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Glib Acumen Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:48 PM
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Iran will not be attacked, I predict
Iran will not be attacked by the USA, in my opinion. This essay gives the reasons.

Iran is a bigger country than the USA ever attacked before. It is as big the combined areas of Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Colorado. The terrain has hundreds of mountain ranges separated by big valleys. This provides a vast number of places to hide nuclear weapons factories. Even if the USA dropped hydrogen bombs on 200 places, they could not be sure they got all of the underground nuke factories. The radioactive fallout from those attacks would prevent ground troops from invading to check for more factories.

Conventional bombs are too weak to damage all of the underground factories. The USA makes its most effective killings against small, weak countries. Iran is big and undamaged by any sanctions. Iran has very intelligent and educated people. They are not foolish enough to place their nuke factories all in the open and show them all on TV. They are wise enough to hide their nuke production underground.

The USA will not attack Iran because Iran is like other nuclear powers that do not attack with nukes. They can be reasoned with. We all can live in peace, even when arsenals are large. It is in the interest of all sane people to cooperate with strange foreigners instead of killing them. We are in a time of rapid changes that bring enlightenment, transparency, and easy communications around the world. As nukes are proliferated in thirty more countries, a new level of maturity will be achieved by national leaders, and no nuclear wars will be started. Greedy madmen like Bush's mentors will be discredited for seeking to rule the world through murder.

The only reason for the USA to attack Iran is to rule the world. There is no hurry to finally rule the world. The USA can wait decades without attacking, in hopes of someday making Iran into an ally again. There are smaller, weaker targets the USA can demolish first, to make all nations fear the USA. They hope that through fear, small countries will surrender peacefully. After the USA smashes and intimidates all small countries, they can deal with the big countries, like Iran, Russia, and China, using non-violent means.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:49 PM
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1. I predict it will
Are you familiar with PNAC?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:51 PM
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2. 4 grafs = essay? ROFL!!! Boy has America gone downhill....
Re: Your "prediction". It isn't a fully functional prediction unless/until you put a timeframe. Won't be attacked *by when*? Or do you *really* mean the flat-out "never in the future of the planet will Iran be attacked by the US"?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:52 PM
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3. Another reason not to attack...Iran has an army that will swarm
over the Iraq border and with the help of the Iraqi's will slaughter our troops.....but that would mean that this administration cares about the troops (which they dont'), attacking Iran will bring all of the Muslim countries together in a way never seen in history....

How many more blunders can the US take before we start seeing crazy shit happen on our soil.....?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:55 PM
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4. We have a pea-brained madman as president.
Who knows what that crazy bastard will do.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:58 PM
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5. That's the problem.
Logic and reason don't mean a thing when you're dealing with a madman. :scared:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:59 PM
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6. I hope you are right, but fear logic has little to do with it.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:01 PM
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7. You figure on the chimp choosing the most logical option?
:rofl:

I wouldn't bet on it.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:03 PM
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8. What do reason or strategy have to do with it?
All the pointless saber rattling tells me that we very well may bomb Iran at some point within the next year. The PNAC outlined this 6 years ago. This is their PLAN. The takeover of the middle east is their whole reason for existence. They may wait a year or two, but this is there plan. If we don't get them out of office, their word will be deed.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:04 PM
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9. You need to do a little research "republican bomb" i.e. Neutron bomb
will allow them to kill the people and leave the real estate. It's not a perfect solution but it would stop the facility and new recruits would be hard to find. The vastness of Iran is no problem. They only want control of a short strip of land along the gulf. That is where the oil and gas is located. They will make deals with former sheiks/tribal leaders to stay out of the conflict as they did in Afghanistan. They get the oil/gas and the tribal leaders/warlords get power and a new drug trade which will make them millions. Look up pipelineastan and you can see the major power struggle going on. However should Russia or China "buy" Exonmobile and/or BP they will then control most of our foreign and domestic oil reserves. They have the money because they have been running a surplus with us for years now. Watch for a bin move, Russia is already making moves to regain control of it's own resources.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:08 PM
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10. Hi Welcome to DU :)
You’re right, we can’t handle Iran.

I think as long as Bush isn’t doing the fighting himself, he’ll attack any oil rich nation.

He's a monster.
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Glib Acumen Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:35 PM
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11. Further comments
Here are my responses to your valuable comments:

"Are you familiar with PNAC"? Yes. They have goals to rule the world. Those goals can change.

"Your prediction ... isn't a fully functional prediction unless/until you put a time frame." Time frame is 50 years.

"We have a pea-brained madman as president. Who knows what that crazy bastard will do."
Bush knows who his superiors are. (Cheney, etc.) He respects the judgment of his mentors, who in turn are following the results of simulated war game results. I expect that the war game simulations agree with my assessment in the original post.

"Logic and reason don't mean a thing when you're dealing with a madman".
Bush is a stupid pretty boy who believes in the war games simulations. I expect those simulations are not in favor of an attack, even a total nuclear attack. The simulations are logical and reasonable.

"The takeover of the middle east is their whole reason for existence." No, they want to rule the world. They use a tactic called Gradualism. As the decades and centuries pass, the USA smashes small, weak nations, (Cherokees), and gradually takes over the world. The middle east does not need to be taken over this decade. Iraq was the low hanging fruit, so it was smashed. Iran is hanging tough.

"They only want control of a short strip of land along the gulf." Yes, that is possible. The USA may take over the shores of the Persian Gulf, like it took over parts of Mexico.

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:36 PM
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12. Suggested reading, A very recent paper.
The End of Summer Diplomacy (Gardiner)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2258585

Iran Freedom Support Bill (passed in the House last week, passed in the Senate Saturday)

Contains Regime Change language
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2534654
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:40 PM
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13. LOL, nice choice of username. Seems to fit you well.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:47 PM
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14. I predict YOU'RE WRONG!
Look for an Oct. 21st SURPRISE !! God help us all!!:nuke:
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