Hokay, it's Rathergate all over again: "Foley emails altered."

[WilliamPitt]

http://passionateamerica.blogspot.com/2006/10/foleygate-mark-foley-emails-altered.html

[maxsolomon]

1. that font never existed on the internets!

:eyes:

keep spinning - there's no way to make this one look good.

[MissB]

8. Bwahahahahaha

:rofl: Good one.

[ck4829]

2. Let's nip this one early on

Because irrational and deluded people may just win (again).

[iconoclastic cat]

3. So, Rove wanted Foley to resign, just to shame some journalists?

Yeah, I buy it. Riiiiiiiight.

[file83]

37. For them to treat this like Rathergate just WEAKENS their Rathergate

conclusions. They know the information contained within the email is ACCURATE. They know Foley is guilty. So what that the formatting and a few minor details are different? It doesn't CHANGE ANYTHING.

Rather's memo was ACCURATE. There were just a few differences in the formatting. So are they now changing their conclusion to be that Bush was indeed dodging his military duty?

[RevCheesehead]

4. But he's already resigned, right?

WHy would an innocent person "resign"?

[elehhhhna]

29. because the truth is still not out and it's worse than what we've been

told so far, that's why.

[Beetwasher]

5. Nahh, Ignore It, The Guy Resigned Repubs Aren't Even Denying His Actions

So this is irrelevant, really.

[Nimrod2005]

14. And he took himself to rehab.....So in a way, he himself took the bait?

lol...

[CJCRANE]

6. Clutching at straws n/t

[wicket]

7. So he resigned anyway?

The emails were supposedly doctored but Foley resigned anyway? That dog don't hunt.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

9. OH MY GOD!!

PUNCTUATION CHANGES!!!

Well, it's obviously all fake then. :eyes:

[greyl]

10. The punctuation is different? Give me a break. nt

[AlCzervik]

11. I often resign after my emails are altered but thats just me.

what an idiotic story and another gop blogger trying to get 15 minutes of fame.

[elehhhhna]

30. lmao me too!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

12. Let me guess there was an alien in Foley's body when he apologized?

The alien, wearing a Foley suit, then made this statement: "I thank the people of Florida's 16th congressional district for giving me the opportunity to serve them for the last twelve years; it has been an honor. I am deeply sorry and I apologize for letting down my family and the people of Florida I have had the privilege to represent."

It then returned to the mother-ship (which is piloted by Democratic aliens) and flew away to planet Zeroing.

Sounds more plausible than he was guilty and he resigned, eh? :shrug:

[lapfog_1]

35. Personally, I believe that most repukes are Aliens

wearing "Edgar" suits... overgrown cockroaches every one of them... they love war and destruction
too.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

55. You know, I think that's an insult to cockroaches everywhere.

They are way better than most republicans.

[Nickster]

13. Interesting reading. They don't debate that Foley did it. They don't debat

that the Republican Leadership didn't handle it well. They are just furious that CREW held on to the messages for a few months? It's better to report everything you find out without any critical thinking?!

Yikes, can these people really change the focus from what happened and what was covered up by the GOP leadership to the speculation that the emails were somehow tampered with and held for max political damage?! Do they really think that Foley would have been exposed by anyone on his side of the aisle, ever?

[malaise]

24. Crew sent them to the FBI

Why didn't the FBI investigate? The GOP controls the FBI.

[Nickster]

26. Well, they are pissing and moaning that CREW had the messages for

months and did nothing with them at all. Didn't know that CREW was responsible for House Ethics, but OK I guess.

[kestrel91316]

40. Why would anyone want to engage in critical thinking????

"It's better to report everything you find out without any critical thinking?!"

[MichaelHarris]

15. Why

were you hiding?

"Update #5: Looks like the scum at Democratic Underground have found me. Get ready for left wing insanity."

Got some emails you want to hide?

GOP Page Service Auction Today:

Foley: "Oooooo I'll take the one with blue eyes"

Hastert: "Fondle um if you got um"

[gatorboy]

18. Get ready for left wing insanity?

You guys are waayyyy ahead of us! :rofl:

[MichaelHarris]

20. I saw that

as opposed to right-wing insanity over a blowjob?

[DaveJ]

16. Yeah so they've been retyped...

WTF does that prove? Funny how this guy says "I can't believe I even have to say this, but it seems some people (Liberals) are suggesting that I am trying to defend Foley." Oh how could we possibly think that? He's just using a totally irrational argument and irrelevant observations to make people think a pedophile in his own political party might really be innocent with no apparent concern for the victims involved, that's all.

:argh:

[ronnykmarshall]

17. File this under: Don't flatter yourself, honey.

Miss Thang is monitoring DU. Poor thing .... expects a big flood of comments. Don't hold your breath, dear.

Update #5: Looks like the scum at Democratic Underground have found me. Get ready for left wing insanity.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

21. Miss Thang has figured out that...

An infestation of us "scum", or at least the announcement thereof, might up her hitcounts. Attract fellow shugyo warriors of the right or something.

She flatters herself. To the point of measurable delusion.

[polmaven]

19. Why is it blank?

Am I supposed to do something to read the article? I see the big headline, and then a blank page.

I exited and went into the web site on my own, and saw the full entry for today, and then the headline you linked, and again a blank field under it!!!!!

[donco6]

22. It's very slow. You may have to wait a while. eom

[polmaven]

44. I waited for an hour.

It probably isn't that slow, right?

It's really strange...I get the full text for an entry made today, but not the one Will linked.....:shrug:

[IChing]

23. #5 " Looks like the scum at Democratic Underground have found me"

Update #5: Looks like the scum at Democratic Underground have found me. Get ready for left wing insanity.
from the site


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[RobertSeattle]

28. OK Everbody --- T-Y--P-E S-L-O-W so the right wingers can understand

Worst Congress Ever

[robertpaulsen]

25. I knew it! Rove planted it! It's the October Surprise! BWAHAHA!

Whoa, what cunning investigative journalism! Looks like littlegreenfootballs and Matt Drudge has some competition!

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

[originalpckelly]

27. Did the President resign after the Rather memos were released?

NO. An innocent person doesn't resign, do they now?

[helderheid]

31. tee hee

Update #5: Looks like the scum at Democratic Underground have found me. Get ready for left wing insanity.

[RobertSeattle]

32. Way to go "Dan" in the comments

Nah, that's not the case, Bill.

The DUmmies are straight on with their analysis of your actions here. You're obfuscating and trying to draw attention away from the issue at hand - one of our esteemed delegates to the National arena is a pedophile who abused his position of power to engage in what amounts to disgusting activity.

Your whole "foleygate" schtick is a bunch of bullshit. The tiny discrepancies you "found" will amount to nothihg, and you'll be very, very embarassed when you're proven 100% wrong.

Drop it now, and save yourself and the rest of us this embarassmen.
Dan | 10.02.06 - 3:29 pm | #

[Debi]

33. So somebody retyped the emails to say the exact same thing as the

originals? Does that somehow exonerate the guy from being a pedophile or the GOP leadership for covering up a pedophiles activities? WTF?

[americanstranger]

34. Aww. He deleted my comment...

All I wrote was this:

HAHAHAHA!

Comedy Gold.

Moron.

Truth hurts, I guess.

- as

[tsuki]

36. Would a rather be scum or a moran? hmmmmm...definately

scum. At least, I have the brains to understand that this is about the betrayal of trust. Trust us to keep your children safe, say the Republicans. Since 2001, they have known about this. The Republicans cannot be trusted to keep the Congressional Pages safe, and they claim they can keep the country safe. So, I'm supposed to trust them?

[calimary]

38. What'd they do, put "Buckhead" on it?

I think the damage has been done. We'll see, of course. The legendary fat lady hasn't sung yet, but the fat "Foley Artist" certainly has (hastert):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2859867

BTW - I LOVE that "Update #5" - "looks like the scum at the Democratic Underground have found me"!

Yes, my "friend." We HAVE. And as far as the "scum" part, I guess it takes one to know one! Let the games begin.

:toast:

[Dammit Ann]

39. wow.

who IS THAT idiot? he just reminded me why a hate conservatives so intensely.

THE DAMMIT CHRONICLES

[Blue Diadem]

41. Amazing how they go to any extent to defend the pervert

DUH..the guy resigned..doesn't that tell them something?

[Warren DeMontague]

42. Someone fucked with the punctuation! This is HUGH!

Im SERIES!

[SoCalDem]

49. Alert the spocksman..... Check to see if we are being stocked

:)

[Warren DeMontague]

43. Hey! "Wild Bill" has a radio show!

Looks like he's about to puke on the microphone.
Vitamin B and lots of water, Bill. Best thing.

[sendero]

57. He looks like..

... he's trying to expell the corncob from his ass.

[SiouxJ]

45. I'm thinking the emails are probably just the tip of the iceberg

or he wouldn't have resigned so quickly.

[NashVegas]

46. What a Hoot!

The question isn’t whether or not Foley is a lowlife pervert who belongs in jail. He does. The question isn’t whether the House leadership did a good enough job with the Foley case when it came to their attention. They probably didn’t.

The real question is if CREW sat on these emails for months with the knowledge that children were at risk on the Hill thanks to stalker Foley. And if CREW knew, why release the raunchy IM now?

I forget which blog that came from. I think it came from the Nuthouse (appropriate name).

Denial, children, is fun.

[Warren DeMontague]

47. News Flash: Foley asked a 16 year old boy to measure his dick for him.

Kid, America doesn't get much more "passionate" than that! :crazy:

[LSK]

48. so if he didnt do anything, WHY DID HE RESIGN????

[Rockstone]

54. exactly

[Imagevision]

50. Pelosi needs to pull Foley out of rehab to testify under oath, then he

go on with his charade...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

51. YES YOUR HONOR, I DID CONFESS TO THE COPS I KILLED MY WIFE!

But I said "damn right I killed the bitch" and they just claimed I said "damn right I killed that bitch". I DEMAND this case be thrown out of court!

[Catchawave]

52. I'll check back at AP/NYT/WaPo links

:hi:

[savemefromdumbya]

53. but where does Gannon fit into all this?

[BuyingThyme]

56. Come on, Pitt.

You don't think Puke bloggers yet know about grammar check, do you? And don't even talk about ellipsis.

[GeorgeGist]

58. Passionate America...

the irony is delicious.

[blogslut]

59. As I tried to relay before

We are not positive that the IM software Foley used was indeed AIM. It could have been Yahoo or MSN - programs that automatically collect a history file. The way to prove authenticity with those programs would be to open the application and click the particular history of the particular contact/IM Buddy.

As for AOL chat history, apparently AIM doesn't do history logging. Therefore, the most common method to save AIM chats would be to copy/paste into a text editor or word processing software and save. Those type files can be altered after the fact, however, the original dates of their creation - not so easy to spoof. As well, there are many software programs - easily available over the web - that can save AIM history files automatically. In theory, one could prove the authenticity of the IMs by opening such a program and displaying a saved history log from a particular contact/IM Buddy. Another way to prove authenticity would be to save screen captures of the actual AIM chat windows.

What gets lost in this (coming) RW debunking of the IMs is that, more than one page saved these IMs for three years. Obviously they thought the messages from Foley were signifigant enough to protect for prosperity: Saved through hard drive crashes and formats. Saved through file corruptions, viruses and spyware installs.

ON EDIT: I see these were emails. I would imagine that CREW has the original hard copy from the page. If they were re-typed that doesn't mean anything because those emails can be retrieved from the page's server and probably cross-checked on Foley's email account.