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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:22 PM
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Happy Birthday to The Mahatma
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi





Gandhi first employed his ideas of civil disobedience in the Indian struggle for civil rights in South Africa. Upon his return to India, Gandhi helped lead poor farmers and labourers to protest oppressive taxation and widespread discrimination. Leading the Indian National Congress, Gandhi worked for the alleviation of poverty, the liberation of women, brotherhood amongst diverse communities, an end to untouchability and caste discrimination and for the economic self-sufficiency of the nation. But Gandhi's work focused upon the goal of Swaraj — the independence of India. Gandhi famously led Indians in the disobedience of the salt tax through the 400 kilometre (248 miles) Dandi March in 1930, and in an open call for the British to Quit India in 1942.



Gandhi remained committed to non-violence and truth even in the most extreme situations. Gandhi was a student of Hindu philosophy and lived simply, organizing an ashram that was self-sufficient in its needs. He made his own clothes and lived on a simple vegetarian diet. He used rigorous fasts for self-purification as well as a means of protest. Gandhi's teachings have inspired civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Steve Biko, Nelson Mandela and Aung San Suu Kyi. Gandhi is honoured as the Father of the Nation in India and his birthday on October 2 is annually commemorated as Gandhi Jayanti, a national holiday.



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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:25 PM
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1. Om
I recommend Gandhi's autobiography, "The Story of My Experiments with Truth".

A great man.

Peace.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:28 PM
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2. when I was 5, my parents took me to the movies.
It was Ghandi. It shaped my life. Time to rent it and watch with my kids.
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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:21 AM
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3. A few relevant thoughts from the Mahatma:
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall — think of it, always."


"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?"


Just as true today as 70 years ago.

Another great teacher taken too soon. :cry:


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:25 AM
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4. ah. another from my pantheon of personal heroes. Ghandi, MLK,
JFK. Those were titans.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:55 AM
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5. a friend of mine walked the salt march last year. Not the original
One, but the commemeration of the original one that happened 75 years ago. The original one was one very brave act of nonviolence.

http://www.saltmarch.org.in/home.html
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:49 AM
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6. Peace
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 03:49 AM by Jack Rabbit
I can no more teach nonviolence to a coward than music to a deaf man.
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AmericanaAustraliana Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:05 AM
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7. A photo with Yogananda (1935)
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 07:37 AM by AmericanaAustraliana
Happy Birthday Sir.

Readers of Yogananda's Autobiography of a Yogi will remember this photo. Yogananda is reading a note that Gandhi handed to him on a day of silence in 1935. Yogananda initiated Gandhi in Kriya Yoga on this visit:



edited for ppl who can't see my sig
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:24 AM
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9. Happy Birthday to the Mahatma!
Here's something about Gandhi from the "Autobiogrphy of a Yogi":

The tiny 100−pound saint radiated physical, mental, and spiritual health. His soft brown eyes shone with intelligence, sincerity, and discrimination; this statesman has matched wits and emerged the victor in a thousand legal, social, and political battles. No other leader in the world has attained the secure niche in the hearts of his people that Gandhi occupies for India's unlettered millions. Their spontaneous tribute is his famous title−MAHATMA, “great soul.” For them alone Gandhi confines his attire to the widely−cartooned loincloth, symbol of his oneness with the downtrodden masses who can afford no more.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:44 AM
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10. Hi AmericanaAustraliana!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:08 AM
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8. The book I'm reding doesn't speak very highly of him...
"In the Land of Poverty"...I'm reading the part about the drive for independence in India, and apparently the author finds Ganhdi's alliance with and deference to the National Congress and the landlords of the rural areas to be quite distasteful, as it left so many still crushed under abject poverty... :shrug:
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Dakini23 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:06 AM
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11. Happy Birthday!
"Be the change you want to see in the world."
I am currently reading Gandhi's An Autobiography...The Story of my Experiments with Truth"
Inspiring!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:19 AM
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12. The myth is greater than the man
Personally, I think he may be the most overrated "pacifist" of the last 200 years. A classic example of "do as I say, not as I do." He was misogynistic, anti-semitic, and a garden-variety hypocrite, which is common among very public moralists.


From Richard Shenkman's Legends, Lies, and Myths of World History:

Gandhi, for starters, had some very strange beliefs. When he was older, he preached that a couple should have sex only three of four times in their lives - although he engaged in a lot of sex when he was younger. He liked to sleep in the nude with naked young women to test his vow of chastity - apparently, sleeping nude with his wife wasn't much of a test. History doesn't record what she thought of this, but I can imagine my wife having a few choice words to say about such a situation.

Speaking of his wife, she died when he refused to allow her to get life saving shot of penicillin after she contracted pneumonia. He was, you see, opposed to modern medicine. But not fanatically opposed, since after her death he allowed himself to be treated with quinine for his malaria and allowed his appendix to be removed by surgeons. Nice guy, huh?

There's a lot more, like the fact that he wasn't always the pacifist that he has been made out to be and his odd fascination for bowel movements - I'll spare you the details of that last one.


Ibid, and culled from The Gandhi Nobody Knows by Richard Grenier:

Gandhi the part-time pacifist:

Although Gandhi became famous for his pacifism, his beliefs here evolved considerably over the years. In fact, until the British massacred hundreds of peaceful Indians at Amritsar, Gandhi was such a faithful British subject that he served in the imperial army.

In the Boer War, Gandhi led the Natal Indian Ambulance Corps and, in one of those weird coincidences, was one of the three future world leaders at the Battle of Spioenkop, along with Winston Churchill and Louis Botha. For his good work, Gandhi eventually won the War Medal and was promoted to sergeant major.

Gandhi also volunteered to serve in World War I, one of the few Indian activists to support England unconditionally. A bad case of pleurisy prevented him from serving, and in fact forced him to leave England and return to India.

Gandhi and World War II:

Gandhi never quite seemed to realize that the non-violence he urged against the British would have failed horribly if applied to the Nazis. He urged the British to surrender, and suggested that the Czechs and even the Jews would have been better off committing heroic mass suicide.

Even as late as June 1946, when the extent of the Holocaust had emerged, Gandhi told biographer Louis Fisher: "The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher's knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs."

As the Japanese advanced into Burma (now called Myanmar), there was a real possibility of an Axis invasion of India. Gandhi thought it was best to let the Japanese take as much of India as they wanted, and that the best way to resist would be to "make them feel unwanted."

(In fact, the Axis was helping a buddy of Gandhi's to raise an army of Indians that would have seized the country from the Brits, but that's another story.)

Gandhi, family man:

He described his wife as looking like a "meek cow."

He refused to allow his sons to get a formal education, and also tried to force his oddball sexual ideas on them. He so disapproved of the wife of his eldest son that the Mahatma disowned him. This son broke from the family and became an alcoholic. In rebellion against everything his father stood for, Harilal Gandhi even announced at one point that he had converted to Islam.

The Mahatma also had trouble with his second son, Manilal, who had an affair with a married woman. Dad made the matter a public scandal and pushed the woman involved to shave her head. Manilal was also briefly exiled from the family for lending money to fellow black sheep Harilal.

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:07 PM
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13. This was the Happy Birthday thread

Every great person in history is a person. A person who is a product of their contemporary times. By definition, a human being is a fallible creature. But the nature of a person goes much deeper than the prejudices that are formed through a lifetime of growth.

There are many authors and biographers who have written about the man in starkly different terms that the author you have cited above. I am an Indian who enjoyed the result of Gandhi's efforts, and whose parents lived the history of the drive to independence.

Gandhi confronted a culture that had established one of the most classist systems in history. Today, India has one of the fastest growing middle classes in the world. When Gandhi fought for the underclass in India, he was going against an institutionalized social structure that was based on kingdoms and patronage.

So how does one measure a man? By the standards of Deity or the standards of mortality? Does a man's failure to achieve spiritual and moral perfection disqualify the positive contributions he has made?

I have never succeeded in understanding the motivations of those who would expend such great effort in tearing down a person's memory. I am not a scholar of Gandhian studies, but I worship the man. He is my hero, and my role model and my conscience. I would be hard pressed to understand why following Gandhi's teachings would be harmful in terms of my contribution to my fellow man.
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