
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13. This is serious stuff, these people should resign
they are, at the very least, guilty of dereliction of trust and breach of the public trust and unworthy to hold public office on that basis alone, and that is before any possible inquiry into criminal activities.

These people need to go.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:02 PM
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14. ethics violations at best
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:15 PM
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16. The "Bush* Doctrine" should apply here:
You remember...."Those who protect terrorists ARE terrorists"?

The Bush Doctrine should be expanded to:
"Those who protect Pedophiles ARE Pedophiles"
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:17 PM
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17. if foley was committing these lurid acts albeit in emails why wait
for the last day of session? vacation news dump?..

any suggestions?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:21 PM
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18. Speaking as an IT Manager I would think
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 08:25 PM by RamboLiberal
if inappropriate emails are reported the next step would be to look in to the IMs. I would think that in someplace like the Congress if done on PCs linked to the network the IMs would be logged and saved.

I hope this scandal takes down more than Foley!

If I was a Dem going up against any of these clowns who covered it up I'd be spinning up my campaign ad on how they thought Foley's and holding on to Repuke leadership was more important than protecting kids from being sexually abused. That would hit home with every parent in their district.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:45 PM
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20. Precisely, RamboLiberal.
It's bad enough they've been doing every dirty trick in the book to hang onto power, but to recognize and turn a blind eye to what is clearly illegal and morally repugnant, that's just too much for most people to stomach.

I can't figure out who disgusts me more, Foley or the lying liars who covered for him.

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:35 PM
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19. Anyone who thinks they did nothing needs to re-examine the situation
Just sayin, the republics have been in lock step for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if quite a number in congress (Dems also) were compromised (subjected to blackmail).

-Hoot
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:16 PM
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21. For Hastert to say he "didn't know the emails were sexually explicit" is
so obviously a lie. What did he think was in the emails, gardening advice?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:31 PM
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22. I want to know why the IMs weren't investigated
I would bet they would be logged.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:52 PM
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24. Hastert, Action Figure
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:59 PM
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25. The resemblence is striking, don't you think?
I understand Denny was a wrestling coach.
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:10 PM
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26. The Hill: Hastert's staff first knew of Foley emails in 2005
http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/092806/foley2.html

House Speaker Dennis Hastert’s (R-Ill.) staff was first informed of Rep. Mark Foley’s (R-Fla.) unusual email exchange with a 16-year old page in the fall of 2005, according to a time line released by the Speaker’s office Saturday afternoon.

Stephanie Miller's cheerful song, "You're a lying sack of crap" comes to mind
Sing with me now
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:33 PM
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30. Lying, scheming, stinking, nasty, sack of liquid crap
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 11:42 PM by DesertedRose
*blink!* *blink!*

(it's late)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:17 PM
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27. There's going to be a few more safe GOP disxtricts in play soon
At least half a dozen more, it looks like.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:04 PM
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28. such as Hastert's and the rest of the pedophile enablers?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:15 PM
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29. Exactly
There are some things that family values Republicans won't tolerate, and this is one of them.

I know if the shoe were on the other foot, I'd be very upset with the Democratic leadership, to say the least.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:54 PM
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31. I think its rich that hes all over the cable news
admiiting to knowing of emails, but definitely not perverse one, otheriwse he SURELY would have expelled him.

:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:

what a lying scumbag. if whoever the current awesome leaker of these mails hadnt done so, Mark Foley would still be Reppin and taking photo ops at John Walsh Children events. puke.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:06 PM
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32. From Hardball, Monday Oct. 2
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 11:10 PM by rocknation
link
KEITH OLBERMANN: ...Hastert said, “I just don‘t recall (Reynolds) telling me that. If he would have told me that, he would have told me about in that context of a half a dozen or a dozen other things.”

...Never mind what the Democrats say...you‘ve got conservatives who are furious at Hastert, and this is the kind of disaster that does not need one party painting the other...will the Republicans need to throw Hastert under the bus to save their chances in the election?

CRAIG CRAWFORD, CONGRESSIONAL QUARTERLY: Well, if he fits—-if the bus has a lot of clearance...

I myself think it would be easier to throw the bus!

:rofl:
rocknation
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