List of Democrats that voted FOR the torture bill.

[upi402]

Carper (Del.)
Johnson (S.D.)
Landrieu (La.)
Lautenberg (N.J.)
Lieberman (Conn.)
Menendez (N.J)
Pryor (Ark.)
Rockefeller (W. Va.)
Salazar (Co.)
Stabenow (Mich.)
Nelson (Fla.), Nelson (Neb.)

(Are these REALLY Democrats?)

[Greeby]

1. Well, in Lieberman's case no

He's a Connecticut for Lieberman ;)

[last1standing]

16. Shouldn't that be He's a Connecticut for Liebermaniac?

n/t

[Rosco T.]

2. What is the voting breakdown on the Specter (HB) Amendment?

[Eric J in MN]

7. The Specter amendment for habeas corpus lost by 48-51.

The following people are so opposed to liberty that they voted No:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00255

NAYs ---51
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-NE)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stevens (R-AK)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

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Note that three Republicans glorified by David S. Broder of the Washington Post for supposedly standing up to Bush on this bill (John McCain, Lindsay Graham, John Warner), all voted to destroy habeas corpus.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. Yes, They Are.

(well Lieberman? Not so much LOL)

[DancingBear]

5. Really?

Torture is good, now?

Or maybe it can be "overlooked" if it happens to fall on the correct side of the political equation?

Boy, I sure am glad that one of "ours" who voted for torture wasn't a pedophile.

Wouldn't THAT be a dilemma...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. Wait, Did You Say Something?

Sorry, I had my strawman protectors on my ears.

[DancingBear]

17. Aw, isn't that cute?

Can I torture you next?

Mary Landrieu says it's OK, and you think she's swell, don't you?

Don't worry, though, I won't hit you in the head.

Why wake the dead???

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. ****Sound Of White Noise********

Sorry, still got em on. Wow, they work really well!

[DancingBear]

20. You really don't need them

You're perfectly capable of sounding foolish without any help.

From what I can read, you do it quite often.

<fade to black>

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

22. Whoops! Time To Take Them Off And Put My

childish-personal-attacks-because-the-poster-realized-they-had-been-bested-and-could-come-up-with-nothing-else-to-say earphones on!

Ahhhhhhhhhh, that's better.

:rofl:

[ChiciB1]

29. AWW C'Mon... Fade To Blue!

You know, BIG TENT & that UNITY thing... seems to work for others!

[mdmc]

30. Agreed

not my type, but still dems...

[ThomWV]

4. Anyone got a link to a list of the House Democrats who voted for it?

[Eric J in MN]

9. Here is the total House vote on the final bill without indicating party

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll491.xml

[sandnsea]

6. Republicans too boring for you?

Can't find anything about the Foley scandal to get you goin'? NIE makes you yawn? Woodward's book too long and confusing? Just not a blessed thing about Republicans for you to bitch about, huh?

Nah, with all that fodder, you gotta bash 11 Democrats. :eyes:

[undergroundpanther]

8. No they are not democrats anymore

They are fascist ENABLERS. They are traitors. They are cowards. They are scum. They might as well be psychopaths themselves their consciences are so DEADENED.

A democrat would not endorse torture.Definition of Democracy:
Democracy (literally "rule by the people", from the Greek demos, "people," and kratos, "rule") is a form of government for a nation state, or for an organization in which all the citizens have a vote or voice in shaping policy.

A Tortured person is not free to shape his own fate, shape his own security from bodily harm,a DEMOCRAT would NOT endorse torture for torture by it's very existence removes the person-hood of the victim,it destroys their autonomy totally and makes him unable to shape any policy,that he is subjected to by an authoritarian torturer.Torture is NOT democratic it is AUTHORITARIAN(fascist) or a symptom of LAWLESSNESS.

A liberal See Definition:
LIBERAL:
1. A person with liberal ideas or opinions.
2. Liberal A member of a Liberal political party.

liber·al·ly adv.
liber·al·ness n.
Synonyms: liberal, bounteous, bountiful, freehanded, generous, handsome, munificent, openhanded
These adjectives mean willing or marked by a willingness to give unstintingly: a liberal backer of the arts; a bounteous feast; bountiful compliments; a freehanded host; a generous donation; a handsome offer; a munificent gift; fond and openhanded grandparents. See Also Synonyms at broad-minded.
Antonym: stingy

A Liberal Would NEVER EVER Endorse torture.

These senators should remove the D by their names and put an FE there for Fascist enabler! Or if they want the D, make it DS,Dictator Supporter.Or a PE Psychopath enabler.

[ChiciB1]

28. Hope You Feel Better Now... Next Step

VOTE and PRAY it gets counted!! We've been eating crap for a long time now, a little more can't be too distasteful!

I COULD throw in a comment about maybe they are doing this for a specific reason, such as getting elected or getting money to elect someone, but I don't think it's necessary. For now, we need UNITY no matter what!

Halloween is coming and you could dress up like a SHEEP... maybe then it won't feel too bad!

WHATEVER, we need D's! And that's only the beginning of the fight! And no, I'm NOT jumping you, I understand but we lose if we don't STICK THIS ONE OUT!!

[ChiciB1]

10. Answer To YOUR Question!

All the above are up for election! We KNEW Mr. Lie would do this, Menendez and Stabenow seem to be having problems.

Don't understand Rockefeller, and here in FL, Bill Nelson seems "not get it!" He's up on Cruella and didn't NEED to vote this way. When I called his office the other day I was told they would pass the message on to him. I KNEW he was going to do this, one of my main reasons for not really wanting to vote for him! I gave him an Indian Name... "Finger In The Wind!" Don't like him much and it's pretty hard to email him through most of the standard petitions. He wants you to fill our a form, check off a category you would like to bring to his attention, and by the time you get to what you want to say and send it off, you're pissed! Then you get this "cute" little bounce back letter saying Yatty, Yatty, Yatty... thank you for contacting me and Yatty, Yatty, Yatty! Having to go through the extra steps sometimes makes others quit the process so he WON'T hear from many of his constituents. Anyway, that's how I read it!

But I suppose what matters most right now is that we get people in with D's after their name as repulsive as it may seem. With only TWO Parties to pick from, and IF, IF, IF elections are fair, perhaps the more Democratic Party Democrats will get more aggressive and America MIGHT turn a corner.

However, I'm very cynical and don't use the word HOPE anymore! We shall see.... with this corrupt bunch of Liars & Cheats running the show for the past 6 years or so, I NEVER let my guard down! TRUST is another word that has lost all meaning for me.

[readmoreoften]

14. Lautenberg is not up for re-election. /nt

[ChiciB1]

25. You're Correct! So Now I'm Wondering What's Up With NJ???

Correct me if I'm wrong... didn't Lautenberg APPOINT Menendez and don't BOTH of them lean more to the left than some other Democrats??

Did they make a deal because Menendez may lose??? I must add that very little surprises me anymore, but this one does make me wonder. And J. Rockefeller threw me me too!

[readmoreoften]

31. Yes, Lautenberg meant so much to me when I was a little Dem.

He came every year to my grammar school and I really liked him and what he stood for. I grew up and voted for him. Now I'm a little heartbroken.

[Individualist]

11. You didn't include the 34 House Dems who voted for it

[DancingBear]

19. Why do you hate America??

If it was legal, I"d torture you right now.

Oh wait, it IS legal.

How did THAT happen?

Surely no Democrats voted for it.

Did they????

[Individualist]

21. Only(!) 46, but, but....

they had a D after their names, so we gotta be like the repukes: my party right or wrong!

[readmoreoften]

12. I don't understand why lautenberg voted for it.

He's not up for re-election. What gives?

[KittyWampus]

13. List of DU'ers who prefer to trash Democrats rather then Republicans:

you know, the ones who wrote that piece of shit legislation with the express intent of dividing Democrats...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

23. Oh Burn!

:toast:

[ChiciB1]

26. Well I Say If IT Has A "D" Beside IT... Vote For IT!!

I'm going to and stated why previously. My BIG problem is that I live in Florida and I DO HAVE some real fear that my vote won't get counted, even though I'm voting absentee! I wonder if they'll even count them in MY County!! Cruella's Her Name, Cheatin's Her Game!!!

[omega minimo]

24. .

[SPKrazy]

27. No, They Aren't

they are instead traitors

[meldroc]

32. Just sent my nastygram to Salazar.

Not that it will do any good. Quislings like that don't care what we have to say.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

33. Where's the list for the House?

[and-justice-for-all]

34. Do whatever it takes to get them replaced in November!

What a bunch of unethical idiots.